Arrangement Reports

[Shorty58]

Same here. Nice conversation, but don't want to be intimate till she is ready. We didn't talk about allowance, but I just said good luck. Too bad she is hot.

Scammer, now she is in Minneapolis.

[LeeElvisLee]

To each their own, man.

Don't judge other people's preferences.

I have my opinion, she looks tore up.

If your feelings got hurt bro it's not my business. This a forum.

I have my opinion, you have yours!

[GeekAuto]

You guys Talking about lunasol? She looks awful. On a good day maybe a 4 out of ten!! I wouldn't buy her a happy meal.

To each their own, man.

Don't judge other people's preferences.

[Donger999]

Another scammer, seems real and legit, plays the long game, but ultimately wants to sell pics, OF, etc. Anyone with a different experience? This is at least her second profile BTW.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...2-f757883274c7

[TheArgent]

Then SA hit the mainstream and on came the scammers, fakes, time wasters, pros and GPS. During the pandemic Sugaring caught the attention of TikTok and girls started colluding to double even triple the rates guys needed to pay. The SA party as we knew it was over and SA went into a downward spiral.

Today. You are correct $5-$600 is the new $300 and asks of $800, $1000 + are common. $300 girls are mostly defunct at this point even fat.

Removing the Seeking app from the iPhone is what did most of the damage to Seeking. Most of these girls have iPhones and if it's not an app, they are much less likely to log into a website. It also seems less "legit". When it's in the Apple store, it means legitimacy.

After that, the recent boom in job availability in the last few years means there are fewer desperate women. You can get a $20/ hr job easily right now. That simply wasn't the case six or seven years ago.

I think it's also overlooked how much harder it is now for Asian and Eastern European women to fly into the country and escort for six months. In 2017 it became much harder to get a visa from some countries and there was a lot more enforcement of already existing restrictions. There used to be a safety valve on Seeking where if the girls were asking too much, you could visit a hot eastern European girl in her twenties for less than $300. Now that's not really possible, so there's effectively more bargaining power on the supply side.

[LeeElvisLee]

Same here. Nice conversation, but don't want to be intimate till she is ready. We didn't talk about allowance, but I just said good luck. Too bad she is hot.

You guys Talking about lunasol? She looks awful. On a good day maybe a 4 out of ten!! I wouldn't buy her a happy meal.

[Silver6933]

Hot chick, nice convo, seemed legit, sure, meet for coffee but she charges 200 for a platonic date. Um no thanks.

So annoying. Who falls for that crap.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...a-bb4863d847f3

Same here. Nice conversation, but don't want to be intimate till she is ready. We didn't talk about allowance, but I just said good luck. Too bad she is hot.

[Donger999]

Hot chick, nice convo, seemed legit, sure, meet for coffee but she charges 200 for a platonic date. Um no thanks.

So annoying. Who falls for that crap.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...a-bb4863d847f3

[ThickWallet]

Is she real? What's on the menu and what is the damage?

Link to profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/c...e-c0115e865d93.

[JoeDirt12]

Hi Guys.

Any intel on sunflowerchild22?

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-e9265d3cc034

Any info will be appreciated.

[Alabamalon]

I like this idea. Could be informative and interesting. To do it right though may be best to start a new dedicated thread for it otherwise it will likely get lost in the midst of this larger topic. I'll start off.

I started with SA in 2017 as it was just taking off in popularity. It was a bottomless pit of true girl next door and coed pussy. Rarely paid more than $300. Always had 3-5 hot girls going in a rotation. SA was bursting at the seems with $300 coed pussy so the rotation was constantly being refreshed. Life was glorious.

Monthly was a topic that always came up back then. PPM was for escorts they were SB's and wanted an allowance. But monthly never really found any footing. Girls were too unreliable so PPM became the norm. And it's the same today. Monthly is not very common and will almost always get you short changed or scammed at some point.

Then SA hit the mainstream and on came the scammers, fakes, time wasters, pros and GPS. During the pandemic Sugaring caught the attention of TikTok and girls started colluding to double even triple the rates guys needed to pay. The SA party as we knew it was over and SA went into a downward spiral.

Today. You are correct $5-$600 is the new $300 and asks of $800, $1000 + are common. $300 girls are mostly defunct at this point even fat.

Chicks want $500. $400 girls do still exist but you'll need to dig to find them. My rotation is down to 2 girls, 1 weekly and 1 biweekly, both $400. Both know there is bigger PPM $ out there but they are fine with less given that the guy (me) is reliable and isn't a dbag, freak or asshole which there apparently are a lot of on SA. Biweekly girl is still active on SA and says she easily gets $800 PPM. And she's an older MILF too not some young coed but she still gets $800 PPM with ease. Downside she says are that they are bed hopping one time meet type guys and that's not her thing really. She even found the white whale, an old rich dude that didn't want sex only companionship, and paid her $2000 PPM just to hang out. But as with other high PPM guys it was very short lived.

So my current grizzled veteran opinion of SA is that you can still find a reasonable value ($400) girl but it might take a helluva effort to flush it out. And if / when you do find it try to hang on to it to delay having to go back into that SA dumpster fire. I'll never do monthly, will never succumb to the ridiculous GPS of current SA girls either.

Perhaps paid advertising such as billboards, online ads, and reddit posts targeted towards men to stop paying high prices. At the end of the day, men have no need for money while women need it. Eventually the well dries up.

How are you all approaching women in your first one or two messages? I wonder if I'm getting low hits because I don't ask the woman anything about her personality and go straight to my offer. Even when I ask what they want from the site, I still get no response. Perhaps someone understands how to come off as a "sugar" daddy and not a "splenda".

What about negotiations and finding out allowance? It seems like I have to make the first mention. I have a specific low number in mind because I would believe that it doesn't hurt to throw it out (except for the times where I'm ghosted immediately after forever). Like all women, I'm not in the mood or position to waste my time and treat someone out to dinner only to find out they are platonic or high gps. I'm willing to give more but it doesn't seem like they realize.

Example of profile bio and headlines?

[Pau Ford]

I like this idea. Could be informative and interesting. To do it right though may be best to start a new dedicated thread for it otherwise it will likely get lost in the midst of this larger topic. I'll start off.

I started with SA in 2017 as it was just taking off in popularity. It was a bottomless pit of true girl next door and coed pussy. Rarely paid more than $300. Always had 3-5 hot girls going in a rotation. SA was bursting at the seems with $300 coed pussy so the rotation was constantly being refreshed. Life was glorious.

Monthly was a topic that always came up back then. PPM was for escorts they were SB's and wanted an allowance. But monthly never really found any footing. Girls were too unreliable so PPM became the norm. And it's the same today. Monthly is not very common and will almost always get you short changed or scammed at some point.

Then SA hit the mainstream and on came the scammers, fakes, time wasters, pros and GPS. During the pandemic Sugaring caught the attention of TikTok and girls started colluding to double even triple the rates guys needed to pay. The SA party as we knew it was over and SA went into a downward spiral.

Today. You are correct $5-$600 is the new $300 and asks of $800, $1000 + are common. $300 girls are mostly defunct at this point even fat.

Chicks want $500. $400 girls do still exist but you'll need to dig to find them. My rotation is down to 2 girls, 1 weekly and 1 biweekly, both $400. Both know there is bigger PPM $ out there but they are fine with less given that the guy (me) is reliable and isn't a dbag, freak or asshole which there apparently are a lot of on SA. Biweekly girl is still active on SA and says she easily gets $800 PPM. And she's an older MILF too not some young coed but she still gets $800 PPM with ease. Downside she says are that they are bed hopping one time meet type guys and that's not her thing really. She even found the white whale, an old rich dude that didn't want sex only companionship, and paid her $2000 PPM just to hang out. But as with other high PPM guys it was very short lived.

So my current grizzled veteran opinion of SA is that you can still find a reasonable value ($400) girl but it might take a helluva effort to flush it out. And if / when you do find it try to hang on to it to delay having to go back into that SA dumpster fire. I'll never do monthly, will never succumb to the ridiculous GPS of current SA girls either.

Fellas, how about we discuss how much of an allowance we should offer based on SB baggage etc. IDK I'm just thinking out loud here and hoping we can control the market to gain the upper hand in this hobby. Obviously, if you have deep pockets this may not interest you at all. Thoughts?

I think that's a great idea!

Especially, those of you who have been in the game longer. Your input is appreciated, so that the less experienced fellas here don't inflate the market.

I've noticed most girls on SA are in the 400-600 range, some want 700, or even 1 k per meet.

Let me know if you think if those rates are fair.

Also, those of you doing monthly allowance, how much do you pay your SB including gifts, dinners, drings etc.

[JonJon5456]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...4-febd68875a1b

LOL. That's a rough 40 yo!

[GeekAuto]

Fellas, how about we discuss how much of an allowance we should offer based on SB baggage etc. IDK I'm just thinking out loud here and hoping we can control the market to gain the upper hand in this hobby. Obviously, if you have deep pockets this may not interest you at all. Thoughts?

I think that's a great idea!

Especially, those of you who have been in the game longer. Your input is appreciated, so that the less experienced fellas here don't inflate the market.

I've noticed most girls on SA are in the 400-600 range, some want 700, or even 1 k per meet.

Let me know if you think if those rates are fair.

Also, those of you doing monthly allowance, how much do you pay your SB including gifts, dinners, drings etc.

[Meddic80]

Fellas, how about we discuss how much of an allowance we should offer based on SB baggage etc. IDK I'm just thinking out loud here and hoping we can control the market to gain the upper hand in this hobby. Obviously, if you have deep pockets this may not interest you at all. Thoughts?