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  1. #4460
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    Posts: 1921

    Mostly agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Viger99  [View Original Post]
    Anything is possible but it is very likely they will keep the client list under wrap because of potential legal liability. Some of the names and identities may be borrowed by other people and having the names in public may cause real personal, family, financial, business and professional damages which would lead to backlash and lawsuits. The Maine Zumba case was very unique. There were actual video recording and other evidences. About half of the reported 100 to 150 clients were charged including mayor, minister, firefighter and coach. That incident was 10 years ago and there has not been another case like that since.

    Anything is possible but it is very unlikely they will go after everyone on the client list. It is going to take resources they don't have. Sexual conduct for a fee is a low priority enforcement item unless it causes public quality of life issues or complains. There just have not been that many stings and other enforcement actions in the recent past. They do it to squash down on the activity and in this case they have been very successful. It has been on local and national news very prominently. What would be the additional policy benefits of pursuing clients on the list? They will never say they would not pursue any client list. There are some people in the population who take the extreme position that sex work always involve human trafficking..
    But it's important to remember that there are a variety of factors at play for each individual client, and not everyone is (yet) out of the woods. Risks remain for some, as I've posted about here:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6673266

    And here:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6679747

    All of which is simply to say that there's a balance between unwarranted worry, and a false sense of complacency, that every client will need to assess for themselves. For everyone not directly involved, hopefully this serves as a reminder about the risks of the hobby, esp when it comes to divulging personal info.

  2. #4459

    This too shall pass

    Anything is possible but it is very likely they will keep the client list under wrap because of potential legal liability. Some of the names and identities may be borrowed by other people and having the names in public may cause real personal, family, financial, business and professional damages which would lead to backlash and lawsuits. The Maine Zumba case was very unique. There were actual video recording and other evidences. About half of the reported 100 to 150 clients were charged including mayor, minister, firefighter and coach. That incident was 10 years ago and there has not been another case like that since.

    Anything is possible but it is very unlikely they will go after everyone on the client list. It is going to take resources they don't have. Sexual conduct for a fee is a low priority enforcement item unless it causes public quality of life issues or complains. There just have not been that many stings and other enforcement actions in the recent past. They do it to squash down on the activity and in this case they have been very successful. It has been on local and national news very prominently. What would be the additional policy benefits of pursuing clients on the list? They will never say they would not pursue any client list. There are some people in the population who take the extreme position that sex work always involve human trafficking.

    The BTT bust is another bust that happens from time to time. This too shall pass and others will rise up to meet demand which is not going away. Demand from every profession including our bros in LE. Back in the summer XOC was busted and there has not been any going after the clients. XOC was a much larger and better organized operation. The HSI affidavit on BTT listed 3 units in the same building and some very explicit texts which are probably not the best current practices in this line of business in my opinion.

  3. #4458

    Kora's back! In NYC

    I'm going to make the drive up to see her!! Maybe convince her to visit us here again.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetDog  [View Original Post]
    I think BonerA posted Kora's real pics a couple years ago. They are still up. She was Seowoo / Bluestar / Suzy / Maya etc.

    If you want to see her real pics: (click here).
    I just found some more real pics of here too. I'm unable to attach the images like BonerA did, maybe someone can assist.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210506...lists.com/suzi

  4. #4457

    World's stupidest criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    My point about political pressure is simply that, once a high-profile case has gone public, the ability of politicians to exert influence or pressure is greatly diminished. I wasn't making any point about the origin of the case.
    These idiots were depositing LARGE quantities of CASH into their personal bank accounts and making money orders with the cash, read the affidavit. Not to mention, keeping everyone's personal information, is just the icing for a huge newsworthy story. Clearly, very low hanging fruit for the feds to grab.

  5. #4456

    How do you know that?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLuciano00  [View Original Post]
    I miss BO. They had some nice J Girls but they'll be back. MP got busted a while back and they came back. They're just laying low for a bit. They're going to see that the K shops are back in business and they won't want to miss out.
    How do you know that? When they get busted?

  6. #4455
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1921

    Not sure if you were responding to my post or to another

    Quote Originally Posted by JacobsPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Doubt it was any political pressure. My guess is that the confidental source gave agents the EASY keys to kgirl castle (for an immigration deal) and those three asshatdumbassses let them in, read the affidavit.
    My point about political pressure is simply that, once a high-profile case has gone public, the ability of politicians to exert influence or pressure is greatly diminished. I wasn't making any point about the origin of the case.

  7. #4454
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1921

    Link?

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyDawson  [View Original Post]
    There is a criminal complaint. Which I didn't see in previous versions of the affidavit. A Fairfax defense attorney also did a writeup on the case.
    So far most of the legal action has happening in MA. With the intense media focus on this case, there should be something in news reports if a criminal complaint has been filed. Of course, the initial arrests would have been supported by a criminal complaint, so maybe that's what the Fairfax atty is talking about. And, if that's the case, those complaints would contain info substantially similar to what's in the search warrant affidavit.

    But that won't be the final charging document, rather it's a placeholder until the actual indictment is handed down. And I continue to think that what's currently happening is that the evidence obtained in the searches is being evaluated to produce the strongest possible indictment. And, even once the initial indictment is handed down, that isn't necessarily the final word. The prosecution can file superseding indictments if they find more evidence.

    Edit: I just went back and scanned thru the publicly released affidavit and it appears to my non-lawyer eye that the same document was used to support both the arrests and the search.

  8. #4453

    Bunny at HT

    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Anyone want to test this chick? LOL.
    Met her back in Dec 18' when HT was in that popular Mosaic building.

    Skinny / slender / sexy MILF with great attitude and performance.

    I might repeat if find time!

  9. #4452

    Bunny happy

    Quote Originally Posted by DCHung  [View Original Post]
    Blast from the past http://www.happytogetherva.com/.
    Anyone want to test this chick? LOL.

  10. #4451
    Quote Originally Posted by JacobsPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Doubt it was any political pressure. My guess is that the confidental source gave agents the EASY keys to kgirl castle (for an immigration deal) and those three asshatdumbassses let them in, read the affidavit.
    Search terminal, only one to be stopped and questioned. My guess of Csource. Around spring.

  11. #4450

    Doubt it was any political pressure

    Doubt it was any political pressure. My guess is that the confidental source gave agents the EASY keys to kgirl castle (for an immigration deal) and those three asshatdumbassses let them in, read the affidavit.

  12. #4449

    I knew the pictures looked familiar

    Quote Originally Posted by DCHung  [View Original Post]
    Blast from the past http://www.happytogetherva.com/.
    Do you know what name she used to go by?

    I asked HT if she had been in the area before but they said that this was her first time in VA. She was probably with a different booker but just can't remember where.

  13. #4448
    Quote Originally Posted by MrFairfax  [View Original Post]
    Why'all feel comfortable going to the remaining K-shops right now?

    Even the C-orgs (jgirls) have disappeared. I haven't had any Kgirls in what feels like forever. In reality its been like 2 weeks but now I am CRAVING something.

    What to do, what to do. Honestly about to pack up the car and head to NYC or Philly for the weekend to partake, but even getting a bit wary of those cities. I feel like big brother LEO is watching everyone right now, shit man.
    Fucking BEG!! Imagine how smart you have to be to set up shop in the same place where BL got busted? Complete morons! BEG never appealed to me and thank God I never verified with those idiots. Thanks to those shitheads getting busted, I missed out on repeating with Nelly from BO AND got my appointment cancelled with Daphne from DS.

    Anyways, I hope mongers visit the remaining K shops. It'll show them that business is back to normal and they can continue bringing in the babes. The current line up isn't my cup of tea but if they bring in somebody I like, I'll visit them in a heartbeat. Yeah, I know, I'm dying too. I miss BO. They had some nice J Girls but they'll be back. MP got busted a while back and they came back. They're just laying low for a bit. They're going to see that the K shops are back in business and they won't want to miss out.

    I sound like I'm trying to reassure myself, LOL.

  14. 11-16-23 23:42


  15. #4447

    Current Climate

    Why'all feel comfortable going to the remaining K-shops right now?

    Even the C-orgs (jgirls) have disappeared. I haven't had any Kgirls in what feels like forever. In reality its been like 2 weeks but now I am CRAVING something.

    What to do, what to do. Honestly about to pack up the car and head to NYC or Philly for the weekend to partake, but even getting a bit wary of those cities. I feel like big brother LEO is watching everyone right now, shit man.

  16. #4446
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1921

    Political influence, prosecutorial discretion, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    MA Governor is a White Dem female, MA AG is a Black Dem female, Boston Mayor is an AsianTaiwanese Dem female, Cambridge Mayor is a MuslimPakistani Dem female. Only relevant male is the United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, and he took over his predecessor (another Dem female)'s role due to her abuse of power. This guy has been nominated by the Dem pro-feminist POTUS, but his nomination is still "pending before the Senate Judiciary Committee". MA's fucked up! BTW, what happened to Hana's Frenchies? Anyone?
    It's certainly true that external pressures can be brought to bear in any criminal matter. But I would argue that the best way for pressure to be successful is to keep the case in question from ever seeing the light of day. With as many public disclosures (documents, press conferences, etc.) and as much media attention as we've seen in this case, it takes on a life of its own. This horse is not only out of the barn, but it's running strong and likely won't stop until it finishes the course.

    Also, any politician who is viewed as trying to put their thumb on the scale, or influence / interfere in any way, is risking severe political damage and possibly political suicide. And if the acting US Attorney's nomination is still pending before the (Republican majority) Senate Judiciary Committee, then he has a vested interest in vigorously pursuing this prosecution. If that's indeed the case, then whatever the various state and local politicians want is unlikely to have much (if any) effect.

    From what I've seen online, the next developments in the case are a Nov 22nd detention hearing for the two defendants arrested in MA, and the extradition process (from CA to MA) for the defendant arrested in CA. And sometime soon we should see the actual indictment. From all indications, it should happen in MA. But it could also happen in VA, which would be an interesting curveball.

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