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[KingStannis]

I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were).

I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.

Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.

Thanks you two for the insight! I was worried maybe I didn't have my salary high enough in my profile. And RanManCan, ASU girls in Phoenix have become harder to come by, more competitive to attract, and more expensive unfortunately.

[RanManCan]

Scammer link update on 1/16/23. Appears she deletes and makes new accounts a lot.

PrettySocialite.

And a new profile. . . https://members.seeking.com/member/3...b-3fda96819987.

[FarFarAway]

Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.

People complain about the misses, publicly. If they have hits, they keep quiet or keep them to themselves. Some here have been known to criticize others for 'bragging'.

I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). The lowest adjective, though, I think it was 'practical', it was something like 2000/ mo, so it was pretty divorced from reality. It contributed to GPS for sure, and just made girls disappointed. I'm sure you have read profiles where she complains guys weren't 'real SDs' - I think that is what they mean.

And IK quite a few girls I made contact here who relocated to the PHX area, I wish I had access to them.

[RanManCan]

Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.

I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.

Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.

[KingStannis]

I don't think that's it. I have one photo with face blurred, and I'm getting very good results. I have more than I can handle at the moment, they're all wondering why I'm so busy all the time.

If you like, PM me your opening messages and I'll give a critique.

Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.

[HollywoodGuy]

I respectfully disagree.

I only do PPMs on SA. Never arrangements, because of my personal life.

But that doesn't mean I want an escort. I really do want to bang the girl next door who just needs a little financial boost. I don't want to bang the girl who has made it a profession.

I don't think they are the same thing just because money is exchanged for sex.

They aren't the same by a long shot. Just very difficult to find. But not impossible. Or find the girl that has just decided to go the pro route and you just happen to be the first in line. It happens.

[Murrican]

Good man.

You're another person I wish I could grab a beer with.

No no, he wasn't implying that is you, he was implying that is me.

I can say I definitely don't view myself as this 'white knight', and the whole tone of that post to me fits into one mindset you see on here sometime. Guys who are pretty disrespectful of the women they are banging, and the guys who post here don't follow their world-view, and prescriptions. I have a theory about those who cannot distinguish a SB from an escort or even a SW. I wonder if they've ever had a real relationship w / a woman. A GF, a wife, whatever. If their only experience ever has been that they have to pay for sex, I can see how a SB wouldn't look too different from a girl on the stroll. I've been married twice and have had a lot of relationships (I am retirement age), and a lot of pretty good sex. I can say that some of the best sex of my life has come since I've joined SA. The fact is, it is easier to find someone with whom you are very sexually compatible (and don't have to worry about the rest) that it is to find someone who you are going to have a committed relationship with, with all of the components.

I saw a 27 year old for many many months coming out of the pandemic. She relocated for a job. We had a great relationship generally and amazing sex. She visits her parents back in this area now and then. We get together because we simply cannot keep our hands off one another. We still have smoking hot sex just like we were when she was my regular. She decries any and all of the men she is currently considering, either regular or sugar dating, and specifically says I treat her better than anyone ever has. And that doesn't have anything to do with $. Where did I learn this? Two marriages. Like anyone I spend time with who I care about, I enjoy providing treats that IK she values. This was and is a relationship w / emotional, physical, and intellectual components. I would never have gotten to develop all that w / her if I hadn't been providing sugar, of course. She is still very grateful for the funds I provided, which helped her move to her new job. We'll always be significant to one another. I have GFs from my single days between my marriages, when they have gotten divorced, they always seem to contact me (through professional channels like LinkedIn) to 'see what I am up to these days'.

My only attitude / approach that endears me to women is that I treat them nicely and with respect and consideration, and I genuinely receive pleasure from giving to them. If that isn't one of your strengths, you'll have to take a different approach. I have no doubt there are some great 'swordsmen' on seeking who are doing great b / c they are really good looking and they have skills as pick-up artists. I wish I learned about arrangements (and that seeking.com had existed) when I was in my 40's. I have been an active SD since 2016.

[MiamiHeat2020]

There is no set answer to this. It depends on how hot the girl is. I find though that if you tell them while messaging "If you are okay with an allowance of xyz then we should continue to plan on meeting up. " If they tell you this is way too low, or ignore it means that they want a lot. In general 400-600 should get you good quality for girls this age. Hope this helps.

Got it, thank you!

[StudBucket]

I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.

I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.

All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.

Murrican, settle down. My response, if you would have read, was directed in reply to member Far Far Away's comment to my post. In fact his comment is posted above my reply. I am actually in agreement with you. So, please apologize, LOL. But, in all seriousness, no it was not a comment meant for you. We are on the same page.

[FarFarAway]

I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.

I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.

All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.

No no, he wasn't implying that is you, he was implying that is me.

I can say I definitely don't view myself as this 'white knight', and the whole tone of that post to me fits into one mindset you see on here sometime. Guys who are pretty disrespectful of the women they are banging, and the guys who post here don't follow their world-view, and prescriptions. I have a theory about those who cannot distinguish a SB from an escort or even a SW. I wonder if they've ever had a real relationship w / a woman. A GF, a wife, whatever. If their only experience ever has been that they have to pay for sex, I can see how a SB wouldn't look too different from a girl on the stroll. I've been married twice and have had a lot of relationships (I am retirement age), and a lot of pretty good sex. I can say that some of the best sex of my life has come since I've joined SA. The fact is, it is easier to find someone with whom you are very sexually compatible (and don't have to worry about the rest) that it is to find someone who you are going to have a committed relationship with, with all of the components.

I saw a 27 year old for many many months coming out of the pandemic. She relocated for a job. We had a great relationship generally and amazing sex. She visits her parents back in this area now and then. We get together because we simply cannot keep our hands off one another. We still have smoking hot sex just like we were when she was my regular. She decries any and all of the men she is currently considering, either regular or sugar dating, and specifically says I treat her better than anyone ever has. And that doesn't have anything to do with $. Where did I learn this? Two marriages. Like anyone I spend time with who I care about, I enjoy providing treats that IK she values. This was and is a relationship w / emotional, physical, and intellectual components. I would never have gotten to develop all that w / her if I hadn't been providing sugar, of course. She is still very grateful for the funds I provided, which helped her move to her new job. We'll always be significant to one another. I have GFs from my single days between my marriages, when they have gotten divorced, they always seem to contact me (through professional channels like LinkedIn) to 'see what I am up to these days'.

My only attitude / approach that endears me to women is that I treat them nicely and with respect and consideration, and I genuinely receive pleasure from giving to them. If that isn't one of your strengths, you'll have to take a different approach. I have no doubt there are some great 'swordsmen' on seeking who are doing great b / c they are really good looking and they have skills as pick-up artists. I wish I learned about arrangements (and that seeking.com had existed) when I was in my 40's. I have been an active SD since 2016.

[Vncnt]

So I tried SecretBenefits the past few weeks to see what the alternatives were to SA and it was 98% trash. Most of the received emails were generic prompts and never replied and the secret pics weren't worth unlocking either. I talked to one on there and it was interesting, to say the least sure. She was escorting but tried to mask it. I dint really care just could have been real about it. Finally got fed up and requested a refund. It was given immediately, something tells me they know the site is set up dishonestly.

[Ajfff]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-624eabe0c101

Thanks for posting this, keep watching out for her. I had my worst scam / threat / rob ever from her A month ago and freaked the fuck out. Couldn't find more to post and glad someone else is warning. Plaster her pic everywhere Far beyond just a scam.

[Spector888]

Scammer link update on 1/16/23. Appears she deletes and makes new accounts a lot.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-624eabe0c101

[Murrican]

I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.

I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.

All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.

I do not know what you are thinking but you do what works for you and continue to believe you are some White Knight rescuing these sugar babies and that they like you for your and are not in it for the money perhaps? Agreeing to have sex for money is all what websites like Seeking, Whats your Price, is all about. You have to be kidding yourself if you believe these girls are in it for free to meet nice older guys like us.

[FarFarAway]

I do not know what you are thinking but you do what works for you and continue to believe you are some White Knight rescuing these sugar babies and that they like you for your and are not in it for the money perhaps? Agreeing to have sex for money is all what websites like Seeking, Whats your Price, is all about. You have to be kidding yourself if you believe these girls are in it for free to meet nice older guys like us.

What I meant was that after you get the girls number and build repoire, then I get their number and take the conversation off line via phone and text. Eventually the cost comes up for how much the allowance will be whether it be per date or monthly / weekly. I would never get into a monthly allowance right off the bat though until I know I have a chemistry and I like the girl a lot. Using my method has prevented me from getting quoted a super high price if you merely ask them what they need. Many of the girls on the site do this part time and have regular jobs, and are okay initally with PPM and I am not getting escort pricing. I am getting long dates for these amounts. You are way overthinking this sorry.

Mischaracterizes prior testimony.

I never said that. However, I have had long-term arrangements w / girls 30+ years my junior at small money, and they hung around me for multiple reasons, obviously not just the $. IK other people (not in CA) who have basically used SA to find long-term affairs w / girls 20+ their junior. Much is possible on the site.

Of course, I always have the first FC be rather specific in terms of what the activities will be and what the sugar will be. But if you at least talk to a girl about what a monthly allowance would be like, you make her feel better about it being not just sex-for-hire, rather a 'relationship' - mutually beneficial to be sure, but still, not just an escort. There are many girls who really want this for their own conscience, but of course they are also looking to get their own rocks off, whatever that means to them. Often, there is a fantasy in a POT about being w / a much older guy, either because he is experienced and will give them a peak sexual experience, something they've never gotten from boys they have dated, or because they are submissive and want someone who knows how to play that way. Fine, playing into a girl's kinks is a way for me to get quality pussy at a lower price point.

I never never never negotiate $ by text, only face to face. People are very brave typing into a keyboard. Just look at a site like this. Lots of flaming. In person, people don't want to be rejected, and if you have met someone, they are already invested somewhat in the interaction and are not as likely to ask crazy #s. If I can't get a girl to do that, if she demands to tell me what her allowance is by e-messaging, she is likely wanting to be a kept woman at 3 K / mo or greater, I can't hide that much $ from my SO anyway, so I can ghost and cut my losses.

I definitely am not overthinking this. I have had amazing women from seeking, I have posted some of their photos recently on the Richmond thread, I challenge you to show me you've done better with your approach, and I definitely have given them less $ than you could expect to pay for a top-notch escort. My goal in life is to nail as much high-quality pussy as I can, and that means looks, skills, and definitely not available just to anyone who has a big wallet. I am living the dream on SA.