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  1. #4416
    Quote Originally Posted by Tophat31  [View Original Post]
    Website is down. Didn't think they were related to what I saw on the news.
    Yes they must have heard the news decided to pause their operation who know when they will back.

  2. #4415
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1948

    Try discovering the wide world of independents.

    Quote Originally Posted by RJKing1221  [View Original Post]
    I know everyone is talking about the busts.

    My usual are shutdown llva, sa, apc, bo.

    Where is one supposed to go in the interim?
    It takes a bit of homework, but there are plenty out there who don't require PII. Use the various forums to research well-reviewed providers and ask questions, if needed. I know this is an agency-focused forum but, considering current circumstances, safety is an understandable concern. The agencies you cited are certainly concerned about their own safety, which is why they've hit the pause button.

  3. #4414

    Ag

    AG looks like they're still up and running.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBoy11  [View Original Post]
    I have the same question, LOL.

  4. #4413

    Meh with XOC

    Quote Originally Posted by KylerMurray  [View Original Post]
    I still miss XOC boys. Pretty Russian and EE women at a fairly affordable price (when comparing to indy market). The upcharges were goofy but they literally were bringing in 8/10 minimums with most being 9's and dimes. The game needs a replacement badly.
    XOC was good in the earlier days and I had some fun times with good looking girls, but toward the end they really sucked and I stopped using their service. The girls had severe GPS issues, often under-deliver than promised. My last straw was this girl who listed as CIM greek, but did neither, and after first shot in 30 minutes asked me to shower while I still had 30 min left. I asked second? "no. " massage? "no". I sat there for 5-10 minutes and got pissed off and left. I've complained to the booker but nothing happened.

  5. #4412

    Blueoceanshow

    Website is down. Didn't think they were related to what I saw on the news.

  6. #4411
    Quote Originally Posted by RJKing1221  [View Original Post]
    I know everyone is talking about the busts.

    My usual are shutdown llva, sa, apc, bo.

    Where is one supposed to go in the interim?
    I have the same question, LOL.

  7. #4410

    Bullshit Bigotry!

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Most, if not all, of the women on Eros and Tryst are independents. It's harder to make a trafficking case against indies, and "trafficking" is a ready gateway for the feds to get involved.

    Also, I don't think these cases are about specifically targeting providers who might have high-profile client lists. It seems to me that the article is simply pointing out what prosecutors are likely to do when such a list falls into their hands.

    I know this thread is dedicated to agencies, but I made the point in the News and Media thread that (IMO) independent providers are a safer way to go.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6672253
    We all know that none of the girls at BTT were trafficked! They all were as independent as the girls on Eros.com or Tryst. Link and all those girls on those escort platforms have pimps. Unfortunately, Feds circus show ended short. Federal judges hate prostitution case, and now USA is responsible to protect and care for the victimless victims. HSI and MA government must protect and care those girls they arrested. If those namely victims reappear in this field as sex workers, USA is responsible for allowing the namely victims into the sexual exploitation by the US citizens!

  8. #4409
    Quote Originally Posted by Xonms  [View Original Post]
    Is it better for agency to have girls incall in hotel only as opposed to an apartments?
    Apartments are cheaper for the agency and easier to deal with logistically; laundry rooms in the apartment for towels and sheets, bigger spaces / ladies get a place to relax, kitchens for food. All the same reasons people prefer a home over living in a hotel.

    The apartments are also a nicer experience for mongers. I find that the condo setup just feels "homey", the room can be customized for better views, there is a sense of familiarity in going to the same place, etc.

  9. #4408
    Quote Originally Posted by Max#01  [View Original Post]
    A hotel room is significantly more expensive than renting an apartment or condo.
    Oh okay I see.

  10. #4407
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1184
    Quote Originally Posted by Xonms  [View Original Post]
    Is it better for agency to have girls incall in hotel only as opposed to an apartments?
    A hotel room is significantly more expensive than renting an apartment or condo.

  11. #4406

    Apt vs hotel?

    Is it better for agency to have girls incall in hotel only as opposed to an apartments?

  12. #4405

    They rebranded?

    Quote Originally Posted by DCHung  [View Original Post]
    If you're going in the way back machine. I miss travelingbrazilians. My favorite was a legit former miss Brazil.
    Isn't that agency still around? They primarily bring girls thru to Conn. And Baltimore? They have brought a few girls to Tysons. I used that shop before. They rebranded to lviplist I believe.

  13. #4404

    So in the interim?

    I know everyone is talking about the busts.

    My usual are shutdown llva, sa, apc, bo.

    Where is one supposed to go in the interim?

  14. #4403
    Quote Originally Posted by KylerMurray  [View Original Post]
    I still miss XOC boys. Pretty Russian and EE women at a fairly affordable price (when comparing to indy market). The upcharges were goofy but they literally were bringing in 8/10 minimums with most being 9's and dimes. The game needs a replacement badly.
    XOC and BEG / BTT shared many similarities. Multiple girls on tour at multiple cities at the same time. Girls from eastern part of Europe vs eastern part of Asia. Good value for the consistent to impressive level of service and quality. Reliable to SOTA booking process. Some girls do multiple repeated tours and some do one or two tours and are never seen again. Some are university graduates and regional athletes. And to top it all, some girls are good enough to have worked as models or singers, and this is their best option to earn good money quickly. Never was there any hints that any of them are compelled into this line of work by "force, fraud or coercion," the essential elements of legal trafficking. May both XOC and BEG / BTT rest in peace.

  15. #4402
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2088
    Quote Originally Posted by KylerMurray  [View Original Post]
    I still miss XOC boys. Pretty Russian and EE women at a fairly affordable price (when comparing to indy market). The upcharges were goofy but they literally were bringing in 8/10 minimums with most being 9's and dimes. The game needs a replacement badly.
    If you're going in the way back machine. I miss travelingbrazilians. My favorite was a legit former miss Brazil.

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