General Reports

**AceHole247** · 10-26-16 15:01

I just posted on a different section here and then found this post. But my question is do any of you get unsolicited calls / texts from a provider you've never met or even called?? I was a little desperate so I planned on seeing her. When I got to the hotel I panicked and left. Just didn't seem right? (not like any of it is. LOL) All I keep thinking is it was a setup!! Since then I tried looking her up and only had 3 posts. 1 last month and again this month 2 xs. Justnot enough in my opinion. Anyone else see this??

Thanks.

**StanleyStankas** · 10-26-16 12:57

Originally Posted by OFCharlie [View Original Post]

There is no okay system with RS-AVS. The closest is TER whitelist, but it's not popular now that P411 is pretty much widely used nationally.

As for blacklist site, there are a couple. Some use this one.

http://www.nationalblacklist.com/

Be aware that the provider can say anything they want about a person's name and / or phone number and from my experience the info stands no matter. A high end pro that I befriended (her only real friend) decided to completely trash my real name and phone number as she had all of that. I had certain details about her real life, however would never go there even though tricks, x bf's, competitors alike would hire private detectives to dig into her real info! Yep, that happened as I witnessed it with her on a one on one basis and saw the proof! Anyway when I broke off the friendship she lost it and was posting crazy info about me and my company! All of which was bs she was just pissed and wanted revenge! I am telling my story just so mongers know that once info about one is on the black list site mentioned here it is there to stay! Any others with real experience please enlighten me to your facts as well. Tx. Oh BTW- the girl I mentioned here and I were friends and I never once tried to score w / her for money or otherwise.

**OngBak15** · 10-26-16 12:35

For some reason I can never find out when we are having our next meet up. It was brought up and it seems far.

**OF Charlie** · 10-24-16 13:36

Originally Posted by DaddyOne23 [View Original Post]

Does anyone know if RS-AVS (RS2 k) provide this "okay" rating for mongers? I was with a lady a couple of weeks ago and she mentioned that they have a way of knowing who problem people are. It sounded like a blacklist to me, but maybe it is a rating system like Uber? Just curious.

Also with P411, is one verification method a sponsorship with a known provider? I know chicken / egg. But that could be a way to not provide personal info for someone like me who got RS2 k a long ass time ago.

There is no okay system with RS-AVS. The closest is TER whitelist, but it's not popular now that P411 is pretty much widely used nationally.

As for blacklist site, there are a couple. Some use this one.

http://www.nationalblacklist.com/

**Member #5589** · 10-24-16 12:21

Originally Posted by DaddyOne23 [View Original Post]

Also with P411, is one verification method a sponsorship with a known provider? I know chicken / egg. But that could be a way to not provide personal info for someone like me who got RS2 k a long ass time ago.

It is a little bit of a chicken-and-egg situation. As I recall, I saw a P411 provider who was willing to accept zero "okays," and then got her "okay" afterwards. Then, I saw another and another, adding to my "okay" count.

Now, just be aware that not all P411 providers will accept a guy based solely on a P411 membership even with multiple "okays. " But, that's an acceptable downside for me, because any service that stores "real" client info is just one hack away from national headlines with your name in the articles.

**DaddyOne23** · 10-24-16 11:53

Originally Posted by OlderChap [View Original Post]

P411 can be used without giving out any "real" info. You are asked to provide four digits of a piece of identification that you would show a provider, but that could be anything in your wallet. Only one time was I ever asked to show the I'd with the P411-linked four digits; the lady just glanced at it a second.

The real value of P411, in my opinion, is when you've got a number of "okays" from providers you've seen, which then would provide some assurance of okay-ness to the next lady you contact through them.

Does anyone know if RS-AVS (RS2 k) provide this "okay" rating for mongers? I was with a lady a couple of weeks ago and she mentioned that they have a way of knowing who problem people are. It sounded like a blacklist to me, but maybe it is a rating system like Uber? Just curious.

Also with P411, is one verification method a sponsorship with a known provider? I know chicken / egg. But that could be a way to not provide personal info for someone like me who got RS2 k a long ass time ago.

**Member #5589** · 10-24-16 10:55

Originally Posted by CouchCouscous [View Original Post]

Trying to research screening sites to access providers who offer a safer, cleaner and personal session. Saw preferred p411, but was hoping there was a link to a newbie FAQs to get me acquainted with my options. Not really thrilled with the prospect of putting my actual identity out there. Any thoughts?

P411 can be used without giving out any "real" info. You are asked to provide four digits of a piece of identification that you would show a provider, but that could be anything in your wallet. Only one time was I ever asked to show the I'd with the P411-linked four digits; the lady just glanced at it a second.

The real value of P411, in my opinion, is when you've got a number of "okays" from providers you've seen, which then would provide some assurance of okay-ness to the next lady you contact through them.

**Ron M** · 10-24-16 10:32

Originally Posted by CouchCouscous [View Original Post]

Trying to research screening sites to access providers who offer a safer, cleaner and personal session. Saw preferred p411, but was hoping there was a link to a newbie FAQs to get me acquainted with my options. Not really thrilled with the prospect of putting my actual identity out there. Any thoughts?

I've never used any screening site to see a provider. There are plenty of providers that don't require you to use a screening site to see them. If you want to use a screening site I guess you could use a fake name and info so you don't put yourself in a compromising situation in case something goes south.

**CouchCouscous** · 10-24-16 09:28

Trying to research screening sites to access providers who offer a safer, cleaner and personal session. Saw preferred p411, but was hoping there was a link to a newbie FAQs to get me acquainted with my options. Not really thrilled with the prospect of putting my actual identity out there. Any thoughts?

**Castlerae** · 10-23-16 19:52

Originally Posted by Bob521 [View Original Post]

My fault for not saying. There were four choices. Visa, Paypal, and two others, I don't recall. I guess money order was one, but I did not notice. Sorry. Bob.

Not a problem, Bob. I was just thinking of the guys who might need to keep their credit card statements extra-clean. Of course, getting it delivered without leaving a trace for a nosey SO to catch onto is another problem.

**Bob521** · 10-23-16 00:54

My fault for not saying. There were four choices. Visa, Paypal, and two others, I don't recall. I guess money order was one, but I did not notice. Sorry. Bob.

Originally Posted by Castlerae [View Original Post]

A few years back, I ordered some V from them to see if it would help me get hard again faster. At that time, they offered several options for payment, including money order. Not sure if I'll ever order any more (so-so results on the experiment), but the anonymity and complete disconnect from my credit card a money order offers sure is nice.

**Castlerae** · 10-22-16 20:10

Originally Posted by Bob521 [View Original Post]

I know there's a dedicated thread, but this answers the previous questions. It's exactly as I said below. I just placed an order 40 pills + 40 "free" for $58. Shipping is flat rate express for $25. About 5-10 days I recall. You chose the payment option (Visa is the first choice). They email the "invoice" and you then pay using the email buttons.

A few years back, I ordered some V from them to see if it would help me get hard again faster. At that time, they offered several options for payment, including money order. Not sure if I'll ever order any more (so-so results on the experiment), but the anonymity and complete disconnect from my credit card a money order offers sure is nice.

**Bob521** · 10-22-16 11:53

I know there's a dedicated thread, but this answers the previous questions. It's exactly as I said below. I just placed an order 40 pills + 40 "free" for $58. Shipping is flat rate express for $25. About 5-10 days I recall. You chose the payment option (Visa is the first choice). They email the "invoice" and you then pay using the email buttons.

Originally Posted by Bob521 [View Original Post]

Yep. Paid each time with visa. Its been a few months (my last order was 80 V and 24 C- or about 184 doses). But as I recall, the credit card is a two step process. They send you an email that use use to pay the credit card. Its not like checking out with Amazon. Just follow the instructions. I agree I would not release any banking information. Bob.

**Bob521** · 10-20-16 21:42

Yep. Paid each time with visa. Its been a few months (my last order was 80 V and 24 C- or about 184 doses). But as I recall, the credit card is a two step process. They send you an email that use use to pay the credit card. Its not like checking out with Amazon. Just follow the instructions. I agree I would not release any banking information. Bob.

Originally Posted by Nidhogg69 [View Original Post]

You can pay with CC? I only see options where they want bank routing numbers or echecks. Nothing for Visa or any other credit card. Kind of not keen to have them have access to actual checkign account and routing information.

**Castlerae** · 10-20-16 20:46

Originally Posted by SamSpade [View Original Post]

Also, I work for a supplier to a pharma company. As part of our agreement, we have to have the same training as employees of that pharma. One of the training classes we take has to do with counterfeit drugs, and includes a great shot of a busted counterfeit company out of India. They were using house paint to make it Blue for you.

Damn, I guess that's another way you can get some "lead in your pencil", LOL!