The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**YayaGogo** · 12-13-25 21:45

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I obviously can't tell you not to pay these girls 800 for an hour but I will tell you that there are a whole lot of guys (like me) out here that don't have the luxory of casino winnings. So when the girls quote 800 and then get 800 that only reinforces their mindset that they can get crazy money. I started out with SA in 2015 bangin' 18 - 24 yo girls twice a week for 150-200. Then went to 300 in 2022 - 2023. Even at 600 plus a 150 hotel is 750 but a guy has to earn 1000, then get a new paycheck of 750. Do that every week and its $50,000 a year. Just sayin'.

There are girls that will quote an amount and not budge, while many others will start high and settle for a lower amount. There is no way to determine which is which unless you play the game. Girls on SA may go lower if 1) they find you more attractive than the average guy on the site 2) you offer an experience that's more than just meeting in a hotel for a sex for money transaction 3) you will be longer term and not a one or two time thing 4) you have a decent personality and don't come across as creepy 5) they are desperate to pay bills right now 6) any other reason.

I'm on a budget and prefer weekly meets so for those I'm interested in I try to talk them down to $$$ if their starting bid is higher. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't and I never take it personally or begrudge anyone for holding out, it's their decision. There are more than enough on SA that will go $$ or $$ Good luck!

**MmceStep** · 12-13-25 18:59

Originally Posted by LikesGirls [View Original Post]

The girls that quote 800 are not going to sleep with you for 300. They will sleep with you for 800.

There are girls that will see you for 300. And even for 200.

This is kinda like getting a $20 Timex or a $20,000 Rolex. Both tell you the correct time. One is more desirable than the other.

I ONLY see top quality SA girls. Like the top 10% of what you see on there. You don't have to believe me, but it's true. I have no problem getting 8. 5's in real life, I sure as shit am not going to pay for one.

**LikesGirls** · 12-12-25 23:01

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I obviously can't tell you not to pay these girls 800 for an hour but I will tell you that there are a whole lot of guys (like me) out here that don't have the luxory of casino winnings. So when the girls quote 800 and then get 800 that only reinforces their mindset that they can get crazy money. I started out with SA in 2015 bangin' 18 - 24 yo girls twice a week for 150-200. Then went to 300 in 2022 - 2023. Even at 600 plus a 150 hotel is 750 but a guy has to earn 1000, then get a new paycheck of 750. Do that every week and its $50,000 a year. Just sayin'.

The girls that quote 800 are not going to sleep with you for 300. They will sleep with you for 800.

There are girls that will see you for 300. And even for 200.

This is kinda like getting a $20 Timex or a $20,000 Rolex. Both tell you the correct time. One is more desirable than the other.

**MmceStep** · 12-12-25 22:31

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I obviously can't tell you not to pay these girls 800 for an hour but I will tell you that there are a whole lot of guys (like me) out here that don't have the luxory of casino winnings. So when the girls quote 800 and then get 800 that only reinforces their mindset that they can get crazy money. I started out with SA in 2015 bangin' 18 - 24 yo girls twice a week for 150-200. Then went to 300 in 2022 - 2023. Even at 600 plus a 150 hotel is 750 but a guy has to earn 1000, then get a new paycheck of 750. Do that every week and its $50,000 a year. Just sayin'.

I still routinely see SA ladies for a $$ to $$$ fee. Yes, I take them to nice restaurants first and we stay at a nice hotel, but they don't treat me like there's any kind of time limit either. I don't make it transactional, and neither do they. I guess my point is that most of these women are looking for a variety of things. If I take the most cynical POV, I could say that they're after short con (quick score), medium con (regular arrangement), long con (long term or marrying a guy of means). If you start out the conversation with "How much for 1 hour of _ they're going to realize that they're probably going to see you one time. In their minds, It doesn't really matter how they treat you, and they don't expect to be treated very nicely by you either, so they might as well put a big number to it. I always say "My expectation is to have a non-intimate, non-paid public M&G first". I think all of them see this as a job interview, and of the last 12 times I've done this, all but one have agreed to go to my room after dinner, and yes. I have provided them with some sugar for this. The best of these have turned into regular, repeat scenarios. To summarize, your typical college girl doesn't want to think of herself as a prostitute, but at the same time she isn't going to turn down 'big money' if no one's going to find out. There's an amount of money that allows her to set aside her principles, and 800 might be that number for many of these. Just come at it a different way and I guarantee you that you'll have a better time.

**StormyTuesday** · 12-12-25 18:23

Originally Posted by Thomaspartey [View Original Post]

I've met Stella three months back. That time, she quoted 800 for an hour and 1500 for two. I had some casino winnings that day, so went with the instinct to meet her. She came on time and left exactly in an hour LOL. At least for me, she didn't look as attractive in person as the pics. But great body, less talkative and great attitude. So much better than these other girls who want easy money without even moving their lazy ass. If its 400, I'd have definitely visited her again.

I obviously can't tell you not to pay these girls 800 for an hour but I will tell you that there are a whole lot of guys (like me) out here that don't have the luxory of casino winnings. So when the girls quote 800 and then get 800 that only reinforces their mindset that they can get crazy money. I started out with SA in 2015 bangin' 18 - 24 yo girls twice a week for 150-200. Then went to 300 in 2022 - 2023. Even at 600 plus a 150 hotel is 750 but a guy has to earn 1000, then get a new paycheck of 750. Do that every week and its $50,000 a year. Just sayin'.

**MikeoDamerika** · 12-12-25 12:18

I need advice.

I used to be able to update my membership with visa blackhawk gift cards. It seems like I can't get any of those to work anymore.

Any advice? I can't use my regular credit card.

Thanks.

**Thomaspartey** · 12-11-25 13:00

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...7-a2ece46e348e

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...d-537b226fcef6

Either one may be Pro (read my post regarding Pros).

I've met Stella three months back. That time, she quoted 800 for an hour and 1500 for two. I had some casino winnings that day, so went with the instinct to meet her. She came on time and left exactly in an hour LOL. At least for me, she didn't look as attractive in person as the pics. But great body, less talkative and great attitude. So much better than these other girls who want easy money without even moving their lazy ass. If its 400, I'd have definitely visited her again.

**Bachelor1234** · 12-11-25 11:41

Originally Posted by SmallAsianCock [View Original Post]

She is a pro. Me one time. Another guy I know also one time. Most likely others as well. That qualifies as a pro.

Over the years, I've probably seen her 3 or 4 times. She's cool and fun but the vibes are a bit more on the pro side. I'm fine with this.

I've met several women on sugar sites only to find out later they have ads on escort sites. Never seen her advertise on escort sites though.

**SmallAsianCock** · 12-11-25 06:54

Originally Posted by Raltime [View Original Post]

Is she a pro?

She is a pro. Me one time. Another guy I know also one time. Most likely others as well. That qualifies as a pro.

**NightTraveler** · 12-10-25 20:21

Originally Posted by LikesGirls [View Original Post]

Any feedback on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-22791363158a

Seems responsive on chatting and later texting, thinking about meeting her tomorrow (Monday).

How was Luna? I'm considering seeing her tonight. Seems very chatty.

**Falconwings33** · 12-10-25 12:29

Originally Posted by YourCCPimp [View Original Post]

I used to see her for a little while. I would recommend her. She's very cool and the pics are real. I'm not sure what you mean by "pro" exactly. She is a legit SB (not on escort sites) if that's what you mean.

I've seen her as well. Used to be popular in Richmond board. Nice girl, great body with man made tittes.

**StormyTuesday** · 12-10-25 11:46

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...7-a2ece46e348e

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...d-537b226fcef6

Either one may be Pro (read my post regarding Pros).

**StormyTuesday** · 12-10-25 11:42

No doubt there are varying definitions on certain women on SA that could be a "Pro". Here are my two cents. I started out in 2014 with escorts before finding out about the SA candy store in 2015. A few of the old timers may remember me (same user name) from another site where I posted 35 reviews in 12 months. I tended to search out the "semi-pros", girls in the 18-24 range who had been kicked out of their house and were living day to day in motels and placing ads on BP.

I am convinced where SA lost its candy store culture was in April 2018 when the FOSTA act shut down BP. The escorts (along with the guys) moseyed on over to SA. Tbh, I put the blame on some of the mongers who joined SA and treated the cool SB girls like hoes.

To me Pro could stand for Proficiently experienced at extracting cash from guys wanting to get laid. My own list of clues:

1. When off the SA site their initial DMs call me baby, hun, my love, etc.

2. Their SA private pics make it very obvious they are DTF.

3. Do not work or go to school, and have no short-term intentions to do so.

4. Current or former "dancer", may even list their employment on SA as Entertainment.

I personally prefer not to start an arrangement with a Pro, but that's not to say they bring value to the SB experience. YMMV as we say.

**YourCCPimp** · 12-10-25 09:38

Originally Posted by Raltime [View Original Post]

Is she a pro?

I used to see her for a little while. I would recommend her. She's very cool and the pics are real. I'm not sure what you mean by "pro" exactly. She is a legit SB (not on escort sites) if that's what you mean.