The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**Hb1174** · 04-07-25 08:58

I've been having decent success using Seeking, and I wanted to give everyone some tips about what has worked for me, with the hope that it works for you. Everyone has a different way to use the site, so I'm not saying my way is the best. Now that the disclaimers are done, let's talk about what I've found to work thus far:

Golden Rule: Never Ever Ever send money before meeting. These women will talk to you, be nice and interested, and keep the con going for days just to get $20 or $50 from you. If you do get scammed, just know that if she spent 8 or more hours talking to you for that money then she's making lower than minimum wage haha.

Rule #1: Cast your net far and wide.

There are a lot of women on Seeking, but there are also a decent number of guys in each of their inboxes. There are a few tools to get noticed:

- Have at least one picture. Yes, there's a risk associated, but I've made profiles with both pictures and no pictures and I'm getting roughly 30% more responses with a single picture. If you don't want to use yours, find someone similar but communicate this to the women once she gets to know you better.

- Try to message women when they are currently online. This puts your message at the top of their inbox. I usually look to see if a woman is online, craft a message and send it. Then if she refreshes her page I send her a favorite. That gives you two separate cases to get her attention.

- Be unique and respectful in your messages. Guys, it's 2025 and there are things called ChatGPT, Gemini, and other AI tools. Just copy / paste their profile into it, and have it create an interesting introduction message for you based on her profile. If you're new to AI and there's interest, I could do a whole post about how to get the best output from using it. And on the respect, even the pros who post on both Seeking and Tryst want to hear something nice for once. You will be that one guy "who actually cares. " I've had so many responses saying "wow, you really put a lot of effort into this" when in truth I spent 5 minutes making a perfect response.

- Consider options outside of your comfort zone. Like most of you I have a type, but if those women aren't responding, try opening your horizons a bit more. You'd be surprised at the arrangements you can come up with when you give yourself more women to choose from. You'll also be less likely to overpay for the one chick who responded that is your type as the alternate option you chose is 80% of what you're looking for at 40% of the price.

Rule #2: Treat every conversation as if you will never meet them.

- I feel like I spend 50% of my time chatting with someone, only to find out we aren't compatible (money, availability, menu items) or she is a scammer / fake. If you try to date these women one at a time, you will end up losing precious time to get to actual arrangements. If you have some empathy like me, you can either let the women know that you're looking for one arrangement but are talking to multiple people to find it. Then if you really can't meet them because you found someone else (or in my case, I can't afford to see them all at once) you can say you're taken, but if things don't work out you'll reach out to see if they're available.

- Speaking of chatting, there are many ways to get to the end game, but if you're budget conscious like myself, here's what I do:

O Get her attention with the opening message.

O Say a few nice things in 2-3 messages.

O Ask them if they want to see if we're a good fit by texting instead of talking details on the site.

O Via text get all the details of costs, hosting, menu, etc.

O If her terms work, continue chatting to reach a date, and if not tell her it won't work.

- The last thing I'll say on opening messages is I always try to make the first few words very unique. That's because they can see those words before they even open the message. Saying "3 Reasons why I think. " or "I love your eyes, and I wish. " looks better than "Hey" or "Hi. ".

Rule #3: Newer members usually have more flexibility.

- Most, but not all women tend to develop their allowance rate and what they're comfortable with over time. When they are new to the site, they don't know how everything works, which can be advantageous in either getting a lower allowance or better items on the menu. The following things can improve your odds:

O Offering to meet in person to discuss terms. I find that once I meet them and they see I'm not crazy and they're interested that they are more lenient on their requirements.

O Having recent test results. Regardless of if you play with protection or not, having test results really calms down the concern women have with initially having sex with a guy. A vasectomy wouldn't hurt either, but again it depends on how you play and what you're looking for.

O Make the conversation sound like you want to focus on pleasuring them as well. That helps level the playing field and if they think they will get more than a few minutes of humping they are likely to work with your budget. Also, a lot of the women will delete their profile if they find exactly what they're looking for. No sharing yay!

I have a few that I'm working on currently, but they left the platform. I do have one that I spent time with who is still active that I will post once I get more time to write. Feel free to PM me with questions if I didn't cover something you wanted to know about.

**YourCCPimp** · 04-06-25 21:07

Originally Posted by IndyMan177 [View Original Post]

Interested in Jenny. Can she host? What was the PPM? Thanks for any information.

She doesn't host. She asks 500 but agreed to 450 with me.

**NewRdUGuy** · 04-06-25 18:17

I know they're not reviewed all that much here but anyone found any good chubbies on SA lately? PM if you'd rather.

**Rgfct4** · 04-06-25 12:15

Has anyone seen or heard from her? She is not answering texts. Very unlike her.

**IndyMan177** · 04-06-25 12:07

Originally Posted by YourCCPimp [View Original Post]

Someone else recommended her as well, but Jenny is pretty great. Definitely a screamer. She is classy and educated which I'm into.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...b-135a43c90645

Interested in Jenny. Can she host? What was the PPM? Thanks for any information.

**Rgfct4** · 04-05-25 15:43

Has anyone seen or heard from her recently? She is not answering texts -- very unusual because she is usually good at comms.

**Swimback** · 04-03-25 14:44

Originally Posted by SaintMan3500 [View Original Post]

This mirrors the exact situation I had with her, years ago. She's been on the site for years, yet has the communication skills of a rock.

I'm curious if anyone has seen her.

Echoing other experiences with her. I was over it quick. Point of seeking is we are paying to not deal with regular dating headaches. As soon as it is as much as or more work than regular dating the value proposition dissolves. I'm paying for convenience, period.

**SaintMan3500** · 04-03-25 14:09

Originally Posted by LikesGirls [View Original Post]

I exchanged a couple messages but it's days between replies so I gave up. I wasn't being pushy or wishy washy, just basically suggested a couple days / times and asked what would work for her if what I proposed isn't convenient.

This mirrors the exact situation I had with her, years ago. She's been on the site for years, yet has the communication skills of a rock.

I'm curious if anyone has seen her.

**Berol Loz** · 04-02-25 16:42

Originally Posted by BerolLoz [View Original Post]

If anyone is looking for some more girls in the Raleigh area, here are a few that sound like they're up for meeting (two mention PPM right in their profile).

The end of the month is usually a good time to look as rent / bills come due. I usually look for girls who have something in their profile that sounds like they are willing to meet and have a few photos, ideally full body.

Vibaby888,23.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...68654909&nsp=1

"seeking something mutually beneficial NSA. ONLY message me if you're serious and LOCAL".

Amaseve, 21.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...72331340&nsp=1

"only interested in PPM".

Brunettebunny, 21, Chapel Hill.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...73669560&nsp=1

"looking for a zaddy to take care of me in exchange for some fun".

Bellab00,20, Gastonia.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...73640023&nsp=1

"financial support in exchange for pics and vids" (pic seller, but local).

I'm including pictures in case anyone recognizes them off Seeking. A lot of girls have profiles on both sites. If any are know scammers, please post too.

Originally Posted by CooWhip [View Original Post]

I can vouch for Amaseve, 21.

She is a tiny spinner with a great body. PPM $400 - can host at her own place.

Nice, thanks for the confirmation. Glad the pictures are accurate. And girls who can host are a rare find Sounds like she was fun?

**LikesGirls** · 04-01-25 17:25

Originally Posted by MisterMister46 [View Original Post]

Anyone end up seeing or talking to this one?

I exchanged a couple messages but it's days between replies so I gave up. I wasn't being pushy or wishy washy, just basically suggested a couple days / times and asked what would work for her if what I proposed isn't convenient.

**MisterMister46** · 04-01-25 17:13

Originally Posted by South215 [View Original Post]

I could have sworn I saw something about this one recently. Any info out there?

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...5-049544924884

Anyone end up seeing or talking to this one?

**SaintMan3500** · 04-01-25 13:37

Originally Posted by WpbDude [View Original Post]

Yeah, I should know better after all this time. But you think you talk to somebody for at least a few days for long periods of time get a good vibe. Nope it was just a long con for measly gas money. Her name is Iris on seeking listed in Durham.

Originally Posted by South215 [View Original Post]

Come on people it isn't hard to post a link.

I'm guessing this is who OP is talking about.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...9-b13902447fad

That's a shame. If true, I'm surprised. I met her long ago and at the time, she didn't pull anything like this. Damn

**South215** · 04-01-25 09:30

Originally Posted by WpbDude [View Original Post]

Yeah, I should know better after all this time. But you think you talk to somebody for at least a few days for long periods of time get a good vibe. Nope it was just a long con for measly gas money. Her name is Iris on seeking listed in Durham.

Come on people it isn't hard to post a link.

I'm guessing this is who OP is talking about.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...9-b13902447fad

**LikesGirls** · 04-01-25 01:07

Originally Posted by MmceStep [View Original Post]

Is it 'house cleaning' only?

It's what I said: 200 ppm and she can't host. I thought that was clear but maybe not. She's not there to clean your house. And you can meet her at a hotel if you prefer.

**WpbDude** · 03-31-25 19:47

Yeah, I should know better after all this time. But you think you talk to somebody for at least a few days for long periods of time get a good vibe. Nope it was just a long con for measly gas money. Her name is Iris on seeking listed in Durham.