"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Pan]

In what I've seen so far, I'm actually surprised how honest most of the ladies have been as far as weight goes. I guess I'm not a good judge of appearance vs. Weight, but many of them look to be less than what they've stated in their profiles.

Travelin.

Feel like most like young women like in 20's are honest it seems like.

[TravelinSD]

New BS Seeking blog post (excerpt).

https://blog.seeking.com/why-we-remo...ed-new-changes

Just as much as members lied about body type, they will do the a same with weight,

In what I've seen so far, I'm actually surprised how honest most of the ladies have been as far as weight goes. I guess I'm not a good judge of appearance vs. Weight, but many of them look to be less than what they've stated in their profiles.

Travelin.

[Peter Pan]

New BS Seeking blog post (excerpt).

https://blog.seeking.com/why-we-remo...ed-new-changes

"We've recently made important updates to Seeking.com, specifically removing the "Net Worth" and "Income" fields for our successful members and replacing the subjective "Body Type" field with "Weight. " We recognize these changes have stirred discussion among our valued users, and we want to openly share our reasoning behind these decisions. ".

Also.

"Additionally, to reinforce this approach, our prices will soon increase. This change will naturally help us identify and retain genuinely generous and successful members who truly embody the values our community appreciates. ".

What nonsense. Increase prices for guys to "prove" they are generous? Just as much as members lied about body type, they will do the a same with weight, unless Seeking will now ask you to verify weight in person as well.

Who actually buys into such nonsensical things? Maybe this belongs in Rants and Raves, but it felt more appropriate here.

If they further increase the prices, I think SDM and other sites will have an opportunity to take the.

Market share.

[Peter Pan]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-2577418eb486

She is real. But wants a lot of money. She was provided an apartment and.

$1 k a meet in her last arrangement.

I think she is partially at least true.

[MSmith3034]

New BS Seeking blog post (excerpt).

https://blog.seeking.com/why-we-remo...ed-new-changes

"We've recently made important updates to Seeking.com, specifically removing the "Net Worth" and "Income" fields for our successful members and replacing the subjective "Body Type" field with "Weight. " We recognize these changes have stirred discussion among our valued users, and we want to openly share our reasoning behind these decisions. ".

Also.

"Additionally, to reinforce this approach, our prices will soon increase. This change will naturally help us identify and retain genuinely generous and successful members who truly embody the values our community appreciates. ".

What nonsense. Increase prices for guys to "prove" they are generous? Just as much as members lied about body type, they will do the a same with weight, unless Seeking will now ask you to verify weight in person as well.

Who actually buys into such nonsensical things? Maybe this belongs in Rants and Raves, but it felt more appropriate here.

[MacLuvin]

Sounds like someone who is or has been a stripper. This is straight from the "stripper VIP room upsell" playbook. She's not a good candidate for a true sugar baby since she seems laser focused on $. I've had strippers who were just fun girls looking for a fun time and $ seemed like a bonus, but if you're talking to one of these GPS girls who only care about $ then there's not a lot of negotiating to do. Just remember you MUST be willing and able to walk away / block anytime you feel GPS is too strong. As long as you're willing to walk away, no matter how pretty they are or how bad you want it, you're always in a position of power and will always be able to find a better deal.

This post I made awhile back has links to several posts I've made outlining negotiating strategies. One thing to always remember: treat these girls like potential dates, not escorts. If you treat them like escorts, then you're always going to be stuck dealing with over priced girls laser focused $. I see guys on this board complain constantly about GPS and how high prices have become, but yet also treat the girls like escorts instead of a potential gf. For some reason guys really struggle to understand that these 2 things are directly connected.

I had bagged a wannabe insta-model college student for 250 PPM plus hotel and saw her a few times a month during fall and spring semesters. She moved home during the summer so I'm currently without. I have another who is down in South GA, she's not as reliable and is inconsistent, but I'm smashing her for 150 PPM (though in fairness she's closer to chubby than not).

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6451251.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post5799398

Very solid advice and info. Girls focused on the $$ are pro's and definitely going to be harder to negotiate because they're used to it. I will say this though about walking away. YMMV, but when you straight up turn these girls down, pro or not, it definitely messes with their heads. I've had girls I've said no to and walk away from because of their GPS, message me back weeks / months later when rent is due and nobody can see them suddenly willing to see me for what I originally asked. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I've also noticed that I've had girls start off higher ppm but once you start seeing them on the regular, and they know you're safe / reliable, they'll go lower just for the convenience.

[MacLuvin]

This is supposed to be a "report". If so, I want to let why'all know about searching Google for "escort" and "sugar baby". You're welcome!

And doesn't realize he / she is using their sponsor account. They've posted two vague links like that to a site that looks to be their site. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Muffin6655]

Has anyone tried talking to this one? She's pretty new, I've tried messaging her but haven't gotten much success.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...8-c0c6e492b07c

[Christian Troy]

Seeing Bria Thursday. She seems to have some knowledge of sugaring so I wanted to see if anyone else had seen her: https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...3821143c3d08b8.

[UninhibitedFla]

SLN Girl, Naomi 21.

https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/naomi3/

This is supposed to be a "report". If so, I want to let why'all know about searching Google for "escort" and "sugar baby". You're welcome!

[SugarLifeNow]

SLN Girl, Naomi 21.

https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/naomi3/

[JohnnyKash]

Sounds like someone who is or has been a stripper. This is straight from the "stripper VIP room upsell" playbook. She's not a good candidate for a true sugar baby since she seems laser focused on $. I've had strippers who were just fun girls looking for a fun time and $ seemed like a bonus, but if you're talking to one of these GPS girls who only care about $ then there's not a lot of negotiating to do. Just remember you MUST be willing and able to walk away / block anytime you feel GPS is too strong. As long as you're willing to walk away, no matter how pretty they are or how bad you want it, you're always in a position of power and will always be able to find a better deal.

This post I made awhile back has links to several posts I've made outlining negotiating strategies. One thing to always remember: treat these girls like potential dates, not escorts. If you treat them like escorts, then you're always going to be stuck dealing with over priced girls laser focused $. I see guys on this board complain constantly about GPS and how high prices have become, but yet also treat the girls like escorts instead of a potential gf. For some reason guys really struggle to understand that these 2 things are directly connected.

I had bagged a wannabe insta-model college student for 250 PPM plus hotel and saw her a few times a month during fall and spring semesters. She moved home during the summer so I'm currently without. I have another who is down in South GA, she's not as reliable and is inconsistent, but I'm smashing her for 150 PPM (though in fairness she's closer to chubby than not).

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6451251.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post5799398

You're really good, as I think about this, she is a strippe, are she did every thing like a stripper, you are spot on and she jumped into a BMW X6 . Normal chicks don't jump into X6's but strippers at Cheetahs.

I'm willing to bet she strips at Cheetahs.

[GoneForGood97]

Negotiations -.

Look I have to ask you guys how do you get these prices down I have been negotiating with this sugar baby, and I started off at 2 Then she said I don't know about that you know I have to get a baby sitter I even had to get a baby sitter to come here and meet you. SO now I'm thinking you want me to pay for your babysitter. Thats crazy. So I said do you need to go She said Well, any time I go out, I have to get a sitter, so don't worry about it.

She then starts rubbing on me giving me a massage in the restaurant and she has me pretty much and then she say do you like this. As my eyes close I say hell yeah. She then stops and says well what is it worth to you it is more than 200 . I looked at her and said the touch was good but you want me too promise to give you a $ for something site unseen. I have to have more info to evaluate, and as good as that touch was, it is not enough for me to go on. She then pressed some muscle in my inner thigh and my dick started to get hard. She leans over and wispers in my ear how much is this touch worth. Look I can go 250 mybe 3 but that's it. I'm wanting to do something write then but I tell her I need to go beacuse I work in the morning. Which I did. So I pay the bill and I walk her to her car which is.

A BMW X6 I'm thinking B*tch you don't need my money. She then takes her finger and circles it around my nipple and says I want you to think what this touch is worth and get back with me. I pull her to me, give her a hug, and I send her on her way. She calls and I stay firm a 2-3. She is not happy. And says. You don't want this touch, then says you can do better than 3. Does this feel like a 3 touch. I laugh and tell her I will get back with her and tell her that 3 is good money.

The question is, how are you guys getting them at 2 and below I just don't see how that is happening.

Please advise and share negotiation techniques.

Sounds like someone who is or has been a stripper. This is straight from the "stripper VIP room upsell" playbook. She's not a good candidate for a true sugar baby since she seems laser focused on $. I've had strippers who were just fun girls looking for a fun time and $ seemed like a bonus, but if you're talking to one of these GPS girls who only care about $ then there's not a lot of negotiating to do. Just remember you MUST be willing and able to walk away / block anytime you feel GPS is too strong. As long as you're willing to walk away, no matter how pretty they are or how bad you want it, you're always in a position of power and will always be able to find a better deal.

This post I made awhile back has links to several posts I've made outlining negotiating strategies. One thing to always remember: treat these girls like potential dates, not escorts. If you treat them like escorts, then you're always going to be stuck dealing with over priced girls laser focused $. I see guys on this board complain constantly about GPS and how high prices have become, but yet also treat the girls like escorts instead of a potential gf. For some reason guys really struggle to understand that these 2 things are directly connected.

I had bagged a wannabe insta-model college student for 250 PPM plus hotel and saw her a few times a month during fall and spring semesters. She moved home during the summer so I'm currently without. I have another who is down in South GA, she's not as reliable and is inconsistent, but I'm smashing her for 150 PPM (though in fairness she's closer to chubby than not).

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6451251.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post5799398

[Peter Pan]

Negotiations -.

Look I have to ask you guys how do you get these prices down I have been negotiating with this sugar baby, and I started off at 2 Then she said I don't know about that you know I have to get a baby sitter I even had to get a baby sitter to come here and meet you. SO now I'm thinking you want me to pay for your babysitter. Thats crazy. So I said do you need to go She said Well, any time I go out, I have to get a sitter, so don't worry about it.

She then starts rubbing on me giving me a massage in the restaurant and she has me pretty much and then she say do you like this. As my eyes close I say hell yeah. She then stops and says well what is it worth to you it is more than 200 . I looked at her and said the touch was good but you want me too promise to give you a $ for something site unseen. I have to have more info to evaluate, and as good as that touch was, it is not enough for me to go on. She then pressed some muscle in my inner thigh and my dick started to get hard. She leans over and wispers in my ear how much is this touch worth. Look I can go 250 mybe 3 but that's it. I'm wanting to do something write then but I tell her I need to go beacuse I work in the morning. Which I did. So I pay the bill and I walk her to her car which is.

A BMW X6 I'm thinking B*tch you don't need my money. She then takes her finger and circles it around my nipple and says I want you to think what this touch is worth and get back with me. I pull her to me, give her a hug, and I send her on her way. She calls and I stay firm a 2-3. She is not happy. And says. You don't want this touch, then says you can do better than 3. Does this feel like a 3 touch. I laugh and tell her I will get back with her and tell her that 3 is good money.

The question is, how are you guys getting them at 2 and below I just don't see how that is happening.

Please advise and share negotiation techniques.

It all depends. There is no way (with some here and there exceptions that too occasionally) where anyone is getting a 20 something hot white girl that is not into drugs or not a white trash for less money. No matter if you have the best technique or even if you are a Greek god. The girls have options and many men are willing to pay more. But yes I under 3 is possible for not so good looking ones, pros, older women etc. That said there will always be exceptions. But sugaring is not the same like 10 years ago. Too much information and awareness in general. There is more competition. Many are joining just to make money by selling vids: photos and online only relationships.

[Berol Loz]

I haven't had fun with an ebony sb in a while, unfortunately Mya stood me up: https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...72820276&nsp=1.

"I'm sorry, I totally forgot" suuurrrreee: eyeroll:

I just moved to text with Kami, anyone seen her? Love her pics, she's almost TGTBT. Kami: https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=73742149.

Mya is a time waster, there is always something going on that she can make it. Avoid.

Too bad, Mya looks goodThanks for letting us know though.