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02-15-16 15:52 #93Senior Member

Posts: 153Knightdale
Not vouching for Ncpanyhose2 but after his review of the lip action at Knightdale had me making my 2 visit. I had a similar experience but a little more BBBJTC cim with spit action. From what the girl told me she was leaving that day and wouldn't return until late Feburary and wouldn't be returning to that location. So Ncpanyhose2 might not be far from the truth at least on this post.
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02-15-16 13:57 #92Senior Member

Posts: 1675Nice are&the!
Good work. I think you're onto something.
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02-15-16 13:28 #91Banned Member

Posts: 759Members with Several Profiles
Now, both MajorSlowCum and NcPantyHose2 quit posting on Sep 10th 2015 and Sep 11th 2015 respectively and both returned posting Feb 8th 2016 and Feb 10th 2016 respectively. It's also funny how often they have both referenced PangShalom, just about every time, since they have returned to posting again. Personally, I believe both Major and Panty are the same member and now I have to wonder what their connection to Pang is (same member?).
I didn't mind Pang because he seemed legit in that the experiences did occur even though the details were sometimes "colorful" to help build the story. I do not care for Major and Panty because they both often post crap for their own entertainment; watching the board responses and sending members and guests on wild pootang chases.
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02-15-16 00:31 #90Senior Member

Posts: 221Meaty
And that "thick and tasty" means she-meat. Beware of some of those BP gals. They ain't really gals once they lift that skirt! At least according to Pang.
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02-13-16 20:20 #89Senior Member

Posts: 195So spot on. The only thing I would add is any Indian combos = black.
Originally Posted by XHippie
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02-12-16 23:08 #88Senior Member

Posts: 1533The damn truth!
LMAO love it! Now if we could only print this on some flyers and hand a copy to each provider when going over the menu. Honey any negotiations will be based on this Back Page Constitution.
Originally Posted by Jan2050
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02-12-16 13:32 #87Senior Member

Posts: 576Welcome Back PH!
You could have just stopped at "Nuts".
Originally Posted by PurpleHelmet
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02-11-16 18:19 #86Senior Member

Posts: 140Nuts
If you're a seller and you quote a price for a product or service then that's all your getting from me if I decide to be a buyer. If you expect more than ask for more. I will decide then if I'm still a buyer. I tip waitress and bartenders because their salary isn't in the published price of the establishment. They work for tips but I won't tip much if anything for poor service. The last provider I tipped I ask for basic FS but ended up stuffing my cock in her ass. She well earned that tip. Otherwise as another member also suggested, I will write a review if their performance is well above average. They need to know this upfront for logical reasons.
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Play safe PH.
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02-11-16 13:21 #85Senior Member

Posts: 1625The problem with Lousy Tippers
While some people may not want to pay a service provider extra for their service. Let's keep it real. You don't want to pay extra for your phone, electric, water or cable bills. But when you have a human being providing a manual labor service it's a nice gesture to show a little extra as you can. Non Tippers and low ballers are usually the ones who demand more (Even in the restaurant business) Especially in this line of work. Low rate girls have to see more johns to make money which will make them a high volume provider. Higher rate GOOD providers want to put more quality into their service and have higher expenses due to wanting to keep their physical appearance up, maintain nice comfortable atmosphere and ensuring that you have a good time. However if none of this matters to you and you enjoy Skanks at motel 6 that are on drugs, Forget everything I said.
Originally Posted by JoeLooking
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02-11-16 10:49 #84Senior Member

Posts: 1625Tipping goes a long way
If you have some good regular providers. Same rule applies. I take good care of one of my UTR girls. I don't go overboard but I do something nice every time. The reality of the matter is when I contact her, she immediately responds, there's no BS and we get together with no hiccups. Good providers really DO NOT like cheap ass guys. In my opinion, If you come with some cheap disrespectful negotiation, you automatically set a bad tone and will probably get bad service for doing so.
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02-11-16 09:28 #83Senior Member

Posts: 409Tipping at AMPs
Great post! I would like to give one exception. I find extra tipping goes a long way at most AMPs, espesially if you want to be or are a regular there. Most AMPs girls talk to each other about their customers, since they have nothing better to do when business is slow.
If you are a good tipper they will always take care of you and give you what you want. I have had girls know exactly what I like seeing them for the first time if I had seen someone else there and tipped well. I can't tell you how many times I get extra time or services for a little extra tipping. I usually get what I want without asking including extra time, services, and multiple girls.
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02-11-16 07:28 #82Banned Member

Posts: 97Make your own rates
I think negotiating is a bad idea. It's too much talking back and forth. Here's what I do, I don't even look at a providers rates, if I like her I make my own rates and that's it. If I think a girl is hot, I tell her she's hot and I tell her what I have to spend and that's that. It's really easy. Going back and forth is a waste of time.
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02-11-16 05:05 #81Senior Member

Posts: 1291On Tipping and Negotiating
Tl; dr Don't tip service providers. If you like the service give good reviews and go back, but don't give more cash. Negotiate with cash in hand and show them the cash. Never take more than you want to spend and know your min / max prices. Always negotiate with your clothes on and be willing to walk away. Negotiation get's easier when you are in the room or a regular because you can literally show her the cash she's loosing. Be strong in the face of being called cheap or any other name and don't get suckered into spending more money than you should.
When I was in college I dated a chick who was a waitress and constantly complaining about how black people were lousy tippers. In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was getting close to 10% from them and that she was a terrible waitress to them. Anyways one night we were at a nice Japanese restaurant so I thought I'd prove a point by leaving a good tip, somewhere in the 30% range because the food and service were remarkable. The owner, who also brought the food to us, ran me down in the parking lot. He explained that you should never pay someone extra for doing their job and that as a business owner he had priced his menu appropriately. He also clued me in on the fact that for a business owner the best tips are coming back and spreading the word about how good your experience was. Over the years I've learned that for the most part tipping actually decreases quality of service, especially here in the US where it has become expected no matter how poor service is. Heck everyone wants a tip these days. There's no reason to ever tip a SP, especially if you don't want the price to go up. If you're that wowed by her then shout it from the hills or make sure you visit her again. Trust me, giving them more will generally not improve your experience or make them more likely to see you again because most guys walking through the door are trying to win them over with money and there's always some fool with more money than you. Unless you give some ridiculous amount a tip won't even set you apart. Hell I'd go as far as saying stop tipping in your day to day life and if you must then keep it to 10% at most. Even "fancy" restaurants in NY are starting to do away with tipping in favor of raising menu prices and reducing staff. 1 hostess to 10 table ratio or a 1 server to 3 table ratio often lead to a poor experience for customers who don't look like the type to tip well and at many restaurants a waitress plays a very small role in your dining experience anyway.
Loosely related to tipping, carry exact change. I've noticed a lot of providers posting odd amounts like 125 or 155. I started walking out on one who decided she wouldn't accept 120 because I said I only had 20's on me. After the session she told me most guys only have 20's and she can make an extra 15 because most don't walk away.
All good negotiations start with you knowing your bottom and top price. Since this is a cash business, never bring more than your top price because you will probably spend it and leave your debit card at home. Since a lot of providers in Raleigh are pretty similar in looks these days there's nothing wrong with throwing a price out into the wind, some will not respond, some will say no but someone will say yes. If you text a chick and say 100 for the hh and she responds with 140 then tell her you have 120 or send a picture of the 120, most will bite and the ones who won't usually aren't worth it.
Once you get in the room cash is king and unless the provider has guys coming in and out (avoid those anyway) it's usually better to make 20-40 less off you than to have to wait for another guy. In these situations your willingness to walk away is usually helpful. It's amazing how many times a provider has told me she's worth it or that I should go find a cheap girl only to say okay as I was walking out saying I'd try to schedule an appointment at some other time when I had more. Taking the cash out has a strong psychological effect because it let's them know what's on the table. Also, be flexible. By flexible I mean saying ok I've got 100 so let's do 20 minutes (most who negotiate don't clockwatch) or say how about we do oral only (halfway though you can say you've got to try the coochie and most happily spread it open). Also know when not to quibble on price. If your max is 140, you came in at 80 and she countered at 140 yes you might can get 100 but 120 is fine too.
When you do negotiate, be polite and be presentable. The ones I've found to be most amenable are usually 1) worn out from seeing guys who stink, are aggressive and so on so the thought of a guy who smells nice and won't bang them out is tolerable 2) they want regulars and you being polite and presentable fit the mold 3) you're their type so they'd have sex with you anyway and the cash is a bonus.
For higher dollar ones I've had more luck either negotiating extras or not mentioning price until I get to the room. "Higher end" non agency providers usually have a set price and are unlikely to budge unless you're a regular. That said after you've seen one of them 2-3 times telling them that you enjoy their company and want it to be a regular thing can usually get 250 down to 160-180 if you've been decent to them because it's less work for them and something secure when other options dry up.
Remember you're not negotiating to get over on her, you're negotiating in order to get a reasonable price. Especially new guys pay attention to my final words. Spending more money does not make them like you, find you more attractive, want to date you or even in many cases remember you. Paying more makes you nothing more than the guy who spends more. You're never going to buy their affection or love, just their time and adjusted hourly rate over 160 is more than enough for anyone's time.
If anyone has more questions or needs more guidance feel free to pm me.
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02-11-16 05:01 #80Senior Member

Posts: 1625This is why.
I don't post reviews and if I do, it's generic. Also, seeing BP girls is a damn crapshoot. To be fair, many guys are jerks to these girls and they are jaded from the negatives of this industry. Sadly, USASG contributes to the negative side of this business. Everyone gets on here and say's "Negotiate" "She did it for 100 bucks" "She let me go bareback" "She swallowed my nut" Etc etc etc. Then you have some dipshit that calls a girl up and requests the exact same thing that another guy got and to be honest, it's effing annoying to these girls. There are a lot of VERY bad providers out there. Some mediocre, some ok and some REALLY good. Now, if you want to play the game, play it right and have very good results, you're going to have to stop slumming at some point. Backpage is the "Big lots" "Dollar Tree" or "Dollar General" of the industry. Sure you might find a good dig, but seriously anything really good RARELY comes from BP. If you ever took a moment and see what most of these girls have to deal with, you would understand why they may do things a certain way or why they may increase rates or even why they turn into a beotch. Take a look at yourself in the mirror, are you just one of the many reasons good providers go bad? If you answered yes, go find another hobby. Thank you! Moving forward, I'm not suggesting you give top dollar to every provider, I'm simply saying that if you have a good provider that is well reviewed, make sure you take good care of her and most likely she will take good care of you and probably relax on her "rules" This is why I do not disclose providers I see, They like to confidentiality I bring as well as generosity. Service goes a long way if you aren't a disrespectful scumbag. For example, I see a few UTR ladies and get treated right. I've even done some nice things for them (Flowers, small gifts, Victorias Secret Gift cards, etc) And let me tell you, a GOOD provider loves this shit and will take super good care of you. A good deal of great providers have spent many days of the summer at my residence enjoying the pool, game room and home theater room. It's been almost a home away from home for them. Call me crazy, but Hell, I just allow them to get away from the BS, relax and enjoy themselves. Somewhere along the line, they remember Smithwick is a cool dude and they return the favor. Not everyone has that luxury but the point is, if you want GOOD service, you need to find yourself better providers. (hint. They usually aren't on BP) You need to save up your money, quit spending it on shitty providers and do little small things for them. Even a sweet Greeting card works. Remember gentlemen, they are playing the game with you, if you have game and bring something in return to woo them and make them feel special, you will get a lot further in your hobby. If you want a robot, machine or the like, they sell those online. "Fleshlite, blow up dolls, rubber pussies, etc" This is just my experience with 18 years in.
1: Don't post reviews. Unless you absolutely have to.
2: Don't negotiate with GOOD providers. Allow them to treat you.
3: Don't come with bad hygiene.
4: Don't Request Unsafe activities.
5: Be a gentleman.
If you do not have the funds to visit with a GOOD provider, stay home and jerk off to porn while saving your cash. It's easier, cheaper and gets you the same result. Do not try to negotiate a GOOD provider. It's insulting. I'm almost positive that a good deal of you here are in professions where you are selling a good product or service and equally get pissed off when a customer walks because your price is too high or you get upset when they want to negotiate with you because you know your profit is going to shrink.
Here's a thought. Just quit seeing bad, low rent BP girls, change your strategy. If you take 6 mediocre non GFE sessions with susie rubber holder at 100 each. Kill off 4 of them and get 2 VERY good sessions with a GOOD provider. Refuse to ever see Susie Rubber Holder and See Amber Awesome Ass for 300 each session. I promise you that you will get MORE mileage out of good sessions. I've been down this road, I did the metrics of the entire game and while I use to see cheap girls, I very very seldom do it now. Now, I'll probably get flamed for all this, but at this point, I don't guess it matters. Stay safe out there.
Originally Posted by FatLever
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02-10-16 13:47 #79Regular Member

Posts: 22Funny!
LOL! - This guy nailed it!
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Why? You don't point young girls to sites where they are reviewed. Seriously, athletes can't handle criticism about themselves. We got middle-age people on here who are so sensitive, we get into a huge flame war spanning pages about trivial shit. I doubt many of us would handle it if we were called small dick, ugly, fat, etc. Is it any wonder a young girl loses her head over a little criticism.



