Non Pro's

[BugManLet]

I don't mean to "cool story bro" ya as I've heard a few times about guys getting "free" action. But I'm always straight up, respectful, basically treat things like a vanilla first date. I'm reasonably attractive and present myself well. I've met dozens of women off Seeking and never been offered sex for free. Then again I'm not playing dumb about the site and usually acknowledge up front about being "mutually beneficial". I'm probably doing it wrong!

I still don't believe that. I mean, I've done the SA thing for a while and I can tell it's a real struggle out there for them. I've never met a girl on there who wasn't excited / relieved at how nice I was and that I actually had money. They come in with really high hopes and expectations and then get shot down because it just doesn't play out like the TikToks say it will. I would say that at least 90% of the time, if you treat those girls like human beings, they not only don't cost that much but you'll get some really good service and sometimes even get to have them just because you took them to lunch. There's no doubt that a ton of those girls have borderline PTSD from what guys on there have done to them. I've heard stories about how guys promised them some amount of money, then they end up fucking them really rough, spitting on them, verbally degrading them, and then throwing them $40 as they walk out.

I'm not a hot guy. I'm a 5'4" asian with a tiny dick and there's zero reason why these women should be hitting me up to go to dinner and fuck for free afterwards (yeah, I still consider that free) but it happens all the time. If you want my guess as to the greatest deficiency in guys on there, it's that they don't know how to talk. You have to listen, ask relevant questions, and give thoughtful responses. Some guys on here call it game, but I just call it not being socially inept. If you do that, I would say that the great majority of the time, the SA girl will fuck you for way, way less than she would a typical guy on there.

[BugManLet]

New guy here, though not new to the scene. Finally found this after all the whispers on sugarlifestyleforum. I started out interested in the hobby several years ago and lurked around. I dipped my toes in and felt it wasn't for me. After a while I heard about Seeking Arrangements and found it was more my speed. I've been on and off for 3 years, started with using it to line up dates when traveling for work then moved into meeting locals for regular ongoing arrangements. I've hooked up with 15 women, two of those were 3-4 month weekly meetups and my most recent was 9 months long which ended recently. I'm mid-40's and married. I've always done PPM, at $300 or $400 depending on situation. I aim for a fun, casual dating vibe and avoid any pro signals. Had some really cool and gorgeous girls. I'm testing the waters again and what I'm experiencing and reading on this forum isn't encouraging. Seems like everything else, pussy inflation is real. I've enjoyed the commentary and intel here and I'll see if I can contribute.

[Irwin18]

MissYaz6945 - wants 600-800 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...2-dd916e91a541

Wow. Yaz quoted me four. Do you think it's a scam?

[Marko Ramius]

...

So she got crossed off the list, just like that.

This isn't technically even GPS because no pussy is yet being offered.

After all that shit I ordered a Tenga Flip Zero from Amazon. Should be here tomorrow. It already has cost me less than that girl cost me (Including the mexican food) and isn't hitting me up for more money. So even though Amazon hasn't yet delivered it I am happier with a fake pussy than with that girl.

She is a cute petite black girl by the name of Layla.

Even though I cut her off and even though it is 100 percent clear I don't owe her anything, she is still blowing up my burner phone and still hitting me up for money. With one exception I'm just ignoring her.

She posted something about "how I'll get what I want, you just have to be patient with me. " and I got very annoyed. Very annoyed.

Again this isn't even GPS because no pussy is on offer or, at this point, even wanted.

Anyway, that Tenga Flip Zero arrived and it is way better than this girl could ever be. And at $80 from Amazon it is less expensive than taking her to Mexican food and is good for more than one use.

[3Putt]

Then two things are true.

She is wild in the sack.

And bat shit crazy.

[Bronco62]

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...9-d0bb23d592ee

Wants $500 PER HOUR and expects that rate to include time spent getting drinks or a meal.

[XyzzyS2]

HilariousActress. Picture seller.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...4-0bcabb962cb7

RedRider. Wants 600-700 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...d-701c91f09f25

MissYaz6945 - wants 600-800 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...2-dd916e91a541

[Michael1967]

My own thoughts are that no girl is going to make much of living charging guys $50 to get taken to lunch. And how many lunches a week can she really go to?

I agree that paying much more than that becomes toxic quickly.

I'm sort of the same mind. I give them the money for taking the time to meet me. Most are appreciative of it. I'm not condemning people that don't pay for it. We all have our style of doing things. If it's obvious that we're not compatible, I don't give anything, otherwise, that $50-60 may be difference between lackluster sex and enthusiastic sex once things get going.

[Marko Ramius]

I don't even pay them for the meet and greet. I'll buy them lunch / dinner / coffee sure but beyond that they know upfront this is free to see if there is chemistry. If they start to balk then sorry I then know there is a very high possibility all they want is to meet random guys get paid and never give anything else. I know a girl who did this for years scamming guys out of thousands of dollars for meet ups and "pay for their time". Just go on regular dates if that's what you're looking for.

My own thoughts are that no girl is going to make much of living charging guys $50 to get taken to lunch. And how many lunches a week can she really go to?

I agree that paying much more than that becomes toxic quickly.

[Member #6729]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...8-24af4854a479

Looks like Princess Penny is a pro as here is one of her ads:

https://adultsearch.com/washington/s...scorts/2594923

She also mentioned she's on tna as well.

She says she's in her 30's yet has the neck wrinkles of a 50+ year old LOL pass.

[Spacehog]

This week has been a lousy one for me.

On top of two girls dropping off of my rotation, I had silly drama with a new SB I was recruiting that led to me dropping her from contention.

Anyway, I'd met her about a week ago at a mexican restaurant, we'd had a nice time and a nice meal and things seemed to be going okay. I'd given her $50 for the meet. At the end of our meetup as I left the restaurant she came on strong about needing more money right then. Being laid back I just let it slide, smiled, and told her that next time I'd have more money available for her. So we had a nice hug and a kiss and left.

Usually after these I make a point of sending a thank you text, e. G. "Hey I had a nice time with you, hope to see you again soon!" I sent that and heard nothing.

Yesterday this same girl who has been silent for a week started blowing up my phone. At first she said she was mad at me because I "disrespected" her by not immediately giving her more money when I asked for it. She also says she is not "comfortable" with a more private meeting, and wants to go out again but that I should gift her $500 for the privilege of eating mexican food with her.

So she got crossed off the list, just like that.

This isn't technically even GPS because no pussy is yet being offered.

After all that shit I ordered a Tenga Flip Zero from Amazon. Should be here tomorrow. It already has cost me less than that girl cost me (Including the mexican food) and isn't hitting me up for more money. So even though Amazon hasn't yet delivered it I am happier with a fake pussy than with that girl.

I don't even pay them for the meet and greet. I'll buy them lunch / dinner / coffee sure but beyond that they know upfront this is free to see if there is chemistry. If they start to balk then sorry I then know there is a very high possibility all they want is to meet random guys get paid and never give anything else. I know a girl who did this for years scamming guys out of thousands of dollars for meet ups and "pay for their time". Just go on regular dates if that's what you're looking for.

[Marko Ramius]

This week has been a lousy one for me.

On top of two girls dropping off of my rotation, I had silly drama with a new SB I was recruiting that led to me dropping her from contention.

Anyway, I'd met her about a week ago at a mexican restaurant, we'd had a nice time and a nice meal and things seemed to be going okay. I'd given her $50 for the meet. At the end of our meetup as I left the restaurant she came on strong about needing more money right then. Being laid back I just let it slide, smiled, and told her that next time I'd have more money available for her. So we had a nice hug and a kiss and left.

Usually after these I make a point of sending a thank you text, e. G. "Hey I had a nice time with you, hope to see you again soon!" I sent that and heard nothing.

Yesterday this same girl who has been silent for a week started blowing up my phone. At first she said she was mad at me because I "disrespected" her by not immediately giving her more money when I asked for it. She also says she is not "comfortable" with a more private meeting, and wants to go out again but that I should gift her $500 for the privilege of eating mexican food with her.

So she got crossed off the list, just like that.

This isn't technically even GPS because no pussy is yet being offered.

After all that shit I ordered a Tenga Flip Zero from Amazon. Should be here tomorrow. It already has cost me less than that girl cost me (Including the mexican food) and isn't hitting me up for more money. So even though Amazon hasn't yet delivered it I am happier with a fake pussy than with that girl.

[AkFishGuy]

She's been on SA for 5 years and her profile seems high maintenance / money focused. I would expect covered and pro / semi pro experience.

You never know though.

Take her to the casino and spend $200-300 and she is all yours.

[Irwin18]

Sigh. Is there anything better than clicking on a hot girl's wish list and see a bunch of sex toys? Ahhhhhhhh I love those very good girls.

[Asianguy]

VDAY22 V25.

Hopefully this works. This is one that popped up for me.

Thanks brother!