Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Joseph1955]

This is an extension of a drunken argument with a few mongering friends. So bear with me a bit.

We all agree prices have gone up a lot (at least asking prices) for the same or sometimes much lamer service. So why exactly is that happening?

The simplest answer comes down to supply and demand.

On the demand end, for a lot of messed up reasons the civilian dating market in 2026 is seriously dysfunctional. Especially in a city like Seattle where it is hard to make new friends in the best of times. And there are a lot more people here than there were in the past.

On the supply end, we have a number of things that have happened in the past ten years:

1. TRB being shut down.

2. FOSTA-SESTA being passed.

3. The other board essentially become a corrupt scam.

4. Covid.

No single item in the above list made a substantial difference, but all of them together combined basically made it much more difficult and much less appealing for new providers (especially new younger providers) to break into the market here.

So you have more mongers and fewer providers in that pool. So it is hardly surprising that prices have gone up and providers are skating by giving shit service.

What really nails it is that while prices for indy providers has gone through the roof, the prices you pay at AMPs are only slightly more than you'd expect to pay 20 years ago. At the same time, the number of AMPs has exploded in the Puget Sound area. And there are many more apartment incalls with a couple of Asian women of varying and often questionable vintage offering basic services than are obvious from the ads on STG and Bedpage. So there is a lot more supply on that end of the market.

So what I'm trying to say is that there are only two ways to bring rates for providers down:

1. Get more girls in the business.

2. Get fewer guys mongering.

All of above is true. But prices of these sorts of services is highly dependent on local climate. And Seattle climate SUCKS because we have far too much dumb money here. Guys that make a lot, but lack the experience or ability to properly assign value to benefits. So they just throw more money at it, as that's what they've got.

Inflation is directly related to the money supply, generally following the principle that when the money supply grows faster than the economy's output, the value of money falls and prices rise, often described as "too much money chasing too few goods". We've got wayyyyy too much dumb money doing the chasing here, driving prices up and quality down.

[GoaThillBilly]

Go to the Tryst website, 500 for a full safety date? WTF is wrong with people?

https://tryst.link/escort/tayyknoxx206

Plus, the providers posted rates are at least 100% more there than even on the GPS board. Apparently their managers prescribe to the PT Barnum school of thought, "There's a sucker born every minute".

[Donato21]

I deleted my original account back in Feb. and then opened a new one shortly thereafter. Didn't interact with anyone, post reviews or anything. Just a lurker so I could see what providers were advertising, etc. Logged in this morning and my account was banned due to "having multiple accounts". Weird. At this point I have the 3 providers I see regularly on my phone, so I don't need TNA. Just strange.

Meanwhile other folks here are posting about having multiple parallel accounts. I'm guessing you didn't use a VPN, maybe even used the same browser for both accounts.

[Marko Ramius]

This is an extension of a drunken argument with a few mongering friends. So bear with me a bit.

We all agree prices have gone up a lot (at least asking prices) for the same or sometimes much lamer service. So why exactly is that happening?

The simplest answer comes down to supply and demand.

On the demand end, for a lot of messed up reasons the civilian dating market in 2026 is seriously dysfunctional. Especially in a city like Seattle where it is hard to make new friends in the best of times. And there are a lot more people here than there were in the past.

On the supply end, we have a number of things that have happened in the past ten years:

1. TRB being shut down.

2. FOSTA-SESTA being passed.

3. The other board essentially become a corrupt scam.

4. Covid.

No single item in the above list made a substantial difference, but all of them together combined basically made it much more difficult and much less appealing for new providers (especially new younger providers) to break into the market here.

So you have more mongers and fewer providers in that pool. So it is hardly surprising that prices have gone up and providers are skating by giving shit service.

What really nails it is that while prices for indy providers has gone through the roof, the prices you pay at AMPs are only slightly more than you'd expect to pay 20 years ago. At the same time, the number of AMPs has exploded in the Puget Sound area. And there are many more apartment incalls with a couple of Asian women of varying and often questionable vintage offering basic services than are obvious from the ads on STG and Bedpage. So there is a lot more supply on that end of the market.

So what I'm trying to say is that there are only two ways to bring rates for providers down:

1. Get more girls in the business.

2. Get fewer guys mongering.

[Regularity]

I deleted my original account back in Feb. and then opened a new one shortly thereafter. Didn't interact with anyone, post reviews or anything. Just a lurker so I could see what providers were advertising, etc. Logged in this morning and my account was banned due to "having multiple accounts". Weird. At this point I have the 3 providers I see regularly on my phone, so I don't need TNA. Just strange.

Yeah, I deleted an account there years ago. When I set up a new account, the same thing happened to me. I was banned due to having multiple accounts. I had to use a different computer to set up my current account.

[DrtyHarry]

She is advertising on Craigslist.

Hah. Real classy.

[BigPurpleSnake]

Saw this from a provider we ALL know gives it up bare (YMMV). She is talking in circles and got some pretty direct responses. She then ended the thread with "I do have marketing skills read between the lines boys".

That response was on March 13 (today) - I bet her inbox is full with Chumps who think they are the only one she is going to fuck. Those idiots deserve to lose their money.

https://www.tnaboard.com/community/t...ctive.3235256/

She is advertising on Craigslist.

[HelloThar]

It's all sort of funny to me because I really don't play with providers directly from TNA. Providers whom I've met on that site mostly came to me via other venues (Aurora being the biggest, the others from other ad sites). The few times in the past five years I have shopped on TNA it's for providers who don't require all of the screening, verification, recommendations, first born child, etc. The last provider I found specifically on TNA was last October when I hit-up DahliaBabyy for a quick HH session. Contact, verify services and rate and I was out the door. Painless, fast, easy and unencumbered by all of this references bullshit. I mean, I get why providers do it but that's not how I want to do it so I don't. And so I haven't needed to. I have zero need for their system. Right now I have two regular girls who I rotate and both are actively on TNA. They aren't part of the discussion-posting crowd, they stay in the background and just do their thing, stay quiet and make their money away from drama. One of those lives in Seattle area but refuses to advertise here, only using the TNA for Portland and Idaho. She told me that the Seattle men of TNA are "weird". So the wild thing to me is that it seems that a small number in that community believe that they can and are able to control and tend the gate for the rest of us, LOL. That's been proven many times that they can't. I've never needed any of their references or other BS. The kind of provider who is likely to put me on her DNS list is likely not someone whom i'd be interested to begin with. Lastly, I can say with 100% honesty that I am not interested in seeing any provider who posts regularly in discussions. Most of those seem too prone to drama, though that could just be me. Assuming a lot of you guys are the same?

The other board is basically a social media site. There is zero upside to having discussions there and all the best ones stay away from the drama and focus on what really matters: good service and getting paid.

[DrtyHarry]

It's all sort of funny to me because I really don't play with providers directly from TNA. Providers whom I've met on that site mostly came to me via other venues (Aurora being the biggest, the others from other ad sites). The few times in the past five years I have shopped on TNA it's for providers who don't require all of the screening, verification, recommendations, first born child, etc. The last provider I found specifically on TNA was last October when I hit-up DahliaBabyy for a quick HH session. Contact, verify services and rate and I was out the door. Painless, fast, easy and unencumbered by all of this references bullshit. I mean, I get why providers do it but that's not how I want to do it so I don't. And so I haven't needed to. I have zero need for their system. Right now I have two regular girls who I rotate and both are actively on TNA. They aren't part of the discussion-posting crowd, they stay in the background and just do their thing, stay quiet and make their money away from drama. One of those lives in Seattle area but refuses to advertise here, only using the TNA for Portland and Idaho. She told me that the Seattle men of TNA are "weird". So the wild thing to me is that it seems that a small number in that community believe that they can and are able to control and tend the gate for the rest of us, LOL. That's been proven many times that they can't. I've never needed any of their references or other BS. The kind of provider who is likely to put me on her DNS list is likely not someone whom i'd be interested to begin with. Lastly, I can say with 100% honesty that I am not interested in seeing any provider who posts regularly in discussions. Most of those seem too prone to drama, though that could just be me. Assuming a lot of you guys are the same?

+1 hoballer. That site has an estrogen overload of drama. I mean if I wanted drama, I'd stay home and fuck my wife. These women need to understand that.

[Hoballer]

It's all sort of funny to me because I really don't play with providers directly from TNA. Providers whom I've met on that site mostly came to me via other venues (Aurora being the biggest, the others from other ad sites). The few times in the past five years I have shopped on TNA it's for providers who don't require all of the screening, verification, recommendations, first born child, etc. The last provider I found specifically on TNA was last October when I hit-up DahliaBabyy for a quick HH session. Contact, verify services and rate and I was out the door. Painless, fast, easy and unencumbered by all of this references bullshit. I mean, I get why providers do it but that's not how I want to do it so I don't. And so I haven't needed to. I have zero need for their system. Right now I have two regular girls who I rotate and both are actively on TNA. They aren't part of the discussion-posting crowd, they stay in the background and just do their thing, stay quiet and make their money away from drama. One of those lives in Seattle area but refuses to advertise here, only using the TNA for Portland and Idaho. She told me that the Seattle men of TNA are "weird". So the wild thing to me is that it seems that a small number in that community believe that they can and are able to control and tend the gate for the rest of us, LOL. That's been proven many times that they can't. I've never needed any of their references or other BS. The kind of provider who is likely to put me on her DNS list is likely not someone whom i'd be interested to begin with. Lastly, I can say with 100% honesty that I am not interested in seeing any provider who posts regularly in discussions. Most of those seem too prone to drama, though that could just be me. Assuming a lot of you guys are the same?

About the DNS list. This is why it is important to build (with refs) - 2 or 3 profiles there. I typically have a very clean profile and one that I do not mind if it goes under. The longer acct is active and the longer you have refs on it. The easier it becomes to schedule (with the SPs that actually check refs. Many do not). In short that entire board is drama. The only reason we depend on it is that there is no alternative in this area.

[DrtyHarry]

Saw this from a provider we ALL know gives it up bare (YMMV). She is talking in circles and got some pretty direct responses. She then ended the thread with "I do have marketing skills read between the lines boys".

That response was on March 13 (today) - I bet her inbox is full with Chumps who think they are the only one she is going to fuck. Those idiots deserve to lose their money.

https://www.tnaboard.com/community/t...ctive.3235256/

[DrtyHarry]

Post *****-white knight-dumb ass on the GPS board wrote, "I find it interesting that the dudes speaking up for the other site are ashamed to share their username over there with us here.

If it is all hunky dory legit and innocent why are you ashamed to let people know what you are saying over there.

Not like it is outing your real identity, it's just another profile."

Well genius, just a guess but it might be to keep from being put on DNS by a provider that one <might want to see. The problem is, that most of them can't handle the truth.

I'm a little surprised they are still going full-out on that thread. It's like there are a couple of mentally ill people that are spinning themselves up. For what purpose? The drama seems like it would be crazy making. C'est la vie.

It is interesting. I really can and do understand why providers from TNA care about what is posted about them here. I think there can be some ostracization over in that community. I'm not sure why some hobbyists on that board get so worked-up about being mentioned here, anyone recall how that started? I thought I saw mention quite some time ago of a BBFS allegation on Jonco, something about a provider (s) whispering into someone's ear over here or something or other, would I be correct? If that's the case, how in the hell would anyone even be able to prove that? It's just words at that point. I'm not in the room with he and said provider (s), so how would I nor anyone else know? Lastly, why would I even care? I don't care if JC wraps it up or if he likes to get dirty, good on him for whatever he decides on a consensual date. The only thing which might matter is that he ends-up on some DNS list himself for merely the allegation, which if that's the case shows you how unbalanced providers on that board can be. Assuming my memory is correct in the first place, which it might not be (someone verify?).

But at the end of the day it just doesn't matter. All of the loud protestations from a few are just odd and to draaag it out like that. Do they think that'll make it stop, LOL? Perhaps we all need to meet in the parking lot after school and sort it out or something.

It's BS man. They are literally baiting us to link our USA I'd with TNA. If they had any brains and any idea on how to manager a server. They would be able to link us pretty easily.

About the DNS list. This is why it is important to build (with refs) - 2 or 3 profiles there. I typically have a very clean profile and one that I do not mind if it goes under. The longer acct is active and the longer you have refs on it. The easier it becomes to schedule (with the SPs that actually check refs. Many do not). In short that entire board is drama. The only reason we depend on it is that there is no alternative in this area.

[BayouJ]

I deleted my original account back in Feb. and then opened a new one shortly thereafter. Didn't interact with anyone, post reviews or anything. Just a lurker so I could see what providers were advertising, etc. Logged in this morning and my account was banned due to "having multiple accounts". Weird. At this point I have the 3 providers I see regularly on my phone, so I don't need TNA. Just strange.

[Hoballer]

It is interesting. I really can and do understand why providers from TNA care about what is posted about them here. I think there can be some ostracization over in that community. I'm not sure why some hobbyists on that board get so worked-up about being mentioned here, anyone recall how that started? I thought I saw mention quite some time ago of a BBFS allegation on Jonco, something about a provider (s) whispering into someone's ear over here or something or other, would I be correct? If that's the case, how in the hell would anyone even be able to prove that? It's just words at that point. I'm not in the room with he and said provider (s), so how would I nor anyone else know? Lastly, why would I even care? I don't care if JC wraps it up or if he likes to get dirty, good on him for whatever he decides on a consensual date. The only thing which might matter is that he ends-up on some DNS list himself for merely the allegation, which if that's the case shows you how unbalanced providers on that board can be. Assuming my memory is correct in the first place, which it might not be (someone verify?).

But at the end of the day it just doesn't matter. All of the loud protestations from a few are just odd and to draaag it out like that. Do they think that'll make it stop, LOL? Perhaps we all need to meet in the parking lot after school and sort it out or something.

I'm a little surprised they are still going full-out on that thread. It's like there are a couple of mentally ill people that are spinning themselves up. For what purpose? The drama seems like it would be crazy making. C'est la vie.

[BayouJ]

Post *****-white knight-dumb ass on the GPS board wrote, "I find it interesting that the dudes speaking up for the other site are ashamed to share their username over there with us here.

If it is all hunky dory legit and innocent why are you ashamed to let people know what you are saying over there.

Not like it is outing your real identity, it's just another profile."

Well genius, just a guess but it might be to keep from being put on DNS by a provider that one <might want to see. The problem is, that most of them can't handle the truth.

I'm a little surprised they are still going full-out on that thread. It's like there are a couple of mentally ill people that are spinning themselves up. For what purpose? The drama seems like it would be crazy making. C'est la vie.