General Reports

[TommyDawson]

The providers literally bought their own flights to Boston and Virginia, completely negating the narrative these were helpless trafficked women.

The investigators admit the owners screened customers for the safety of the providers. There's zero evidence this was some foreign intel honeypot operation.

Only 60 grand was recovered when there was millions of deposits. The people who really made money here were the real estate developers in Boston and VA. All those rent payments add up.

The press release mentioned collaboration of various justice departments, the Cambridge / Watertown Police, and the US Postal Service. Local authorities in Virginia and noticeably missing.

This story was released on a Friday afternoon. The worst time if you want media coverage. The narrative in many of the comments sections has shifted away from "release the names of these politician sex traffickers" to "why are the Feds wasting resources policing consenting adults".

[JmSuttr]

This disgusting circus is back on track. SJC decided that:

<< I conclude that the Clerk-Magistrate's decision to open the show cause hearings and deny pre-hearing access to the applications for complaint does not constitute an abuse of discretion or error of law. Opening the show cause hearings to the public, as she found, promotes transparency, accountability, and public confidence in the judiciary by demonstrating that each individual accused of these crimes, no matter their station in life, is treated equally. The Clerk-Magistrate, in her findings, articulated an adequate basis for denying access to the applications for complaint; the disclosure of extraneous personal information could create "collateral consequences for the individuals involved, and gratuitously expose non-public information that would otherwise remain private for those persons for whom no probable cause is established. ".

So, hearings will be open to public, press won't get the actual applications.

In the federal system, an interim order by a single judge, or the decision of a panel (usually consisting of 3 judges) can be appealed to the entire court. For the federal system, at the appellate level, this is called a request for an 'en banc' review. Not sure how things work in MA but it's hard to imagine that a single justice will have the absolute last word on the matter. I would imagine that defense attorneys would appeal to the entire Supreme Court to hear their arguments on due process and privacy grounds. And it might even be possible for defense attorneys to turn to federal courts for protection of their clients' Constitutional rights.

Hard to say, but if this truly is the end of the legal trail for the public vs private determination, then everyone who's been summoned is screwed. We'll know soon enough as they'll either announce new probable cause hearing dates, or we'll hear about more delays.

[EireAnn]

This disgusting circus is back on track. SJC decided that:

<< I conclude that the Clerk-Magistrate's decision to open the show cause hearings and deny pre-hearing access to the applications for complaint does not constitute an abuse of discretion or error of law. Opening the show cause hearings to the public, as she found, promotes transparency, accountability, and public confidence in the judiciary by demonstrating that each individual accused of these crimes, no matter their station in life, is treated equally. The Clerk-Magistrate, in her findings, articulated an adequate basis for denying access to the applications for complaint; the disclosure of extraneous personal information could create "collateral consequences for the individuals involved, and gratuitously expose non-public information that would otherwise remain private for those persons for whom no probable cause is established. ".

So, hearings will be open to public, press won't get the actual applications.

Makes absolutely no sense. The Feds couldn't even indict for human trafficking so what's the justification to open usually closed proceeding. This is really motivating me to move out of this shithole of a state. Running lives for a victimless crime is despicable.

[Hyperion11]

This disgusting circus is back on track. SJC decided that:

<< I conclude that the Clerk-Magistrate's decision to open the show cause hearings and deny pre-hearing access to the applications for complaint does not constitute an abuse of discretion or error of law. Opening the show cause hearings to the public, as she found, promotes transparency, accountability, and public confidence in the judiciary by demonstrating that each individual accused of these crimes, no matter their station in life, is treated equally. The Clerk-Magistrate, in her findings, articulated an adequate basis for denying access to the applications for complaint; the disclosure of extraneous personal information could create "collateral consequences for the individuals involved, and gratuitously expose non-public information that would otherwise remain private for those persons for whom no probable cause is established. ".

So, hearings will be open to public, press won't get the actual applications.

[TheGodsDecree]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/o...ted-grand-jury

They couldn't make a case for Human Trafficking.

It's always about t,he money.

BTT was a brothel with women doing this by their own decision (they aren't victims). If johns are charged these women should be charged, too. If they plan a walk of shame then it should be for both clients and sex workers.

[Bosnas]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/o...ted-grand-jury

They couldn't make a case for Human Trafficking.

It's always about the money.

[JmSuttr]

It's called at PeoplesCourtAudit on YouTube. It's a really entertaining YT channel if anyone wants to check it out. People film their Rights to dumb LE officers, who think they know the Law, better than civilians. On particular things, but then the civilians school the officer, by outeducating them. Making them look like fools, Owning the officer, is what these YouTubers call it. LMAO, very entertaining, MHO.

I know Lusty definitely knows his stuff and so don't lot of you, In General. Of when it comes to "Am I being detained officer I know my Rights if not I'm going to move along ". I remember him mentioning this type of stuff in the past and I'm always a fan of those posts. AM Acknowledge Me you funny too brotha. I appreciate you guys knowledge. Mean this sincerely.

I haven't watched that channel, and I'm sure it's entertaining, but I hope they make it clear that there are significant risks involved in "owning" LEOs, no matter how wrong or dumb they are.

That's because they have a LOT of different ways they can use, ethically or otherwise, to ensure that they get the last laugh. They have powers of arrest and detention and, if challenged (no matter how correctly), they can make your life pretty difficult. Here's an example: A monger gets stopped by LE as he's coming out of an AMP. He can obviously just remain silent, or say he was just getting a massage (and nothing else), but he decides he wants to teach the dumb LEO a lesson. After a few minutes pass, the LEO says something like "Do you smell that?" and says that he smells something that could be contraband (cannabis, hash, booze, whatever) and will need to detain you until he can investigate further. Then he calls for a drug-sniffing K-9 unit, which may be coming from far away. Then he calls for backup, and maybe a Sgt. Then they all confer to see what they can possibly do to screw with the guy pulling a "contempt of cop" attitude. Maybe the monger is squeaky clean, and his vehicle has absolutely Nothing wrong with it. In that case, all he's lost is time. But there's a not insignificant chance that they might find (or make up) something. Also, if they find some real or pretext reason to arrest you, they will almost certainly tow your vehicle. If that happens, they get to go through everything in your car (trunk included) without needing a search warrant. That's because they're allowed to take an inventory of the contents to protect against later claims that LE took something from the vehicle.

People can do what they want, and that's a risk-reward calculation everyone needs to make for themselves. FWIW, I'm keepin' my damn mouth shut, or the absolute bare minimum required, no matter what!

[Matty1169]

It's called at PeoplesCourtAudit on YouTube. It's a really entertaining YT channel if anyone wants to check it out. People film their Rights to dumb LE officers, who think they know the Law, better than civilians. On particular things, but then the civilians school the officer, by outeducating them. Making them look like fools, Owning the officer, is what these YouTubers call it. LMAO, very entertaining, MHO.

I know Lusty definitely knows his stuff and so don't lot of you, In General. Of when it comes to "Am I being detained officer I know my Rights if not I'm going to move along ". I remember him mentioning this type of stuff in the past and I'm always a fan of those posts. AM Acknowledge Me you funny too brotha. I appreciate you guys knowledge. Mean this sincerely.

[JmSuttr]

The public does not read anything in detail, and the press knows it. In the affidavit, there is no mention of people being coerced against their wills or victims. The affidavit was about:

1. A multi-state ring run by foreigners from Korea. Crossing state lines made this became a "human trafficking issue."

2. Fraud with COVID funds.

3. Running prostitution, which is illegal in the states where the ring operated.

4. Money that did not pay taxes.

And that's it. If they keep pushing this BS, the investigators should, therefore, go further and investigate the girls to understand they were doing this by their own decision. They are sex workers, that's what it means, people who sell sex in exchange for money. They are no victims; they are still working in other states. I think the feds know this already, but local LE and press are, I don't know, justifying their existence. Who knows what the fuck they want to do. Again, I understand that politicians and people with security clearances should be fucked. The rest? I don't see the point. That won't stop the prostitution "problem. " Just see the other forums, they are active as usual. The more I read the new posts from the journals, the less I trust in all of them. Imagine how many lies they say in many different matters. Disgusting.

There are all kinds of things that began as some type of social issue and then grew into full-fledged industries. Some that come to mind are anti-drug efforts, homelessness, climate change, and (of course) anti-trafficking. One thing they have in common is that there's a shitload of money sloshing around and lots of people who want to grab some of it. You have govt agencies who either get or give grants and they make themselves look good by saying how much money they've thrown at the problem. Then you have NGOs, and groups of all kinds, jumping on the bandwagon and clamoring for their piece of the action. And the media is the ever-present partner, enabler, and megaphone.

Of course, no matter how loud the outcry, or how much hand-wringing goes on, the problem is never solved. Legalizing or decriminalizing prostitution, as other countries have done successfully, is not an option because that would derail the gravy train. It would be fascinating to see how much the CEOs and officers of these "non-profits" are paying themselves, and what their travel and expense accounts look like. Once again, follow the money.

[TheGodsDecree]

My god this really is off the charts with BS. James O'Keefe should do an investigation into these women behind the scenes to show how it really works. They live a better life than most of the customers. Nice apartments in Queens or LA with wads of cash in safes, designer clothes, and handbags, vacations, meals at nice restaurants, etc.

This shows that what we are told in the news is not representative of the real story; that goes for everything, not just this situation.

The public does not read anything in detail, and the press knows it. In the affidavit, there is no mention of people being coerced against their wills or victims. The affidavit was about:

1. A multi-state ring run by foreigners from Korea. Crossing state lines made this became a "human trafficking issue."

2. Fraud with COVID funds.

3. Running prostitution, which is illegal in the states where the ring operated.

4. Money that did not pay taxes.

And that's it. If they keep pushing this BS, the investigators should, therefore, go further and investigate the girls to understand they were doing this by their own decision. They are sex workers, that's what it means, people who sell sex in exchange for money. They are no victims; they are still working in other states. I think the feds know this already, but local LE and press are, I don't know, justifying their existence. Who knows what the fuck they want to do. Again, I understand that politicians and people with security clearances should be fucked. The rest? I don't see the point. That won't stop the prostitution "problem. " Just see the other forums, they are active as usual. The more I read the new posts from the journals, the less I trust in all of them. Imagine how many lies they say in many different matters. Disgusting.

[CarloIsCrazy87]

Disgusting is the right word. The ignorance on this one is off the charts! What difference does the truth make if you can sell another paper.

My god this really is off the charts with BS. James O'Keefe should do an investigation into these women behind the scenes to show how it really works. They live a better life than most of the customers. Nice apartments in Queens or LA with wads of cash in safes, designer clothes, and handbags, vacations, meals at nice restaurants, etc.

This shows that what we are told in the news is not representative of the real story; that goes for everything, not just this situation.

[JmSuttr]

Web archive works, but you still have to disable JS to get rid of the popup.

https://archive.is/NUrpz

But the article isn't worth the bandwidth it takes up because it's a generic anti-trafficking rant that references the BTT case to push its BS narrative. Real opportunistic shit. They should be ashamed.

[DarkClouds]

Web archive works, but you still have to disable JS to get rid of the popup.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240129163558/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/29/metro/mass-brothel-case/[/URL]

[Hyperion11]

Any chance you can give a cliff notes version? No chance I'm giving that rag even a penny.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240129...-brothel-case/

[EireAnn]

And more inaccuracy and sensationalism to get people angry and get the walk of shame. This is disgusting.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/...s-brothel-case

Disgusting is the right word. The ignorance on this one is off the charts! What difference does the truth make if you can sell another paper.