WYP, SA, and other SD sites

**ProCatHunter** · 06-26-21 09:47

https://www.seeking.com/member/eada9...5-cfb65452418e

Example of a BP girl. She is active on the site when she needs cash. Sells nudes but also will meet in person. Damage for me was $200 but she started at $400 allowance request. Everything covered so I won't bother repeating. A bit of a dead fish for me as well (she likes girls but does this for the cash).

I've found that discussing allowance is best done in person. Going allowance in bmore area is $$$ ish. Most ladies start higher, but if you're in good shape and relatively attractive, and have the ability to use a bit of charm and sweet talk, rates go down.

And with most women, if you fuck them well and are willing to be relatively consistent, the allowance requirements will drop even further over time.

This has been my experience at least. Happy hunting gents.

**ProCatHunter** · 06-26-21 09:32

Sure, many are crazy, many are flakes. It's kinda like a poker game. When you sit down at the table, it just takes a while to get to know how to read different profiles and to develop your own style of play. Some girls use seeking as a straight up escort or backpage site. You'll need to be upfront and direct with them. Some girls are gps who are looking for the $5 k a month guy (those dudes do exist but are few and far between). Some girls are just looking for a semi decent looking dude that they would probably bang in real life to help with a few bills (this is my sweet spot). Some girls are into certain fetishes and are exclusively looking for a guy who is into the same stuff they are into (there was one girl who really enjoyed pain and the bruises on her body proved it. Way too much for me).

No doubt there are a ton of scammers, but there are more than enough gems to keep going. Look for profiles that have been around for at least 6 months and that are still active. Most scammer profiles die after a month or so since the pool of guys is relatively limited. Also go back a little bit in the thread on this page to find out which girls are legit, and which aren't.

Remember, it's a numbers game, so the more lines you cast, the more likely you are to get a bite.

Originally Posted by DriftingFan101 [View Original Post]

Glad to know it's not me that's crazy and that it really is just bullshit scammers I am getting, that really makes me wonder what it was like when SA was actually good. I have 3 months that I paid for and if things do not improve I think I will just go back to escorts who are actually willing to meet as this is just paying to encounter scammers at this point which is not what I signed up for.

**DriftingFan101** · 06-26-21 05:19

Glad to know it's not me that's crazy and that it really is just bullshit scammers I am getting, that really makes me wonder what it was like when SA was actually good. I have 3 months that I paid for and if things do not improve I think I will just go back to escorts who are actually willing to meet as this is just paying to encounter scammers at this point which is not what I signed up for.

**BigCoolie** · 06-25-21 23:59

Originally Posted by OldChineseGuy [View Original Post]

Yeah, I would have to agree higher-end escorts are generally more reliable than SBs on SA wrt to keeping appointments… As a rule, I never ever paid for M&Gs, I'll pay for drinks / dinner but I ain't reimbursing anyone for their time if I ain't able to put it in one or more of the three holes.

I would say all three holes. But, he is right. The scammers are usually obvious. The SBs who prefer PTP are a bit obvious too. The amateurs usually want you to make them feel special and unique. Almost like dating when you are emailing them through the site, but in person is usually much better. I do not send money until we are in an arrangement and after our first encounter. I am sure that we all differ around the latter part of that prior sentence.

**Old Chinese Guy** · 06-25-21 21:31

Originally Posted by DriftingFan101 [View Original Post]

I know I am new to SA and sugar babies but so far all I have seen is people asking for cash app payments and not even willing to entertain PTP let alone meeting unless you send them money on a cash app, or paypal. I have had better luck with the escort section as atleast those ladies are willing to see you even if some of them are flaky, is this the new norm or am I doing something wrong?

Yeah, I would have to agree higher-end escorts are generally more reliable than SBs on SA wrt to keeping appointments. I think in part because escorts are more professional as this is their business and they are looking for reliable repeat customers whereas SBs tend to approach things from an amateur perspective. Some SBs may not have committed to the lifestyle yet as they are checking it out to see how much they can make. At least that is my experience. With that being said, I have found an escort and a SB who are both exactly the body type I like (skinny with REAL big tits, emphasis on real as in unaugmented), provide me with all the services I desire at a reasonable price and are reliable (keep appointments they make or if they can't they will give me sufficient notice and not ghost). It has been a long search since my UTR moved away and I have been through many escorts and SBs before finding exactly what I want. It has been a 3 cycle run on SA, I'm out at the end of this cycle as it does get exhausting after a while, not to mention the coin you have to go through. Anyway for those of you who are still looking for your ideal SB or escort, keep looking, they are out there. Side note: if any SB asks for cash before meeting, they are scammers. I always ask how me sending them cash guarantees their safety or prevents them from being scammed. Actually I also ask how they have been scammed, it's not like they send anyone cash LOL. As a rule, I never ever paid for M&Gs, I'll pay for drinks / dinner but I ain't reimbursing anyone for their time if I ain't able to put it in one or more of the three holes.

**DriftingFan101** · 06-25-21 20:58

I know I am new to SA and sugar babies but so far all I have seen is people asking for cash app payments and not even willing to entertain PTP let alone meeting unless you send them money on a cash app, or paypal. I have had better luck with the escort section as atleast those ladies are willing to see you even if some of them are flaky, is this the new norm or am I doing something wrong?

**BigCoolie** · 06-25-21 18:00

She is willing to meet for $$$ but cannot host.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2a5b9...f-7ce5bd24aa53

**MilesNoDavis** · 06-24-21 12:45

Chating with these ladies, so any insight or intel would be appreciated.

Princesstonii.

https://www.seeking.com/member/db886...d-68b9e7f12754

Prettysarah93.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ead4a...4-b37c2b5092cb

Visible_treasure (seems flakey).

https://www.seeking.com/member/7d177...9-9001024e99a3

BmoreEbonyBaby.

https://www.seeking.com/member/71289...d-f55ac90e074b

Paris5 ever.

https://www.seeking.com/member/5be77...6-fcc42d67fe83

Avaaaarileyyyy.

https://www.seeking.com/member/dd3ab...3-98a39cd2aa32

**DriftingFan101** · 06-24-21 06:04

SA just gave me enough of a discount to give it a trial run, hopefully this is not a waste of time and money like AFF was in May with not a single legit person to be found.

**Biggyv** · 06-23-21 23:57

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuude [View Original Post]

I've been using SDM for the last several months. About the same results (some legit, some fake), but at half the price. In general pretty good results. My 2 cents.

I just signed up myself. Might be worth it even just for a new pool of women to choose from. I'll be sure to report back and hopefully others can do the same.

**Duuuuuuude** · 06-23-21 21:03

Originally Posted by DriftingFan101 [View Original Post]

Wow I picked a shitty tome to consider joining SA then, hearing the vets here say it's a lot of bull and games does not make me want to spend that $90 for a 1 month test drive.

Things are already pretty lacking for escorts so I figured to give SA a try but hearing mostly bad the past week and a half I'm not sure that it's worth spending that $90.

Gave AFF a try last month and all I had was scammers, bots, and escorts who wanted pre paid cards or money through a cash app which are red flags.

I've been using SDM for the last several months. About the same results (some legit, some fake), but at half the price. In general pretty good results. My 2 cents.

**DriftingFan101** · 06-23-21 20:18

Wow I picked a shitty tome to consider joining SA then, hearing the vets here say it's a lot of bull and games does not make me want to spend that $90 for a 1 month test drive.

Things are already pretty lacking for escorts so I figured to give SA a try but hearing mostly bad the past week and a half I'm not sure that it's worth spending that $90.

Gave AFF a try last month and all I had was scammers, bots, and escorts who wanted pre paid cards or money through a cash app which are red flags.

**MilesNoDavis** · 06-23-21 20:07

TRUE, they have lost their damn minds. LOL.

Originally Posted by Shinshi86 [View Original Post]

I hear you, man. A couple years back, I had this one reliable SB whom I saw about once a month. Some folks here might remember Jengo / Jen from Gaithersburg? Anyway after the fourth or so meet, she told me to forget the donation & to just get a hotel room every other meet (could sometimes host) while occasionally buying lunch / dinner. And since we usually went at it 3 - 7 x's per meet, I considered myself pretty fortunate! Alas, all good things don't last forever. She's dropped out of the sugaring game multiple times--claimed to have found love--but inevitably winds up back here.

Last fall, I saw she had reappeared on Seeking and figured I'd give it another shot. It was the first time we'd spoken in months, but she politely indicated that she wasn't interested. No hard feelings, I genuinely wished her well and moved on. But then she reached out a month ago, asking for 200 and that she'd meet up again. I pointed out that while I'm happy to meet, I don't advance money anymore--been burned in the past by others & not looking to repeat those mistakes. She said she understood & still wanted to meet. The problem is she keeps bringing up how broke she is, how life has been hard on her, how parents have trust issues, etc. Additionally, she's changed the date of when we're supposed to meet at least five times since reaching out again (thankfully gives a day notice, so that's something).

Another separate girl I've been working on since last month has been super hesitant to meet. Despite both of us proving to the other we're real & after saying she was cool without an upfront donation, she keeps bringing it up after a week goes by (claims other johns have given 200 for just lunch)! After countering how she said earlier that she was fine without PBM for me, she'd mellow out and say no worries. Then when it comes down to scheduling a meet, it's either last-minute work scheduling or can't find a baby-sitter. The only reason I've been persistent in making it work is she's quite possibly the most stunning 19 yo I've ever seen.

I dunno what's going on lately with Seeking these days. Maybe it's time to throw in the towel with some of these girls and either A) Expand my search patterns, or B) Drop from Seeking and save up for the occasional vacation to Tijuana or Montreal instead. Still, I'm grateful that the SBs I've come across at least give me advance notice before I make the long drive over. So that's something.

**MilesNoDavis** · 06-23-21 20:05

I agree! SA has taken way more effort these days. I've used the site for more than 10 years, and don't mind having them travel (or meet in the middle) so my results are typically REALLY good. I expanded my search years ago to include much of the mid-atlantic, which typically has only added 3-4 hours extra to the total time spent linking up with these girls. It means I do spend more on gas, or tavel expenses- it's been worth it.

Originally Posted by Shinshi86 [View Original Post]

I hear you, man. A couple years back, I had this one reliable SB whom I saw about once a month. Some folks here might remember Jengo / Jen from Gaithersburg? Anyway after the fourth or so meet, she told me to forget the donation & to just get a hotel room every other meet (could sometimes host) while occasionally buying lunch / dinner. And since we usually went at it 3 - 7 x's per meet, I considered myself pretty fortunate! Alas, all good things don't last forever. She's dropped out of the sugaring game multiple times--claimed to have found love--but inevitably winds up back here.

Last fall, I saw she had reappeared on Seeking and figured I'd give it another shot. It was the first time we'd spoken in months, but she politely indicated that she wasn't interested. No hard feelings, I genuinely wished her well and moved on. But then she reached out a month ago, asking for 200 and that she'd meet up again. I pointed out that while I'm happy to meet, I don't advance money anymore--been burned in the past by others & not looking to repeat those mistakes. She said she understood & still wanted to meet. The problem is she keeps bringing up how broke she is, how life has been hard on her, how parents have trust issues, etc. Additionally, she's changed the date of when we're supposed to meet at least five times since reaching out again (thankfully gives a day notice, so that's something).

Another separate girl I've been working on since last month has been super hesitant to meet. Despite both of us proving to the other we're real & after saying she was cool without an upfront donation, she keeps bringing it up after a week goes by (claims other johns have given 200 for just lunch)! After countering how she said earlier that she was fine without PBM for me, she'd mellow out and say no worries. Then when it comes down to scheduling a meet, it's either last-minute work scheduling or can't find a baby-sitter. The only reason I've been persistent in making it work is she's quite possibly the most stunning 19 yo I've ever seen.

I dunno what's going on lately with Seeking these days. Maybe it's time to throw in the towel with some of these girls and either A) Expand my search patterns, or B) Drop from Seeking and save up for the occasional vacation to Tijuana or Montreal instead. Still, I'm grateful that the SBs I've come across at least give me advance notice before I make the long drive over. So that's something.