The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[AshWink]

It's a solid thought. I tend to be more relationship driven with SA. I also let my guard down way more when doing SA M&G's. I guess I can't really do that anymore, with the way these two worlds are colliding. I also think it's amazing that a couple times I've really thought I've been talking to this well-put-together, top shelf college coed and what showed up was a complete junkie 304. Some of these girls are extremely proficient liars.

Any suggestions what not to say / ask during M&Gs?

That's where I've discussed allowances in the past, and haven't attempted anything since the new law.

[Biscuits1234]

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...73389478&nsp=1
https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-ebf7aebb77d6

Had a M&G, scheduled a first date, but suddenly asked for $1. 3 k all of a sudden the day before the date (way more than and in addition to the 400 agreed upon). Obviously I didn't pay, she still set up the appointment, then I got ghosted and blocked at the last minute. Scammer; don't believe her sob stories. Avoid.

She's on SB as well (I connected with her there): https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...db0f47b93933d0.

Just started talking to her. From what I can tell she is very real, but very new to this. I get timid vibes of desperation from the way she talks. Like this sugar dating thing is a last resort for her. Might be reading too deep.

I haven't set anything up with her yet as she supposedly went to bed shortly after connecting. Will follow up when / if this progresses anywhere.

[jobobtheclown]

Thanks for that. She looks cute, assuming she's real. But yes, I'd drop $400 on her, but 1. 3 K is crazy. A bit of an odd number, too. Why not an even grand, or $1200 or $1500?

Odd she still sets-up the meet after you told her no, and then ghosts / bocks. Sounds more like an immature kid than a real scammer. Still, waste of your time.

I think you're spot on; it felt more like chickening out. I wasn't even that annoyed when she ghosted, until I realized she blocked me rather than deleted her account on SDM, and made a new one on Seeking. Anyway, figured why'all could benefit from knowing to keep your wallets close.

[Berol Loz]

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...73389478&nsp=1
https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-ebf7aebb77d6

Had a M&G, scheduled a first date, but suddenly asked for $1. 3 k all of a sudden the day before the date (way more than and in addition to the 400 agreed upon). Obviously I didn't pay, she still set up the appointment, then I got ghosted and blocked at the last minute. Scammer; don't believe her sob stories. Avoid.

Thanks for that. She looks cute, assuming she's real. But yes, I'd drop $400 on her, but 1. 3 K is crazy. A bit of an odd number, too. Why not an even grand, or $1200 or $1500?

Odd she still sets-up the meet after you told her no, and then ghosts / bocks. Sounds more like an immature kid than a real scammer. Still, waste of your time.

[Rgfct4]

This one is interesting. First, I'll start by saying that I haven't personally met her. I have however seen her on a couple of swinger sites. A couple that I know in the lifestyle has met her as well. On these swinger sites, the profile is that of a male that boasts a wife and two "girlfriends". Of which she is one of the listed girlfriends. I've seen profiles for all 3 of the ladies on SA at some point, so the guy isn't fooling anyone who has seen them on SA and similar places. Anyway, apparently they host and go to a lot of swinger events. You can have them all for nothing if you are lucky? Enough to be at one of these events.

Could you please post a link or two? Or DM them to me?

Thanks in advance.

[HowAbtThis]

She is high volume and will BB anyone who asks. I almost met with her not too long ago but I got a feeling I shouldn't and backed out. That is the reality with the high volume girls, its a matter of time before she catches something and spreads it. I've had the clap twice in my time doing SA and it was from very clean cut looking girls. Thankfully it was an antibiotic pill and done with that. It is a matter of time BB'ing girls. Girls go in two directions when they start this stuff: 1. Fuck a few guys then burn out realizing the money isn't worth their mental health. 2. Embrace the lifestyle and become a pro at it. I've met some over the years who were only on seeking like two weeks and then burned out, lucky I caught them when I did. Still see one or two but they are mostly retired / UTR, will just see guys they have seen before. That's all to say when you see a pro girl you deal with pro girl problems.

This one is interesting. First, I'll start by saying that I haven't personally met her. I have however seen her on a couple of swinger sites. A couple that I know in the lifestyle has met her as well. On these swinger sites, the profile is that of a male that boasts a wife and two "girlfriends". Of which she is one of the listed girlfriends. I've seen profiles for all 3 of the ladies on SA at some point, so the guy isn't fooling anyone who has seen them on SA and similar places. Anyway, apparently they host and go to a lot of swinger events. You can have them all for nothing if you are lucky? Enough to be at one of these events.

[jobobtheclown]

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...73389478&nsp=1
https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-ebf7aebb77d6

Had a M&G, scheduled a first date, but suddenly asked for $1. 3 k all of a sudden the day before the date (way more than and in addition to the 400 agreed upon). Obviously I didn't pay, she still set up the appointment, then I got ghosted and blocked at the last minute. Scammer; don't believe her sob stories. Avoid.

[Swimback]

Any more recent updates on her? I've seen her before in the past back when she was doing BBBJ only but the recent posts about doctor visits are making me nervous.

She is high volume and will BB anyone who asks. I almost met with her not too long ago but I got a feeling I shouldn't and backed out. That is the reality with the high volume girls, its a matter of time before she catches something and spreads it. I've had the clap twice in my time doing SA and it was from very clean cut looking girls. Thankfully it was an antibiotic pill and done with that. It is a matter of time BB'ing girls. Girls go in two directions when they start this stuff: 1. Fuck a few guys then burn out realizing the money isn't worth their mental health. 2. Embrace the lifestyle and become a pro at it. I've met some over the years who were only on seeking like two weeks and then burned out, lucky I caught them when I did. Still see one or two but they are mostly retired / UTR, will just see guys they have seen before. That's all to say when you see a pro girl you deal with pro girl problems.

[Ganggang123]

What did you doctor tell you?

Any more recent updates on her? I've seen her before in the past back when she was doing BBBJ only but the recent posts about doctor visits are making me nervous.

[UnitedFan]

Saw Bbjay mentioned. Vile woman only interested in scamming and money. My own fault but I should've read the signs before giving into her sob story and giving her money. She basically ghosted and when I called her out she turned it around on me. Huge waste of time. Buyer beware of this shitty woman.

[SaintMan3500]

Sorry, forgot I couldn't post the link. Let's just Allyssa got into a little legal trouble.

While I didn't see the link, I think I know what you're talking about. I had seen her face on one of those websites that showed what she had gotten charged with. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised, since the reason initially was due to something similar.

[YourCCPimp]

You may have a hard time meeting with her.

Sorry, forgot I couldn't post the link. Let's just Allyssa got into a little legal trouble.

[YourCCPimp]

Great post. From looking at the names and putting them in the search bar, it seems I've also had "conversations" with them. From memory.

Carolina Charm: I remember she's been on the site a long time, but communication with her would always be shitty unless I said a smart ass comment (to which she'd immediately respond or have something of substance to say). Not into me.

Veronica J: She's replied to me in the past, but always seemed adamant about online only nonsense.

Natasha: She's replied to me in the past, but responses would always be one word generic responses. Not Into me.

Bbjay- not into me.

Violet710- I've talked with her but the biggest problem has been figuring out a day / date to meet. Either she's busy, or the days she suggested don't work with my schedule, etc. That said, Never got the vibe she would try to scam me or stand me up.

Allyssa- Probably the closest person that I've come close to meeting and we have had decent convos. Unfortunately a situation occurred that prevented us from linking up. Not a bad communicator, but seems very bitter and angry. I remember following her on Twitter / X, and 99% of her posts would be complaining, or telling people to KYS or wishing death on them.

You may have a hard time meeting with her.

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[SaintMan3500]

Great post. From looking at the names and putting them in the search bar, it seems I've also had "conversations" with them. From memory.

Carolina Charm: I remember she's been on the site a long time, but communication with her would always be shitty unless I said a smart ass comment (to which she'd immediately respond or have something of substance to say). Not into me.

Veronica J: She's replied to me in the past, but always seemed adamant about online only nonsense.

Natasha: She's replied to me in the past, but responses would always be one word generic responses. Not Into me.

Bbjay- not into me.

Violet710- I've talked with her but the biggest problem has been figuring out a day / date to meet. Either she's busy, or the days she suggested don't work with my schedule, etc. That said, Never got the vibe she would try to scam me or stand me up.

Allyssa- Probably the closest person that I've come close to meeting and we have had decent convos. Unfortunately a situation occurred that prevented us from linking up. Not a bad communicator, but seems very bitter and angry. I remember following her on Twitter / X, and 99% of her posts would be complaining, or telling people to KYS or wishing death on them.

As mentioned earlier, some reports to build a little cred around here. Not new to any of this though. You are not doing yourself or any of us a favor by sharing info here with the girls. We are all tricks to them, the only thing you have control over is how much of one you want to be. They will not appreciate or give you any special treatment, they will forget about your good deed in 5 minutes but forever be keen of our board here. They are a self selecting group of cold, calculated, and (at least to a degree) crazy women. We appreciate your cooperation here more than they appreciate yours. Not including link, just their username. You can look them up on the search bar in the filters, its easy. A few of my current are UTR now, have left seeking but still meeting regulars. Anyways YMMV with all this for current profiles:

Mara: Did not meet. Dancer, GPS, wants you to go to her strip club or buy content. PPM was like 2 k. She's attractive but body really isn't all that.

Supersugaski: Did not meet. Literal pornstar. Open to meet but PPM is 1 k+. You have to get a special order std test if you want bare. After seeing all the guys she takes raw in her content that's a pass for me.

Carolina Charm: Have met, have fucked. PPM at a hotel for a night. She's hot but has an attitude. Not a cute bratty attitude, kind of bitchy. Did get BBFS though. She's flaky and hard to lock down. I got her for a good price a while back but I bet she has raised her ask.

Veronica J: Hot but OF content selling rinser. Don't waste your time. Has a bf she does content with, really doubt she will ever fuck you, only lead you on.

Saphron: Real, down for fwb ppm. Ask is 600, too high for 32 year old single mom. Will not negotiate, at least not with me.

Angelgirl777: former listcralwer girl trying to upmarket to SB. Cleverly wiped a lot of it off the internet though. Has multiple arrests for heroin.

Natasha (formerly Jessica Rabbit): Been discussed a lot in the past. Have met 2 years back, have fucked BBFS. Regret BBFS though because she threatened not to take the plan b the next morning. She's a bit of a head case. Very hot but you are rolling the dice with her. She's the type to dox you if she feels scorned. Probably crazier now than when I saw her.

Bbjay: Legit, nice, has a bf so its discrete. Body isn't as good as pics show though.

Lillaylaaviolet710 : Knew her in real life so she's real. Haven't met because too small of a world. Is a smoker, and body isn't like what it shows in the pics, pics are a few years old.

Allyssa: Head case plus drugs = avoid. Very pro mentality to this.

IN Charlotte.

Mela: Legit but expensive, BBFS. She pricing is out of control now, way too inflated, like 800, saw her when it was 500. Up to you.

[3Putt]

Has anyone ever spoke to, met, and / or had an arrangement with a Woman called PoeticDesigns?


https://members.seeking.com/member/4b1572cd-74d5-4952-8934-4902211a7133

-She's been on Seeking Arrangements since 2016!

-Based in Los Angeles and Raleigh.

-Says She has made over 6 Figures. Works as a development producer and casting director for various networks. Also has 4 businesses.

-Has an EXTREMELY LARGE BIO, and comes across as someone who has very very very high standards.

I do recall having a friendly conversation with her 2 years ago. But back then, I felt that her bio was intimidating and didn't pursue or try to steer the convo to something more substanstial.

Either way, has anyone had a conversation with, or had a positive or negative experience with her? If so, what was it like?

She is mainly looking for trans, and bi males, if you fit the bill reach out to her.