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[RamblinJavlin]

First off. Thank you RamblinJavlin for the info on Youleeah, she is truly just about perfect GFE in my books.

Second, can you give any advice on how to get ahold of Sierra? She hasn't been on seeking in a couple months and she seemed like fun.

Thanks again.

You're welcome. I've meet up with Youleeah a few times now. She likes to get filmed. If you got a decent camera (not just your damn phone) she'll love you for it.

I messaged you about Sierra.

[PdxGuy044]

She's raised that now, thanks to some of you jackasses giving her 500 a visit. What the fuck is wrong with you people? SMH.

First off. Thank you RamblinJavlin for the info on Youleeah, she is truly just about perfect GFE in my books.

Second, can you give any advice on how to get ahold of Sierra? She hasn't been on seeking in a couple months and she seemed like fun.

Thanks again.

[ButtMan343]

It has too smell like cats, as she smells like cats.

Carpet had cat food all over it, bathroom stunk and was disgusting. A decent fuck but sheesh she needs to get her act together.

[Pay to Play]

Typical request to get you to send money before meeting:

"You fine with sending $30 first after I send my address then the rest after or you can just give cash I always do this with all my clients the $30 goes towards the payment".

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-01300f91d6bb

They always start with something small that seems insignificant to get you to send money, then it will be followed up with some lane excuse like my car won't start or I need money for an UBER.

[3Putt]

Her place is a dump. LOL.

It has too smell like cats, as she smells like cats.

[3Putt]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...b-f8889e2bfc1a

Fun, but looks used, can or cannot say she is using. Will show up on time, will jump in sack, will let you stick it in her butt. Will text you a lot asking for money LOL.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

Seeking is terrible at filtering out fake accounts. It can be hard to tell which accounts are fake early on. By the time may of us notice / recognize a fake, we've been texting them for weeks and they suddenly ask for money or want us to subscribe to their bogus OnlyFans or Snap profile.

All great advice. I would add to watch out for the delays in meeting. I quickly switch to text, and if she won't commit to a meeting date within a few texts, I will block the profile and move on.

[Mizunate]

Seeking is terrible at filtering out fake accounts. It can be hard to tell which accounts are fake early on. By the time may of us notice / recognize a fake, we've been texting them for weeks and they suddenly ask for money or want us to subscribe to their bogus OnlyFans or Snap profile.

You have to be discerning to find the fakes. First, as I've said before, ask yourself: is this hot girl really someone I think would be living in my area? Take a look around, are you seeing girls that good looking, generally? If not, this should sound alarm bells.

Second, how good are the pics? Most girls don't have professional photogs following them around. If the pics on the profile are crystal clear, chances are they're from some sort of professional account. This isn't always true, though; some women do have professional photos taken for various reasons, but if the pro photo seems like it's for a business or meant for some social media influencer thing, there's a good chance it's fake.

The same can be said for really grainy pics. Those are often screenshots of video or screengrabs on a mobile device.

Beyond the image quality, look for details. This account (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...0-d4ad9fddd42f) stood out. Take a look at the pic attached to this post. Zoom in on the feeder / trough. It's got a french website and Euro phone number. Now, why would a girl in "Portland" need a French trough for her cows I'm so, so sure she keep in her backyard.

(Also, she's 40? Not a chance.).

So I did the reverse image search, and found they came from this person. Who is in Germany: https://www.facebook.com/people/Mari...1551505466777/.

And it should go without saying, no, German farming (influencer Marie Hoffman is not in Portland, and probably has no idea her pics are being used on Seeking.

Anyway.

Details matter, as does a critical mind. A lot of us have wasted tons of time talking to fake users. I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend 5 minutes doing some sleuthing than days on end wondering when I might be able to meet someone that I simply can't.

(And I'm reporting the account, so if you can't access it on Seeking, that means the mods at Seeking actually took action on a report for once, which is itself a miracle.).

[ButtMan343]

She talks a bit, and you can't tell her anything because she's 23 and knows it all. But, she's a good GFE, and has a decent body with a tight clam. She's a virgin in the butt and is willing to get her ass stuffed. She needs help, so anything goes. She has incall.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-a704f5103b3b

Her place is a dump. LOL.

[Tadger]

As I felt Seeking Arrangements was (is?) changing, I wanted to explore other options...

This is a really helpful post, thank you for sharing!

[Mizunate]

As I felt Seeking Arrangements was (is?) changing, I wanted to explore other options.

I gave Tinder a shot, and it was (is!) messy. People engage, then ghost, then just delete conversations. Rinse and repeat. Everyone is passively wasting time there. You CAN meet people from Tinder, of course, it just takes more effort than I feel it's worth, or feels random.

Secret Benefits is the closest competition for Seeking Arrangements, but does things slightly different. Instead of a monthly charge, you pay for credits. Everything "costs" 10 credits.

Want to start a conversation? 10 credits.

Want to reply to someone new who initiated a conversation? 10 credits.

Want to see their "Secret" album? 10 credits.

Want to see how they answered a few dating-app-like questions? 10 credits.

Want to "boost" your message to someone so it appears more prominently in their inbox? 10 credits.

You get the point.

As a business model, it works for Secret Benefits. It works for them because this "hobby" is largely a numbers game. You have to message a lot of people to get even one interaction. For various reasons. Or no reason at all. Women you try to start conversations with simply don't engage. The credits system means you end up spending more, and more often.

When you use all of your credits, Secret Benefits will offer to double your credits for free on your next purchase. If you buy within the next 10 minutes. Even with that double-credit "deal," you end up with the same number of non-responses. It's just more work, really. Whether you message 100 people or 200 people, you might end up with two replies.

The profiles I interacted with are shown to be active, and engaged on the site. There is a specific way to tell when girls are actually using the site and when they just have a browser tab of the site open or in the background. I know I wasn't messaging a defunct account.

The validity of the profiles is suspect in many cases, and the Secret Benefits team is really defensive of the idea there could be a single fake profile on the site. I edited my profile at one point to note I would only be interacting with verified profiles due to some accounts being fake, and the customer service team reached out to me immediately. And THEY edited my profile to remove mention of fake profiles. I find that alarming; you're not even in control of your own profile.

Verified profiles are billed as ones where girls post a short video where they say "let me be your secret. " And there are many verified profiles with those videos. There are also profiles shown to be verified which don't have those videos posted. I asked the Secret Benefits customer service team how posts can be verified without a video posted, and I was told the girls send the video in and the team verifies it, but the videos aren't posted to their profile. When I asked how a girl could request the video not be posted, I got no response.

I also found at least two videos I felt were created with A. I. - in part because I found the pictures to be taken from social media accounts of women who are overseas. The videos showed the women saying "let me be your secret," but the videos are of poor quality. One of the girls is an OnlyFans creator, too, and I wonder if she was paid to make the video without knowing what it would be used for. Speculation, of course, but it is suspect.

All that said, I feel many profiles on Secret Benefits are real women who are really in this area. I've chatted with a few, but conversations seem to fall off for no reason. I chalk this up to Secret Benefit's interface, which doesn't adequately highlight which conversations have new messages. It's easy to miss when someone messages you, especially if you get a lot of messages. I'd messaged many women a few times before I got a response (because I saw they were active) and each mentioned they were having issues keeping up with messages because of the site's layout.

Many women have profiles on both Secret Benefits and Seeking Arrangements. I've met two women on Secret Benefits who do not have Seeking Arrangements profiles, and both were an experience I chose not to repeat. One was very clearly on a lot of drugs (she said she was high on weed, but I think there were a lot of prescriptions at work, too), and the other just wasn't a very nice person. Not a representation of Secret Benefits, of course, but it was my experience with women on that site who are ready to meet up.

So, brass tacks: is Secret Benefits worth it?

Not really. It's not a firm "avoid this site at all costs," but I don't think that spending money on credits is effective or efficient. In an A / B test, I spent about 3 x at Secret Benefits and had the same number of conversations that felt as though they could lead to a date and / or fun.

I care about how much is spent out of pocket for meaningful interactions. Seeking Arrangements has a lot of fake users and other issues, but it's still the best bang for your buck (pun intended).

Maybe, in time, Secret Benefits will improve. I'd like to see it change how it displays new messages to people, and take verification more seriously. Secret Benefits feels like it's Temu compared to Seeking Arrangements as Amazon. Both are a mess in their own way, but you end up finding what you want at Seeking Arrangements more often than Secret Benefits.

[Mizunate]

Mizunate recommended her. I started chatting her up, but then she didn't respond to my last question and I haven't really pursued. She's super attractive, but someone at that age isn't typically making the top 10 on my TDL.

She's nice, fun to chat with, all the things. Not at all 6'1" like she claims, though. Mom-bod, a bit rough around the edges, and lots of fun in the sack. Will BB, but there is a distinct odor in the basement (which doesn't dissipate) that should make you think twice about that.

Probably high volume, too. Her hosting is up in the air, but bank on her not hosting.

[RamblinJavlin]

Anyone drop in to see her yet? From SA her profile was already posted here.

Mizunate recommended her. I started chatting her up, but then she didn't respond to my last question and I haven't really pursued. She's super attractive, but someone at that age isn't typically making the top 10 on my TDL.

[3Putt]

Anyone drop in to see her yet? From SA her profile was already posted here.

The op who posted her, said he seen her, have you asked him? I asked him on a couple but didn't get a reply as of yet.

[ButtMan343]

Anyone drop in to see her yet? From SA her profile was already posted here.