What I learned as a Monger for the past 2 years. Good read for Newbies

[Ron M]

For sure, what do you guys recommend as a first go around? I'm leaning on HKPD for 30 to see if this is something I can do then move my way up. I was thinking an hour for $160 because I may get nervous and gun shy. Does $160 regular service get you a massage or nuru? Thanks!

I'm not an Asian Massage enthusiast.

I guess whatever you feel comfortable with as your first experience is fine.

I definitely would not recommend a gangbang as your first experience.

[KFire]

At some point you'll have to get in the game yourself. Having fun reading what others have done will get old fast.

For sure, what do you guys recommend as a first go around? I'm leaning on HKPD for 30 to see if this is something I can do then move my way up. I was thinking an hour for $160 because I may get nervous and gun shy. Does $160 regular service get you a massage or nuru? Thanks!

[KFire]

Good advice. Need to get those ultra thin Japanese bags. I definitely initiate more with the wife but yeah, I can be proactive in voicing wants and needs but it's one thing getting it from someone that wants to get it done and others what know what they are doing.

Much appreciated for the advice.

Playing this game without a condom is risky as shit. I admit to taking BBBJ from time to time and I always regret it so advise you not to get started down that path. It's addictive and once the little brain knows you are willing it takes over and is hard to drop. Suggest you focus on other forms of release. Handjob, Russian, jerk off on her tits or whatever floats your boat. Heck cum in her mouth if you want but have her jerk you off there. That can be very hot. But if you're going all in definitely use a condom. STD's have gone way up and any gal that fucks or sucks you bare is doing it with other guys. That's one certainty in this hobby. None of us are special. A STD can ruin your marriage and in turn your relationship with the kid.

Last advice if you have fun outside the house is don't give up on wifey. Don't be afraid to tell her what you want and enjoy. I've worked on that and it's not perfect but the 80/20 rule at home has helped me keep the hobby in check just enough.

[ZzTopSterZz]

I hit 41 a couple months ago and my LL wife is lower and lower as time passes. After having a kid, she never shed her mom bod. I am finally getting into some stable income and reading this forum is helping me build up the courage to enjoy myself. One life to live and I feel like I've worked this hard not to be selfish once in a while.

A few things I need to overcome is not being able to perform (anxiety with a new partner you don't know and I hate condoms), STDs, and potential to be robbed or caught by the Poe Poe. You mongers are building up my courage to go for it though. Just need a little more time to build up the courage to pop the cherry. I need to keep reminding myself that you only live once. For now, I'm living through your guys stories and wisdom. Much appreciated.

Playing this game without a condom is risky as shit. I admit to taking BBBJ from time to time and I always regret it so advise you not to get started down that path. It's addictive and once the little brain knows you are willing it takes over and is hard to drop. Suggest you focus on other forms of release. Handjob, Russian, jerk off on her tits or whatever floats your boat. Heck cum in her mouth if you want but have her jerk you off there. That can be very hot. But if you're going all in definitely use a condom. STD's have gone way up and any gal that fucks or sucks you bare is doing it with other guys. That's one certainty in this hobby. None of us are special. A STD can ruin your marriage and in turn your relationship with the kid.

Last advice if you have fun outside the house is don't give up on wifey. Don't be afraid to tell her what you want and enjoy. I've worked on that and it's not perfect but the 80/20 rule at home has helped me keep the hobby in check just enough.

[Ron M]

I hit 41 a couple months ago and my LL wife is lower and lower as time passes. After having a kid, she never shed her mom bod. I am finally getting into some stable income and reading this forum is helping me build up the courage to enjoy myself. One life to live and I feel like I've worked this hard not to be selfish once in a while.

A few things I need to overcome is not being able to perform (anxiety with a new partner you don't know and I hate condoms), STDs, and potential to be robbed or caught by the Poe Poe. You mongers are building up my courage to go for it though. Just need a little more time to build up the courage to pop the cherry. I need to keep reminding myself that you only live once. For now, I'm living through your guys stories and wisdom. Much appreciated.

At some point you'll have to get in the game yourself. Having fun reading what others have done will get old fast.

[KFire]

I hit 41 a couple months ago and my LL wife is lower and lower as time passes. After having a kid, she never shed her mom bod. I am finally getting into some stable income and reading this forum is helping me build up the courage to enjoy myself. One life to live and I feel like I've worked this hard not to be selfish once in a while.

A few things I need to overcome is not being able to perform (anxiety with a new partner you don't know and I hate condoms), STDs, and potential to be robbed or caught by the Poe Poe. You mongers are building up my courage to go for it though. Just need a little more time to build up the courage to pop the cherry. I need to keep reminding myself that you only live once. For now, I'm living through your guys stories and wisdom. Much appreciated.

You hit the nail right on the head. And seems some of you guys are only in your 30's, imagine when you're in your 50's!. The sad reality is this: this is an addiction for sure, the older you get and the longer you are married the less sex you have with SO and the less aroused you are by them. You were smart in blaming low T with SO as this is a scientific point that men lose T every year after age 25 I think? So you can always say sorry honey I'm not in my 20's anymore.

To the guys saying they feel guilt I will say this. If your SO is not doing it for you at home, you deserve to have your needs met. You do need to be careful but if you can afford it go for it, you only live once! I have a close friend in his mid 50's who was married for several years, never cheated, and then found out the wife was cheating on him and feels he lost a lot of time and experiences he could have been having. Have no regrets!

[ZzTopSterZz]

You hit the nail right on the head. And seems some of you guys are only in your 30's, imagine when you're in your 50's!. The sad reality is this: this is an addiction for sure, the older you get and the longer you are married the less sex you have with SO and the less aroused you are by them. You were smart in blaming low T with SO as this is a scientific point that men lose T every year after age 25 I think? So you can always say sorry honey I'm not in my 20's anymore.

To the guys saying they feel guilt I will say this. If your SO is not doing it for you at home, you deserve to have your needs met. You do need to be careful but if you can afford it go for it, you only live once! I have a close friend in his mid 50's who was married for several years, never cheated, and then found out the wife was cheating on him and feels he lost a lot of time and experiences he could have been having. Have no regrets!

We could have another thread called "what I learned in 25 years of marriage". If you want a good sex life then treat her well. Women are turned on by relationships as much as bodies. Someone once said foreplay begins at breakfast. And do what you need to remove daily life's problems and distractions. Take some of your monger money to hire a cleaning lady, to take her out on a dinner date. I'm not naive. My s / o let her body go and is not as attractive as she used to be, doesn't feel sexy to herself and doesn't have the sex drive she used to have. No amount of flowers and kindness will solve that overnight if ever, so we are dealing with some constraints but I try to make the best of the situation.

Getting to the actual acts, I'll say it's important to talk openly. The good escorts and good massage ladies are good because they've learned to enjoy their bodies, they've learned what men like, they listen to verbal and non-verbal signals, and they are 100% focused on you having a good time, which may or may not include their physical pleasure. Some guys who are not satisfied at home may not be talking about what they want. Talk outside the moment about your sex life. What do you like, how often do you want sex, what are your fantasies. Let her know that you sometimes just want to be the focus of attention (but be sure you reciprocate). Talk during sex about what feels good and what you want to do or what you want her to do. If s / o is prudish it can take a long time to gradually get to the full conversation you want to have but if you are in a long term relationship there's time to explore and evolve. Every woman wants to be good in bed just like every guy.

To give an example, my wife had no idea how to give head when we started. She just thought the goal was to get me off and jackhammered it. Now she knows I sometimes want a quickie and sometime want a long lingering hand / blow job while we watch tv. She's learned to do certain things with her mouth and tongue that feel great and how to play with my balls, etc. If you don't tell her what feels good she'll never know so don't blame her. It's well worth the effort. Now my wife can't take it very deep and she hates cim, so that's a bummer. She will take a load every once in a while but I don't enjoy it as much knowing she doesn't like it. So I used to fill that desire elsewhere but now I worry about the rise of std's.

We are far from perfect. I monger for a bunch of things my s / o can't provide due to her interests and availability. She works hard and travels. She's happy with sex once a week at best and I'm horny all the time. I enjoy being the center of attention. I enjoy roaming on attractive women's bodies and seeing a bunch of different tits and pussies (and at my age any typical 40-something MILF counts as young and hot). I love a quality massage. I enjoy the challenge of visiting a legit therapist and seeing what I can get away with. I like euro's because we can talk about travel and food and culture. I like the variety of different finishing techniques. Call it research. I like a little dirty talk and yeah I absolutely love a good BBBJCIM from time to time. Nqns don't pull off and hold me in there until I go limp! And if I invest an hour in this hobby the rest of my day is far more productive without porn, jerking off and fantasies.

Just do what you can at home and be honest with yourself, if not your s / o, about why you are in this hobby. Also heed AngelBravo’s excellent advice about inadvertently programming your mind and body in ways that guarantee failure at home.

Zz out.

[MikeJones333]

Wow, I am right there (on the not aroused part). My SO is sure I have low T and low interest. If our differences could be worked out, I would do it at home and might be able to just dabble on my birthday and rare special occasions.

You hit the nail right on the head. And seems some of you guys are only in your 30's, imagine when you're in your 50's!. The sad reality is this: this is an addiction for sure, the older you get and the longer you are married the less sex you have with SO and the less aroused you are by them. You were smart in blaming low T with SO as this is a scientific point that men lose T every year after age 25 I think? So you can always say sorry honey I'm not in my 20's anymore.

To the guys saying they feel guilt I will say this. If your SO is not doing it for you at home, you deserve to have your needs met. You do need to be careful but if you can afford it go for it, you only live once! I have a close friend in his mid 50's who was married for several years, never cheated, and then found out the wife was cheating on him and feels he lost a lot of time and experiences he could have been having. Have no regrets!

[OneRoadToWest]

Telegram, search @hkgirls4. It will lead you to most of the agencies.

Nice Bro! I used to play in HK from 141, it was common to pay 8 to 12 roses for younger girls, but I didn't know there existed 18-19 ones. I think I was able to sample mostly 22-23's. This was like a good 7-8 years ago.

[OF Charlie]

What app are you using to find these arrangements? How did you figure out where to go in China? I ask because I'm going to be in Guangzhou and Beijing next April, and wanted to set something up.

Telegram, search @hkgirls4. It will lead you to most of the agencies.

[OF Charlie]

How much for the 18 year olds? Can English only speakers participate?

There are a few agencies that have 18 yr olds. They all advertise on Telegram. If you have Telegram, search @hkgirls4. It will lead you to most of the agencies.

The prices that I have seen for 18 yr old BBFS with cip ranges from 2000 to 2500 HKD. The exchange rate when you google is 1 USD to 7. 8 HKD. But when you actually exchange the money, the exchange rate is closer to 7. 45. So that is about 270 to 335 USD. Expensive, but hey 18 yr old pussy isn't cheap, especially when it's BBFS with cip. But if you don't need BBFS, they can be had for around 1600 to 1900 HKD.

As to your second question, the booker did ask me if I was a foreigner. Booker said the girl doesn't see foreigners. Not sure if it was the agency's policy or if it was just the girl's own preference. If I had to guess, it's this particular girl as I have seen reviews that they post in English.

[Illinois Guy 7]

As a monger that has been doing this for 12 years now in my mid 30's I have zero regrets my only concern is how can I keep hiding the fact that I'm no longer that aroused by my SO. .....


WSB.

Wow, I am right there (on the not aroused part). My SO is sure I have low T and low interest. If our differences could be worked out, I would do it at home and might be able to just dabble on my birthday and rare special occasions.

[Al Melrose]

How much for the 18 year olds? Can English only speakers participate?

[AngelBravo]

As a monger that has been doing this for 12 years now in my mid 30's I have zero regrets my only concern is how can I keep hiding the fact that I'm no longer that aroused by my SO. That is the challenge that is leading to questions. As some of you maybe aware of I have to get std testing regularly as if I show up with anything at home its game over and separation time. As many other have suggested make sure you turn off any find your iPhone location apps. Have a separate phone or apps as pinger or google voice, and DELETE them off your phone when your done. finally keep a separate checking account at some random bank that only you have access to and you will zelle money to that account that way if wifey ever asks you oh its a savings account you been putting away money at .
end of story its Been 12 years strong that ive been in the game, I have doubts with new talent today and i want to stop sometimes but the thrill is worth it to me. SO play at your own risk


WSB.

The truth is, if you keep banging other girls, you will only grow less interested in having sex with your SO. You may not realize it but you are slowly programming your sexual preference. It isn't even the girl or the type of pussy, it's just the thrill of banging someone new and the power you have over them.

The only thing you have to ask yourself if you know you get an STD, or your SO finds out it's game over at home and separation time; is that the gamble your willing to take. There might be a 5% chance you'll catch an STD or get caught up, but the longer you play this game the higher chances that will come to fruition. Think of it as rolling a 100 sided dice; the more you keep rolling your bound to hit a 1-5 number; So the question then remains, how much are you willing to risk, do you know what your risking and if you do then prepare for it now as it seems inevitable it will eventually come. Do you really think you will stop on your own? Nope, not until something happens. It is an addiction after all and you should be aware of it.

[Llamama]

If you ever find yourself in Hong Kong, be careful about fucking 18 yr old BBFS with CIP. Especially double BBFS with cip in each girl. I did both and I think my life is changed.

What app are you using to find these arrangements? How did you figure out where to go in China? I ask because I'm going to be in Guangzhou and Beijing next April, and wanted to set something up.