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  1. #1193

    I assume

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris93  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.
    That she either went to another town to work (she told me she was from virginia or pa) or she got locked up again (I had her tell me about her lesbian lock up love while I was fucking her). Anyways I only saw her once as her rates practically doubled and she tried to accuse me of taking advantage of her bs.

  2. #1192
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

    Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

    I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

    At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

    This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

    Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

    Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

    Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

    By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

    If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

    I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

    So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

    Seriously. WTF.
    She just emailed me earlier to tell me she was drunk when she wrote those responses 😂.

    She did agree to BBFS but at a higher rate than her website lists.

    I'm still trying to negotiate. Will update if things go well.

  3. #1191

    Strange Bedfellows

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

    Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

    ---

    So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

    Seriously. WTF.
    This hobby attracts some strange bedfellows (pun intended). My only BBFS experience with a provider (not this one) was her idea, not mine. I had seen her every week for about six months and one day she just climbs aboard and starts pumping away. Not just once, but for the next eight months. Then she started visiting at my apartment as friends for another four months. Then she lost her fucking mind. Started peeling the layers away from her story and discovered it was mostly fabricated. Lesson? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, don't put your dick in crazy.

  4. #1190
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

    Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

    I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

    At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

    This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

    Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

    Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

    Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

    By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

    If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

    I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

    So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

    Seriously. WTF.
    Thats the strangest experience you ever had in this hobby? Man. Thats nothing. Sorry to say but there is worse, maybe even far worse, to come. Not hoping that on you by any means. Just saying LOL.

    BTW. If she was indeed flying / traveling while e-mailing you, maybe wi-fi signals going in and out may have been the cause for the incoherent messages. Just a thought. Welcome to the hobby.

  5. #1189
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris93  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.
    Whenever a train-wreck (at least in appearance) like her disappears, my fear is overdose. But she could have just very well took her business far elsewhere to another place closer to reliable suppliers.

  6. #1188

    Envy Jolie. No BBFS (I think? Strange experience)

    Speaking of wasted time, I recently contacted Envy Jolie (or at least I'm assuming it was her at the protonmail address).

    Conversation started out simple enough, I mentioned my testing status, she stated she wouldn't discuss services but would instead send me reviews once she vetted my references, and assured me that I'd get what I had in mind.

    I said fine, she vetted me with no problem, seemed like things were going smoothly. She said that if I had any questions I could ask afterwards. Sent me the review screenshots, all indicated CFS.

    At this point, I responded back stating that I was specifically looking for BBFSCIP and Greek CIA.

    This is where things went downhill. I'm not sure if English is her first language, but each email response after that sounded increasingly incoherent, almost like a foreigner using Google translate.

    Her first response basically sounded like she was looking to charge me extra for those services. So at that point I said ok fine how much extra?

    Her next email after that was completely incomprehensible but it essentially sounded like she was saying that it was against her religion and that I couldn't pay her enough to perform these services. Something about when I can print money then we can talk, although the way she wrote it was nowhere near that comprehensible. She mentioned something about "eating protein", which is what leads me to believe that whoever this person was, was using Google translate.

    Her next response after that seemed like it was accusing me (saracastically or otherwise) of trying to stalk or kill her and it sounded like she was expressing shock at the fact that so many stars I had seen were willing to do BBFSCIP (I didn't tell her this, but I'm sure she inferred it).

    By this point her emails were suddenly so incoherent that it almost seemed like a scam and I was talking to a fake account. Again, I don't know how well she can speak English but the initial emails prior to my explicit statements were very well written by comparison. And then suddenly there was a complete 180 like I was talking to another person.

    If this was a scam and a fake, it was a very confusing and poorly planned one.

    I lost my patience at that point and basically said I'm done, thanks but no thanks. She sent one last email again alleging that I was trying to kill her, and I basically lost my shit and said WTF are you talking about this is confusing AF. She basically responded "Ya I'm confused too, I don't have time for this as I'm traveling. ", along with more incoherent babbling. I didn't even bother to respond at that point.

    So there you have it, ladies and gents. Hands down THE strangest experience I've had yet in this hobby.

    Seriously. WTF.

  7. #1187
    Anyone have info on Karma Giordani or Alysia Wild?

  8. #1186
    Anyone know what happened to Chelsea that chick who worked in queens was real cool and damn cheap for BBFS cip action.

  9. #1185
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris93  [View Original Post]
    I guess it depends on the girl over here because I remember when people posted about gaga allowing BBFS a bunch of reviews came through here with disappointment of no BBFS with her. But I went and I'm Spanish and not of the light skinned variety but I made her feel comfortable and I'm still young not bad looking and made her trust me that I have no std and I'm clean and after we were fucking with a condom she just ripped it off and put me inside her. You just need to know how to talk to these ladies and make them feel appreciated and not like a piece of meat that your just going to push to the side once your done and never come back. It doesn't work with everyone but I have my victories everyonce in awhile.
    Well, that's certainly true in my experience and I've been saying it here a lot: if you treat the girls with courtesy and respect you never know what you're going to get.

    But, it is easier for asians to get bb from asian girls. There are a lot of reasons for this. But, that doesn't mean that you can't get bb from asians if you're not an asian. It just means it's not as easy to do.

  10. #1184
    Quote Originally Posted by TexLonghorn  [View Original Post]

    Do you think that the VIP tag on eros ads may mean bare is available?
    Maybe in some of cases but mostly not. From what I can tell, the VIP tag on Eros means they paid more money for their ad.

  11. #1183

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    I don't care so much about the pricing as I do about the BS attitude. Either tell me you don't do X or that you won't answer any questions (which is a no), or you do but don't waste both my time and yours trying to lecture or shame me in an email exchange.

    Especially after I've jumped through all your hoops.

    I'm direct for a reason, and if time is money then they're honestly losing more than I am by engaging in this nonsense.
    That's what I do. You go straight to the point. Since the ter review system is down in the US, I asked those girls direct question. Anal or no. BBFS or not, BBBJ or no and so on. I don't want to waste the money I worked hard for bullshit.

  12. #1182
    Quote Originally Posted by Chief5665  [View Original Post]
    Why don't you ask the mongers who reviewed her?
    Because I'm not premium, I can't access the reviews or see who those people are.

  13. #1181
    Quote Originally Posted by MintyFresh  [View Original Post]
    She was a lot more affordable when she was still dancing in NJ as Daisy Star. Her prices have wildly fluctuated since she started doing porn.
    I don't care so much about the pricing as I do about the BS attitude. Either tell me you don't do X or that you won't answer any questions (which is a no), or you do but don't waste both my time and yours trying to lecture or shame me in an email exchange.

    Especially after I've jumped through all your hoops.

    I'm direct for a reason, and if time is money then they're honestly losing more than I am by engaging in this nonsense.

  14. #1180
    Quote Originally Posted by JesseChang90  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys, long time lurker and first time poster here.

    I've been a regular at two fairly well known GFE spas in Manhattan (Kiss Kiss Pop and GFE All Stars) and I've had success getting BBFS from several providers at both locations. YMMV because I've seen these girls multiple times each and I'm also Asian so I can speak their language. I don't know if the fact that I can speak to them in their native language really matters but I figured I should mention that before saying BBFS is available with them; I just know that I've gotten it on several occasions and with these girls I don't even have to ask anymore. It's just assumed I'm going bare.

    KKP. Pinky and Nana.

    Pinky is a newish girl and I haven't seen Nana in a while but they both have BBFS available. The first time I did it with Pinky she asked for an additional $50 but with Nana I didn't have to pay any extra.

    GFE All Stars. Helen.

    I've seen Helen three times and the last two were BBFS. This place is 240 all in and the girls don't expect or ask for more. I think Helen might be my ATF. She's definitely the hottest one there.

    Please keep in mind that the best way to get BB in my experience is to engage in a good amount of foreplay. DATY, kissing, massaging, rimming. These are all things I do for the girls and when they're equally as horny as you are, your chances of BB go way up..
    Is this KKP as it is now?

  15. #1179
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Just tried to set something up with Danielle and I got her assistant who gave me a line about not implying services.

    In the process of testing the waters now. Will update once I get a response. I have a feeling that I should have kept my mouth shut but after my experience with Kiss April I simply would rather lose out on "maybe" than take a gamble.

    While I understand their concerns regarding explicit language, there are SO many other stars AND agents who won't waste your time like that, and it's just not necessary to go through that. Especially if you're offering options like additional verification info, plenty of references who ALL vouch for you and a willingness to speak on the phone to avoid putting anything in writing.
    She was a lot more affordable when she was still dancing in NJ as Daisy Star. Her prices have wildly fluctuated since she started doing porn.

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