Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[NcPantyHose2]

Add on CL said she be back t Pegasus Monday lunch time. Will toftt and report afterwards.

[NoPostPang]

I got a PM one time from NCPanty on an old profile where he asked me if I was MajorSlow. So weird if they are they same person that he'd go that far to mess with my head.

I had caught on long ago, but got into trouble with admin for busting him a couple of times. It used to piss me off a little because so many newbies were confused and heading out on snipe hunts and such. But the more I think about it, admin was right. Best thing to do is just ignore him and let the noobs figure it out for themselves. And he is not just major and pantyhose either, this guy has so many accounts it is pathetic. But I have noticed some clues to identify him everytime.

First off, the unusual amount of posts for a regular member is red flag #1. Then there is the goofy off the wall stuff about weird fetishes and alot of homerotic references. But the kicker is reading further into his reviews. He does a decent job of sounding legit, but you will notice that all of the reviews will just be echoing comments of other mongers about a particular girl. Or he will review a streetwalker or bookstore girl that apparently only worked one day and only saw him, cause nobody else has ever even seen a glimpse of her. The troll is also on every thread. Most of us here have a particular niche and stick mainly in our area of preference, ex. Bookstore guys, AMP guys, streetwalker guys and so on. The troll will post a lot on all of these as if there are 36 hours in a day. I took admins advice and just started ignoring every member that fell into any of these categories. So I could never tell you if pang was him or not, after a paragraph into his 7th post in 3 days I just assumed he was be. S. And never read another word. And oh yeah, he drives a truck and always mentions hopping into it to head to an AMP, an adult bookstore, a street in the zone, a motel off capital, you get my drift?

Good luck out there.

Chavez (bookstore guy).

[NoPostPang]

I'm real. Just not posting. I hate that my post fell into the suspect category. Just wanted to set the record straight that I'm me and the stuff that I posted on this board really happened to me.

I had caught on long ago, but got into trouble with admin for busting him a couple of times. It used to piss me off a little because so many newbies were confused and heading out on snipe hunts and such. But the more I think about it, admin was right. Best thing to do is just ignore him and let the noobs figure it out for themselves. And he is not just major and pantyhose either, this guy has so many accounts it is pathetic. But I have noticed some clues to identify him everytime.

First off, the unusual amount of posts for a regular member is red flag #1. Then there is the goofy off the wall stuff about weird fetishes and alot of homerotic references. But the kicker is reading further into his reviews. He does a decent job of sounding legit, but you will notice that all of the reviews will just be echoing comments of other mongers about a particular girl. Or he will review a streetwalker or bookstore girl that apparently only worked one day and only saw him, cause nobody else has ever even seen a glimpse of her. The troll is also on every thread. Most of us here have a particular niche and stick mainly in our area of preference, ex. Bookstore guys, AMP guys, streetwalker guys and so on. The troll will post a lot on all of these as if there are 36 hours in a day. I took admins advice and just started ignoring every member that fell into any of these categories. So I could never tell you if pang was him or not, after a paragraph into his 7th post in 3 days I just assumed he was be. S. And never read another word. And oh yeah, he drives a truck and always mentions hopping into it to head to an AMP, an adult bookstore, a street in the zone, a motel off capital, you get my drift?

Good luck out there.

Chavez (bookstore guy).

[Member #5959]

Good work. I think you're onto something.

I had caught on long ago, but got into trouble with admin for busting him a couple of times. It used to piss me off a little because so many newbies were confused and heading out on snipe hunts and such. But the more I think about it, admin was right. Best thing to do is just ignore him and let the noobs figure it out for themselves. And he is not just major and pantyhose either, this guy has so many accounts it is pathetic. But I have noticed some clues to identify him everytime.

First off, the unusual amount of posts for a regular member is red flag #1. Then there is the goofy off the wall stuff about weird fetishes and alot of homerotic references. But the kicker is reading further into his reviews. He does a decent job of sounding legit, but you will notice that all of the reviews will just be echoing comments of other mongers about a particular girl. Or he will review a streetwalker or bookstore girl that apparently only worked one day and only saw him, cause nobody else has ever even seen a glimpse of her. The troll is also on every thread. Most of us here have a particular niche and stick mainly in our area of preference, ex. Bookstore guys, AMP guys, streetwalker guys and so on. The troll will post a lot on all of these as if there are 36 hours in a day. I took admins advice and just started ignoring every member that fell into any of these categories. So I could never tell you if pang was him or not, after a paragraph into his 7th post in 3 days I just assumed he was be. S. And never read another word. And oh yeah, he drives a truck and always mentions hopping into it to head to an AMP, an adult bookstore, a street in the zone, a motel off capital, you get my drift?

Good luck out there.

Chavez (bookstore guy).

[Purple45]

Good work. I think you're onto something.

I'll follow and say that I believe Pang is not related to Panty or Major. Pang got banned after an argument with PleasureCum on the Durham board. I do believe that NCPantyHose2, MajorSlowCum and maybe PleasureCum (banned) are all the same person.

Everybody likes a good laugh sometimes but when the truth is twisted or a post is purely fabricated or a member is harassed and all for a selfish amusement then this is member drama. The board doesn't need these antics. Panty and Major have had credible posts in the past but when games begin then the reader can't decipher on what is a credible post from what is a prank or a jab to get under people's skin. IMO this is childish behavior especially on a board where supposedly men help other men save time and resources seeking legitimate ladies offering memorable dreams from those ladies who don't.

[Kurt308]

Good work. I think you're onto something.

Not vouching for Ncpanyhose2 but after his review of the lip action at Knightdale had me making my 2 visit. I had a similar experience but a little more BBBJTC cim with spit action. From what the girl told me she was leaving that day and wouldn't return until late Feburary and wouldn't be returning to that location. So Ncpanyhose2 might not be far from the truth at least on this post.

[PleasureSeeker]

Now, both MajorSlowCum and NcPantyHose2 quit posting on Sep 10th 2015 and Sep 11th 2015 respectively and both returned posting Feb 8th 2016 and Feb 10th 2016 respectively. It's also funny how often they have both referenced PangShalom, just about every time, since they have returned to posting again. Personally, I believe both Major and Panty are the same member and now I have to wonder what their connection to Pang is (same member?).

I didn't mind Pang because he seemed legit in that the experiences did occur even though the details were sometimes "colorful" to help build the story. I do not care for Major and Panty because they both often post crap for their own entertainment; watching the board responses and sending members and guests on wild pootang chases.

09-10-15.

02-10-16.

02-12-16.

02-14-16.

09-11-15.

02-09-16.

02-10-16.

02-11-16.

Good work. I think you're onto something.

[Purple45]

Now, both MajorSlowCum and NcPantyHose2 quit posting on Sep 10th 2015 and Sep 11th 2015 respectively and both returned posting Feb 8th 2016 and Feb 10th 2016 respectively. It's also funny how often they have both referenced PangShalom, just about every time, since they have returned to posting again. Personally, I believe both Major and Panty are the same member and now I have to wonder what their connection to Pang is (same member?).

I didn't mind Pang because he seemed legit in that the experiences did occur even though the details were sometimes "colorful" to help build the story. I do not care for Major and Panty because they both often post crap for their own entertainment; watching the board responses and sending members and guests on wild pootang chases.

09-10-15.

Had a really good time at that yucca place in carey. Got happy joy fun the other morning. It is indeed the new place for action in the triangle. Rubbed all over and it best rub ever got. Even better than the famous Mimi on capitale.

02-10-16.

Interesting. Sounds like that pang dude.

02-12-16.

Will miss poor pang and his long and unbelievable stories. He use to email me whole chapters that I would read before lights out. Guy did some very risky things. To much gay stories sometimes. But everybody has there demons. I wish him well.

02-14-16.

And that "thick and tasty" means she-meat. Beware of some of those BP gals. They ain't really gals once they lift that skirt! At least according to Pang.

09-11-15.

Oh I think a vast majority of guys on the adult bookstore thread would pay big money ($40 in their minds) to hit that up. She looks perfect for their dirty booth action and stained sofa gangbangs LOL. In fact looks like she just came from there! LOL.

02-09-16.

Agreed man, Phang is a pussy lickin machine. Don't know why so many comrades dog on him. His advice has always been spot on and he has saved me from hooking with some negative shit. Give Phang credit. He is the real deal. Period. He has earned senior status.

02-10-16.

ILoveDeams; first off thanks Pang for your review on her and TOFTT.

YES, thanks Pang as well. He got me more prime pussy tan anyone else on this board despite peoples concerns on his truthfullness or possible exaggeration of sexual encounters. My dick has been rock hard the last six months thanks to him.

02-11-16.

Nice. Me to. Between this and Pangs cock throbbing dreams I am all juiced out tonight. Need to run to Walgreens for some more tissue and vaseline.

[MajorSlowCum]

So spot on. The only thing I would add is any Indian combos = black.

And that "thick and tasty" means she-meat. Beware of some of those BP gals. They ain't really gals once they lift that skirt! At least according to Pang.

[Monfortu]

LMAO love it! Now if we could only print this on some flyers and hand a copy to each provider when going over the menu. Honey any negotiations will be based on this Back Page Constitution.

So spot on. The only thing I would add is any Indian combos = black.

[XHippie]

Credit goes to Josephs from Fayetteville forums for this. I thought it was way too funny so putting it out here for you guys:

Frequently, an escort uses codewords to mask their perceived inadequacies by transforming them into an asset. Often we are asked, what does this mean or is there a glossary or dictionary, in reference to these terms, abbreviations, and acronyms.

BBW = fat.

Voluptuous = fat.

Curvy = fat.

Curvaceous = fat.

Thick = fat.

Rubenesque = fat.

Womanly = fat.

Hourglass = fat.

Supersized = fat.

Pic of face only? = fat.

Pic of body under bedsheet? = fat.

Gives bra size only? = fat.

Busty = either saggy or fat.

Naturally busty = saggy and fat.

Real woman = saggy, fat and ugly.

Slim = no boobs.

Svelte = no boobs.

Slender = no boobs.

Dancer's body = no boobs.

Runner = no boobs.

Spinner = no boobs.

Yoga = no boobs.

Bombshell = fake boobs.

Baywatch = fake boobs.

Playboy = fake boobs.

Model = fake boobs.

Brazilian = black.

Butterscotch = black.

Caramel = black.

Chocolate = black.

Creole = black.

Cuban = black.

Dominican = black.

Ebony = black.

Egyptian = black.

Eritrean = black.

Ethiopian = black.

Exotic = black.

Hawaiian = black.

Mahogany = black.

Mocha = black.

Mulatto = black.

Nubian = black.

Mixed = black.

Mature = old.

Courtesan = old.

Gracious = old.

Refined = old.

Elegant = old.

Classic = old.

Conservative = old.

Original = old.

Age = generally add a few years, here are some frequent exceptions:

College Student = late 20's.

Just turned 18 = mid 20's.

19 = possible jailbait.

21 = late 20's.

28 = late 30's.

Intelligent = brunette.

Sorority Girl = blonde.

Selective = overpriced.

Exclusive = very overpriced.

Classy = can't afford lingerie.

Freaky = doesn't shower between clients.

Nasty = doesn't shower at all.

Upscale = snooty personality.

All American = all trailer trash.

Princess = I have an attitude problem.

Party girl = I'll be high on drugs.

On fire = active herpes outbreak.

Las Vegas = Bellagio prices, Motel 6 service.

Coed = plain looking with acne problem.

Girl next door = looks like the boy next door.

Goddess = If you believe this is me in the pictures.

Real Doll = Bubba brings you an inflatable doll, no refunds.

Energetic = methamphetamine addict.

Down to earth = boring.

College graduate = sleeps with professors.

Open minded = openly accepts tips.

Two girl show = one girl shows, one girl steals your stuff.

New to business = changed name.

New to area = changed name and moved across bay.

Only here for a few days = staying until bad reviews run me out of town.

Up to an hour = 1 shot and she's gone.

Discreet = I check your I'd.

Discrete = I can't spell.

Advance notice required = you'll never get a hold of me.

Seeks generous gentleman = ROB for the elderly.

Seeks generous businessmen = ROB for out-of-towners.

Once in a lifetime experience = you won't repeat.

I love what I do = I'm desperate for clients.

Satisfaction guaranteed = I guarantee I'm getting your money.

Snowbunny = white girl with a black pimp.

Available 24/7 = my pimp doesn't let me sleep.

AD WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS = my pimp can't type.

AD wRiTTeN iN mIxED cAsE = my pimp is learning how to type.

You won't be sorry = You'll be disappointed.

You won't be disappointed = You'll be sorry.

CMT = good massage, bad sex.

FBSM = bad massage, good sex.

What an ad DOESN'T say, is also a source of information:

Unless specified, you can assume:

Hair color = brown.

Hair length = to shoulder.

Eye color = brown.

Age = mature.

Height = short.

Weight = heavy.

Cup size = small.

Measurements = large.

LMAO love it! Now if we could only print this on some flyers and hand a copy to each provider when going over the menu. Honey any negotiations will be based on this Back Page Constitution.

[Ronnor]

If you're a seller and you quote a price for a product or service then that's all your getting from me if I decide to be a buyer. If you expect more than ask for more. I will decide then if I'm still a buyer. I tip waitress and bartenders because their salary isn't in the published price of the establishment. They work for tips but I won't tip much if anything for poor service. The last provider I tipped I ask for basic FS but ended up stuffing my cock in her ass. She well earned that tip. Otherwise as another member also suggested, I will write a review if their performance is well above average. They need to know this upfront for logical reasons.

Play safe PH.

You could have just stopped at "Nuts".

[Purple Helmet]

While some people may not want to pay a service provider extra for their service. Let's keep it real. You don't want to pay extra for your phone, electric, water or cable bills. But when you have a human being providing a manual labor service it's a nice gesture to show a little extra as you can. Non Tippers and low ballers are usually the ones who demand more (Even in the restaurant business) Especially in this line of work. Low rate girls have to see more johns to make money which will make them a high volume provider. Higher rate GOOD providers want to put more quality into their service and have higher expenses due to wanting to keep their physical appearance up, maintain nice comfortable atmosphere and ensuring that you have a good time. However if none of this matters to you and you enjoy Skanks at motel 6 that are on drugs, Forget everything I said.

If you're a seller and you quote a price for a product or service then that's all your getting from me if I decide to be a buyer. If you expect more than ask for more. I will decide then if I'm still a buyer. I tip waitress and bartenders because their salary isn't in the published price of the establishment. They work for tips but I won't tip much if anything for poor service. The last provider I tipped I ask for basic FS but ended up stuffing my cock in her ass. She well earned that tip. Otherwise as another member also suggested, I will write a review if their performance is well above average. They need to know this upfront for logical reasons.

Play safe PH.

[MrSmithwick]

While some people may not want to pay a service provider extra for their service. Let's keep it real. You don't want to pay extra for your phone, electric, water or cable bills. But when you have a human being providing a manual labor service it's a nice gesture to show a little extra as you can. Non Tippers and low ballers are usually the ones who demand more (Even in the restaurant business) Especially in this line of work. Low rate girls have to see more johns to make money which will make them a high volume provider. Higher rate GOOD providers want to put more quality into their service and have higher expenses due to wanting to keep their physical appearance up, maintain nice comfortable atmosphere and ensuring that you have a good time. However if none of this matters to you and you enjoy Skanks at motel 6 that are on drugs, Forget everything I said.

Tl; dr Don't tip service providers. If you like the service give good reviews and go back, but don't give more cash. Negotiate with cash in hand and show them the cash. Never take more than you want to spend and know your min / max prices. Always negotiate with your clothes on and be willing to walk away. Negotiation get's easier when you are in the room or a regular because you can literally show her the cash she's loosing. Be strong in the face of being called cheap or any other name and don't get suckered into spending more money than you should.

When I was in college I dated a chick who was a waitress and constantly complaining about how black people were lousy tippers. In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was getting close to 10% from them and that she was a terrible waitress to them. Anyways one night we were at a nice Japanese restaurant so I thought I'd prove a point by leaving a good tip, somewhere in the 30% range because the food and service were remarkable. The owner, who also brought the food to us, ran me down in the parking lot. He explained that you should never pay someone extra for doing their job and that as a business owner he had priced his menu appropriately. He also clued me in on the fact that for a business owner the best tips are coming back and spreading the word about how good your experience was. Over the years I've learned that for the most part tipping actually decreases quality of service, especially here in the US where it has become expected no matter how poor service is. Heck everyone wants a tip these days. There's no reason to ever tip a SP, especially if you don't want the price to go up. If you're that wowed by her then shout it from the hills or make sure you visit her again. Trust me, giving them more will generally not improve your experience or make them more likely to see you again because most guys walking through the door are trying to win them over with money and there's always some fool with more money than you. Unless you give some ridiculous amount a tip won't even set you apart. Hell I'd go as far as saying stop tipping in your day to day life and if you must then keep it to 10% at most. Even "fancy" restaurants in NY are starting to do away with tipping in favor of raising menu prices and reducing staff. 1 hostess to 10 table ratio or a 1 server to 3 table ratio often lead to a poor experience for customers who don't look like the type to tip well and at many restaurants a waitress plays a very small role in your dining experience anyway.

Loosely related to tipping, carry exact change. I've noticed a lot of providers posting odd amounts like 125 or 155. I started walking out on one who decided she wouldn't accept 120 because I said I only had 20's on me. After the session she told me most guys only have 20's and she can make an extra 15 because most don't walk away.

All good negotiations start with you knowing your bottom and top price. Since this is a cash business, never bring more than your top price because you will probably spend it and leave your debit card at home. Since a lot of providers in Raleigh are pretty similar in looks these days there's nothing wrong with throwing a price out into the wind, some will not respond, some will say no but someone will say yes. If you text a chick and say 100 for the hh and she responds with 140 then tell her you have 120 or send a picture of the 120, most will bite and the ones who won't usually aren't worth it.

Once you get in the room cash is king and unless the provider has guys coming in and out (avoid those anyway) it's usually better to make 20-40 less off you than to have to wait for another guy. In these situations your willingness to walk away is usually helpful. It's amazing how many times a provider has told me she's worth it or that I should go find a cheap girl only to say okay as I was walking out saying I'd try to schedule an appointment at some other time when I had more. Taking the cash out has a strong psychological effect because it let's them know what's on the table. Also, be flexible. By flexible I mean saying ok I've got 100 so let's do 20 minutes (most who negotiate don't clockwatch) or say how about we do oral only (halfway though you can say you've got to try the coochie and most happily spread it open). Also know when not to quibble on price. If your max is 140, you came in at 80 and she countered at 140 yes you might can get 100 but 120 is fine too.

When you do negotiate, be polite and be presentable. The ones I've found to be most amenable are usually 1) worn out from seeing guys who stink, are aggressive and so on so the thought of a guy who smells nice and won't bang them out is tolerable 2) they want regulars and you being polite and presentable fit the mold 3) you're their type so they'd have sex with you anyway and the cash is a bonus.

For higher dollar ones I've had more luck either negotiating extras or not mentioning price until I get to the room. "Higher end" non agency providers usually have a set price and are unlikely to budge unless you're a regular. That said after you've seen one of them 2-3 times telling them that you enjoy their company and want it to be a regular thing can usually get 250 down to 160-180 if you've been decent to them because it's less work for them and something secure when other options dry up.

Remember you're not negotiating to get over on her, you're negotiating in order to get a reasonable price. Especially new guys pay attention to my final words. Spending more money does not make them like you, find you more attractive, want to date you or even in many cases remember you. Paying more makes you nothing more than the guy who spends more. You're never going to buy their affection or love, just their time and adjusted hourly rate over 160 is more than enough for anyone's time.

If anyone has more questions or needs more guidance feel free to pm me.

[MrSmithwick]

If you have some good regular providers. Same rule applies. I take good care of one of my UTR girls. I don't go overboard but I do something nice every time. The reality of the matter is when I contact her, she immediately responds, there's no BS and we get together with no hiccups. Good providers really DO NOT like cheap ass guys. In my opinion, If you come with some cheap disrespectful negotiation, you automatically set a bad tone and will probably get bad service for doing so.

Great post! I would like to give one exception. I find extra tipping goes a long way at most AMPs, espesially if you want to be or are a regular there. Most AMPs girls talk to each other about their customers, since they have nothing better to do when business is slow.

If you are a good tipper they will always take care of you and give you what you want. I have had girls know exactly what I like seeing them for the first time if I had seen someone else there and tipped well. I can't tell you how many times I get extra time or services for a little extra tipping. I usually get what I want without asking including extra time, services, and multiple girls.