Escort Reports

**Ozymandias** · 01-10-17 10:53

Originally Posted by AtlHobbyist67 [View Original Post]

BP just go too popular. It helps the self righteous to feel like something is being done. Besides, the gummit doesn't use BP, they use the "elite" escort agencies, so they can have their cake and eat it too!

The irony here is that BP was the best tool LE had for setting up busts, finding underage girls who'd been trafficked, and so on; a staple of investigating runaways had been searching for them on BP.

O.

**MrHobbyist** · 01-10-17 06:16

Originally Posted by Acaryu [View Original Post]

Backpage escort section is now gone. Underage prostitution is bad. The cops should go after them. But adults? So if you go after backpage for profiting from prostitution ads, how about the cell phone company that sells phone and AT&T for carrying the traffics on their network for the Johns to read? This is the same argument about banning gun processing. The guns don't kill people, people kills people. You can't outlaw people selling guns, but it should be OK to control it.

BP just go too popular. It helps the self righteous to feel like something is being done. Besides, the gummit doesn't use BP, they use the "elite" escort agencies, so they can have their cake and eat it too!

**SoilderBoy** · 01-09-17 23:37

Has anybody been to EAA since the raids if so please let me know need to know if it's safe wanted to take the plunge this weekend pm are fine too.

Thanks SB.

**Acaryu** · 01-09-17 23:35

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

As Acaryu says, it's to scare the girls and leverage cooperation from them; nothing breaks loyalty like the threat of taking *everything*.

One of the best tools The State can use is scaring people with the complexity of dealing with the criminal justice system, especially once you're in it (sitting in a jail cell), and you just want your life to return to normal. I have a PhD (physics) and *I* would never try to negotiate the court system without an attorney (or several); it's just too complex, and too many things can go wrong, and it's too easy to game it once you have folks on the inside (like connected lawyers). I even have an attorney take care of traffic offenses, because I take no chances with the criminal justice system.

But here's some 19 yo girl, probably a high school dropout (escorts are hardly the educational cream at the top), and very likely with various minor priors (it's easy to guess: possession, shoplifting, DUI are the Stripper Trifecta, and probably apply to escorts as well), and it's a 100% chance that they'll say anything the the wants them to: "oh, yeah, they picked me up at a bus stop, gave me drugs, and trafficked me!

The gets to tell the media about how he "busted up a major human trafficking ring". Wash and wear; it's that easy.

Anyway, this too shall pass, but it's best to avoid agencies at the moment.

O.

You can't afford the legal fees and your name all over the news.

**PlaynAtl** · 01-09-17 23:34

Originally Posted by Acaryu [View Original Post]

Backpage escort section is now gone. Underage prostitution is bad. The cops should go after them. But adults? So if you go after backpage for profiting from prostitution ads, how about the cell phone company that sells phone and AT&T for carrying the traffics on their network for the Johns to read? This is the same argument about banning gun processing. The guns don't kill people, people kills people. You can't outlaw people selling guns, but it should be OK to control it.

Do they honestly think this is going to help anything? It will just drive them farther underground.

**Acaryu** · 01-09-17 23:29

Backpage escort section is now gone. Underage prostitution is bad. The cops should go after them. But adults? So if you go after backpage for profiting from prostitution ads, how about the cell phone company that sells phone and AT&T for carrying the traffics on their network for the Johns to read? This is the same argument about banning gun processing. The guns don't kill people, people kills people. You can't outlaw people selling guns, but it should be OK to control it.

**Ternarius** · 01-09-17 23:18

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

As Acaryu says, it's to scare the girls and leverage cooperation from them; nothing breaks loyalty like the threat of taking *everything*.

But here's some 19 yo girl, probably a high school dropout (escorts are hardly the educational cream at the top), and very likely with various minor priors (it's easy to guess: possession, shoplifting, DUI are the Stripper Trifecta, and probably apply to escorts as well), and it's a 100% chance that they'll say anything the the wants them to: "oh, yeah, they picked me up at a bus stop, gave me drugs, and trafficked me!

The gets to tell the media about how he "busted up a major human trafficking ring". Wash and wear; it's that easy.

Anyway, this too shall pass, but it's best to avoid agencies at the moment.

O.

One of the girls arrested was 18 yr, 3 mo old. Makes you wonder. How long had she been at agency?

**Ozymandias** · 01-09-17 18:59

Originally Posted by NuGuy36 [View Original Post]

I'm curious why the FED's went after each girl under RICO. The owners of the agency, perhaps, but to go after the ladies, who are just independent contractors, makes no sense whatsoever? It's like the FED's went creek fishing with an AK47 instead of using a fishing rod with worm bait.

As Acaryu says, it's to scare the girls and leverage cooperation from them; nothing breaks loyalty like the threat of taking *everything*.

One of the best tools The State can use is scaring people with the complexity of dealing with the criminal justice system, especially once you're in it (sitting in a jail cell), and you just want your life to return to normal. I have a PhD (physics) and *I* would never try to negotiate the court system without an attorney (or several); it's just too complex, and too many things can go wrong, and it's too easy to game it once you have folks on the inside (like connected lawyers). I even have an attorney take care of traffic offenses, because I take no chances with the criminal justice system.

But here's some 19 yo girl, probably a high school dropout (escorts are hardly the educational cream at the top), and very likely with various minor priors (it's easy to guess: possession, shoplifting, DUI are the Stripper Trifecta, and probably apply to escorts as well), and it's a 100% chance that they'll say anything the the wants them to: "oh, yeah, they picked me up at a bus stop, gave me drugs, and trafficked me!

The gets to tell the media about how he "busted up a major human trafficking ring". Wash and wear; it's that easy.

Anyway, this too shall pass, but it's best to avoid agencies at the moment.

O.

**AaimServices** · 01-09-17 18:20

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

I'd like to know more about Cassie and Stella, such as if they offer BBBJs.

They both offer BBBJ.

**Acaryu** · 01-09-17 18:11

Originally Posted by NuGuy36 [View Original Post]

I'm curious why the FED's went after each girl under RICO. The owners of the agency, perhaps, but to go after the ladies, who are just independent contractors, makes no sense whatsoever? It's like the FED's went creek fishing with an AK47 instead of using a fishing rod with worm bait.

One way to force the girls to testify against the owners. I am not saying it is ethnical or not.

**Curious828** · 01-09-17 18:02

Originally Posted by Bulldog4094 [View Original Post]

Would it be logical to assume that most / many of the ladies from shut down agencies in Atl are going indy? And will be advertising on BP or other sites? Thanks.

For the ones not arrested (their agency just shut down), I bet the majority do come back albeit with different names. I also make this prediction: in time there will be agencies to replace the ones shut down--quite possibly by the same owners. For the providers who were actually arrested, a fewer number will likely come back, but some are always going to take their chances.

**Curious828** · 01-09-17 18:00

Originally Posted by NuGuy36 [View Original Post]

I'm curious why the FED's went after each girl under RICO. The owners of the agency, perhaps, but to go after the ladies, who are just independent contractors, makes no sense whatsoever? It's like the FED's went creek fishing with an AK47 instead of using a fishing rod with worm bait.

RICO is the sledgehammer in hopes of forcing them to testify against the owners. If they get good lawyers and didn't run their mouths too much, the RICO will likely be dropped anyway. Otherwise, their plea deal will almost certainly force them to testify to get the RICO dismissed.

**Petey1015** · 01-09-17 17:57

Originally Posted by NuGuy36 [View Original Post]

I'm curious why the FED's went after each girl under RICO. The owners of the agency, perhaps, but to go after the ladies, who are just independent contractors, makes no sense whatsoever? It's like the FED's went creek fishing with an AK47 instead of using a fishing rod with worm bait.

Because they're looking for a bigger fish, even though the charges probably wouldn't stick once in court, they're trying to pressure girls into giving up information. RICO raises all the stakes, what bond is set at, the attorney you hire, basically making it an inconvenience for the girls charged.

**NuGuy36** · 01-09-17 16:43

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

They charged every girl under RICO? I wish these girls could afford an attorney who would tear LE a new one for abusing the statute.

Now that any remaining Mafia are dragging oxygen tanks behind them, that's a piece of legislation which needs to go.

O.

I'm curious why the FED's went after each girl under RICO. The owners of the agency, perhaps, but to go after the ladies, who are just independent contractors, makes no sense whatsoever? It's like the FED's went creek fishing with an AK47 instead of using a fishing rod with worm bait.