NoVA SugarBabies

**Dimples572** · 03-08-23 15:19

Originally Posted by Mandane [View Original Post]

She reached out to me last night out of the blue and asked if I could match her previous ppm of $1 k. I declined.

Same quote for me. Unfortunately she's officially priced herself into the GPS stratosphere.

**Old Chinese Guy** · 03-08-23 11:45

Originally Posted by Arty33 [View Original Post]

Men have always paid for sex. One way or other. SB, escorts, GF, Wife, doesn't matter you pay one way or other. When you buy her gifts for birthday, anniversary, take her on trips, buy her purse, clothes, shoes, whatever. You are paying or sex. If men didn't worry about not getting sex they probably would do less of these. One can argue the merits of this, some may do some of it. But lets not kid ourselves, without the fear of not getting sex from your GF, Wife, mistress, SB, whatever you want to call, men would do less of these things. In that aspect then everyone's a pro. But I don't view it that way, it's just a fact that guys have to end up paying one way or other. The difference between SB and prostitute is volume and selection. A pro will fuck anyone who clears her screen for safety and behavior, she'll fuck with a condom, and will make it appear she loved it. A SB will not fuck anyone, there has to be some attraction, will fuck BB, and she will genuinely enjoy sex. Those are big differences for me. Then the gift part whether it is a cash allowance, for those other things are same between SB, GF, Wife, just a sliding scale that's all.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you as I feel there is a huge difference between an SO and a SB / escort / prostitute, but no amount of discussion will resolve this. Let me tell you about a little trick I use when I am confused of whether I have an SO or SB / escort / prostitute on my hands, I tell them they are a SB / escort / prostitute. If they agree, then I know who they are. If I'm too chicken to ask because I'm afraid of the reaction that might elicit, then I know I have an SO. I have further defined what I see are the differences in a previous post, probably right before this one if you are interested in knowing what I think.

**Old Chinese Guy** · 03-08-23 10:08

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

The whole Opsec thread makes me cringe, such extreme measures men go to in order to get their dicks wet behind their wives' backs, sneaking around like I did as a teenager. What kind of life is that to live.

Originally Posted by Squatty2 [View Original Post]

The answer is stability + variety. One's wife gives them stability. Wives can be really are great, they help manage the household with you and help raise your children with you. You can be a good team but you can have a great teammate, who you slowly lose interest in fucking. Everything else other than that could be fine though, so you find ways to fuck outside of the marriage.

Originally Posted by ProCatHunter [View Original Post]

Yin and Yang. Duality of man. That one sentence explains it all, in unmatched simplicity.
If a little bit of opsec let's me live a full life of having an SO I genuinely care about, a few 20 something FWBs, and the fun of reactivating my Seeking account from time to time to bang new women while adding to my rotation of fwbs, well. It's a price that I'm willing to pay.

Co-signed! I lived like that for years for the exact same reasons, but am now out of the wash cycle. One point to add, there is a huge difference between an SO and SB / escort (latter two being prostitutes by definition). A true 50:50 split in everything including responsibilities and expenses. A really true 50:50 would also mean she gets to play on the side, keep a few young 20 something hunky FWBs, get on SA and get a rotation of hunks in her stable. If one cannot see the difference between an SO and a SB / escort (prostitute) because one pays for everything, rent / mortgage, transportation, food, dinners out, clothing, childcare etc., then I would have to agree, you have a latter. If she raises YOUR children in exchange for all the other mentioned expenses, then she's an SO IMHO.

**HeyDuhman** · 03-08-23 05:36

Love this!

Originally Posted by ProCatHunter [View Original Post]

Yin and Yang. Duality of man. That one sentence explains it all, in unmatched simplicity.

I'll want that strange pussy, the rush of bedding a new 19 year old who screams "Daddy" while she cums, till the day I'm on my deathbed. It's also why paying premium prices, makes my junior go limp. Feels like much more of a conquest when I get a 8/9 sb in her twenties to spread those legs because she wants me, and the minimum allowance I give her is the price she is willing to accept to be my side chick rather than my SO.

If a little bit of opsec let's me live a full life of having an SO I genuinely care about, a few 20 something FWBs, and the fun of reactivating my Seeking account from time to time to bang new women while adding to my rotation of fwbs, well. It's a price that I'm willing to pay.

**ProCatHunter** · 03-08-23 02:32

Originally Posted by ChrisCarr [View Original Post]

The quest, anticipation, and post-nut clarity are 10 x this way. That is why.

Yin and Yang. Duality of man. That one sentence explains it all, in unmatched simplicity.

I'll want that strange pussy, the rush of bedding a new 19 year old who screams "Daddy" while she cums, till the day I'm on my deathbed. It's also why paying premium prices, makes my junior go limp. Feels like much more of a conquest when I get a 8/9 sb in her twenties to spread those legs because she wants me, and the minimum allowance I give her is the price she is willing to accept to be my side chick rather than my SO.

If a little bit of opsec let's me live a full life of having an SO I genuinely care about, a few 20 something FWBs, and the fun of reactivating my Seeking account from time to time to bang new women while adding to my rotation of fwbs, well. It's a price that I'm willing to pay.

**GolfMan57** · 03-07-23 20:31

Originally Posted by JkNova9 [View Original Post]

Anyone have any locks they've met w or know of in Fla? I'm down for a couple weeks on business at a couple stops, and making some additional trips to beach destinations on the weekends while down here. I'd be happy to send some info back for DC area girls for anyone who can hook a brother up w Fla referral (s).

What part of Florida? Big state.

**HeyDuhman** · 03-07-23 19:48

And she is not good looking either. Sent face pics to text and I'd not do her if she paid me.

Originally Posted by Mandane [View Original Post]

Now that the collective group therapy session has subsided, back to the true purpose of the forum.

Immediately concerned with how she's going to get paid. Wants to get paid for dinner dates. "I don't do anything physical. ".

🤮.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...1-97f01887a46e

**GMarts018** · 03-07-23 18:14

Originally Posted by Mandane [View Original Post]

Now that the collective group therapy session has subsided, back to the true purpose of the forum.

Immediately concerned with how she's going to get paid. Wants to get paid for dinner dates. "I don't do anything physical. ".

🤮.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...1-97f01887a46e

Haha! Take the crown! Hilarious LOL.

**Mandane** · 03-07-23 16:24

Now that the collective group therapy session has subsided, back to the true purpose of the forum.

Immediately concerned with how she's going to get paid. Wants to get paid for dinner dates. "I don't do anything physical. ".

🤮.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...1-97f01887a46e

**Ichrequiend** · 03-07-23 16:01

Any info on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...4-0f0adfd2ad6f

**Member #6802** · 03-07-23 13:26

Originally Posted by ChrisCarr [View Original Post]

The quest, anticipation, and post-nut clarity are 10 x this way. That is why.

Man, you nailed it. Most of us monger for those very reasons. I think we'd all agree it'd be nice to have a regular friend with benefits, but the "quest" and someone different wouldn't be satisfied.

I'd definitely like to have a discreet FWB. But until I meet one, providers and MPs are best solutions. It's like my dad said when I left for Army in '75, "son, when you're out and it's getting late, remember it better to get laid tonight and be choosey tomorrow."

**Mandane** · 03-07-23 13:13

Originally Posted by OldChineseGuy [View Original Post]

Bottomline for me is if I have to pay her for sex, she's a prostitute. That being a given, I understand the need to let SBs have their illusions about themselves.

Old joke / story often attributed to Winston Churchill.

Churchill: Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?

Socialite: My goodness, Mr. Churchill. Well, I suppose. We would have to discuss terms, of course.

Churchill: Would you sleep with me for five pounds?

Socialite: Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!

Churchill: Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.

**ChrisCarr** · 03-07-23 11:58

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

The whole Opsec thread makes me cringe, such extreme measures men go to in order to get their dicks wet behind their wives' backs, sneaking around like I did as a teenager. What kind of life is that to live.

The quest, anticipation, and post-nut clarity are 10 x this way. That is why.

**Arty33** · 03-07-23 11:28

Men have always paid for sex. One way or other. SB, escorts, GF, Wife, doesn't matter you pay one way or other. When you buy her gifts for birthday, anniversary, take her on trips, buy her purse, clothes, shoes, whatever. You are paying or sex. If men didn't worry about not getting sex they probably would do less of these. One can argue the merits of this, some may do some of it. But lets not kid ourselves, without the fear of not getting sex from your GF, Wife, mistress, SB, whatever you want to call, men would do less of these things. In that aspect then everyone's a pro. But I don't view it that way, it's just a fact that guys have to end up paying one way or other. The difference between SB and prostitute is volume and selection. A pro will fuck anyone who clears her screen for safety and behavior, she'll fuck with a condom, and will make it appear she loved it. A SB will not fuck anyone, there has to be some attraction, will fuck BB, and she will genuinely enjoy sex. Those are big differences for me. Then the gift part whether it is a cash allowance, for those other things are same between SB, GF, Wife, just a sliding scale that's all.

Originally Posted by OldChineseGuy [View Original Post]

Bottomline for me is if I have to pay her for sex, she's a prostitute. That being a given, I understand the need to let SBs have their illusions about themselves.

**Old Chinese Guy** · 03-07-23 00:37

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

Lots of dudes and girls on Reddit would say that even sugar relationships aren't explicitly about sex for money. Like I posted, they have this view where if it's gotten to monthly allowance instead of PPM, some months you'll be too busy to see each other, or maybe you only have time to get together for a quick coffee or lunch, or talk on the phone. Allowance is still paid on the 1st. Other months you'll be fucking like rabbits, every weekend, every day, staying in bed for 8 hours and fucking and sleeping. Allowance doesn't go up because there's more sex.

You could say even in that situation, sex is eventually expected or the arrangement stops. Well, for many men, sex is expected in marriage or the marriage stops, or they cheat on their wives if the wives don't give it up / aren't hot anymore / are boring in bed. In that way, even in marriage, physical needs have to be met or the man isn't interested in his wife anymore.

Bottomline for me is if I have to pay her for sex, she's a prostitute. That being a given, I understand the need to let SBs have their illusions about themselves.