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**Old Chinese Guy** · 08-24-23 08:33

Originally Posted by VictorSmitham [View Original Post]

I have met quite a few women on seeking but I haven't slept with any of them. I am married and in need of some intimacy. The girls on seeking find me attractive and are ready for an arrangement but I always question whether they will actually be exclusive if I ask them. I see many of you asking to sleep with women without protection. How are you gauging if this will be safe? Do you ask them about it? Are you on an HIV preventative medication for this lifestyle? I want to be able to get out of my compulsiveness about diseases but what can I do? Please don't be mean about your answers, as this is a serious question for me. Thanks so much!!

I was in the same boat as you, 17 years, no intimacy, sought sex with SBs. Relationship ended, am in a much better one, sex better but still not ideal (she looks like Barbie and is a nympho because she has trouble cumming but she gives the best BJs), but sex never is except in rare cases. I find it would have been better to work on my real relationship than have a fake sex-based one with SBs. It all depends on what you want, sex with a variety of women, or work on existing real relationship with spouse / gf and make it better but SBs don't really give you real intimacy. They are in it for the money and you are paying them for sex, different dynamic which will never change and translate into a real relationship. Am sure some have progressed their SB relationship into a permanent real one but I'd say more the exception than the norm.

**ScBake50** · 08-24-23 07:46

Has anyone tried both? Which one is better?

**VictorSmitham** · 08-24-23 00:11

Originally Posted by AnonDemon69 [View Original Post]

I am new to this SD game, only been like 9 months in (but I have also read lots of great posts here and in the Richmond forum). I have a met a few (one which I still see since I started this), and in my experience, they are not interested in being "exclusive". They make more money by having multiple SD's that give them either average allowances or just PPM. They only need to have a Part-Time job if they maintain these type of arrangements. If you want to be exclusive, then get ready to pay a very high allowance and you have to see the SB very frequently otherwise she will still go around with other guys to make even more cash. Most of these girls are in this lifestyle because they need the money and would not date you if it was not for that reason. Even if they do like you, as is my current case, the girl might not want an actual boyfriend, so she won't commit to being exclusive. The fact that the relationship started with money already puts a barrier in them liking for "real". There are exemptions, but I am just stating the norm.

As far as protection goes. You be the judge of that, I have done without it and thankfully disease free. I just get to know the girl a bit and ask for test results. It did not happen for me until at least the 2nd or 3rd meet. Although it's never 100% safe since she is sleeping around with others, sometimes you just take the risk and go with it. I think of it as the same as meeting someone at a bar and then sleeping with them. Many times people forget to use protection cause they are drunk. Just wear protection in the beginning and see how things from there.

Thanks so much for that AnonDemon. I met this super sexy half Chinese half Thai hottie. We have great phone chemistry, she finds me attractive, and she wants to do an exclusive but is asking for an insane amount. $5 k + gifts. I live an hour from her so we would be able to meet maybe once every week or two. But you're right. What would stop.

Her from making more money with another SD on that days she doesn't meet with me? I don't think I can do this. It's a lot of money and that trust will never be there.

**AnonDemon69** · 08-23-23 22:49

Originally Posted by VictorSmitham [View Original Post]

I have met quite a few women on seeking but I haven't slept with any of them. I am married and in need of some intimacy. The girls on seeking find me attractive and are ready for an arrangement but I always question whether they will actually be exclusive if I ask them. I see many of you asking to sleep with women without protection. How are you gauging if this will be safe? Do you ask them about it? Are you on an HIV preventative medication for this lifestyle? I want to be able to get out of my compulsiveness about diseases but what can I do? Please don't be mean about your answers, as this is a serious question for me. Thanks so much!!

I am new to this SD game, only been like 9 months in (but I have also read lots of great posts here and in the Richmond forum). I have a met a few (one which I still see since I started this), and in my experience, they are not interested in being "exclusive". They make more money by having multiple SD's that give them either average allowances or just PPM. They only need to have a Part-Time job if they maintain these type of arrangements. If you want to be exclusive, then get ready to pay a very high allowance and you have to see the SB very frequently otherwise she will still go around with other guys to make even more cash. Most of these girls are in this lifestyle because they need the money and would not date you if it was not for that reason. Even if they do like you, as is my current case, the girl might not want an actual boyfriend, so she won't commit to being exclusive. The fact that the relationship started with money already puts a barrier in them liking for "real". There are exemptions, but I am just stating the norm.

As far as protection goes. You be the judge of that, I have done without it and thankfully disease free. I just get to know the girl a bit and ask for test results. It did not happen for me until at least the 2nd or 3rd meet. Although it's never 100% safe since she is sleeping around with others, sometimes you just take the risk and go with it. I think of it as the same as meeting someone at a bar and then sleeping with them. Many times people forget to use protection cause they are drunk. Just wear protection in the beginning and see how things from there.

**VictorSmitham** · 08-23-23 22:38

Originally Posted by RudyWellz [View Original Post]

I am married 20+ years and in need of intimacy too. You are not unique. Overwhelmingly, SB's are not looking for exclusivity from us. In general, they get cash / experiences from us, and we get sex / intimacy from them. They get their companionship (boyfriends / future husbands) from younger, civilian guys, not SD's. Of course there are outlier experiences, but this is The Game.

Everyone has their own appetite for sexual risks. You do what makes you comfortable, and don't let anyone's risk tolerance (mine is high. I hate condoms) affect your choices. If you don't want any diseases, use condoms. Easy and problem solved. My experience, is just that. My own unique experience, and it shouldn't be extrapolated. I've had predominantly unprotected sex in the sugarbowl for 10 years and remain disease free. Try to make intelligent choices. Whatever that means. Maybe I'm lucky? Maybe next week, my fortune changes. I am willing to take that risk.

Thanks so much, Rudy. It's tough man. Some of these seeking girls are so damn hot. I've met some 8's and 9's for sure but can't seem to get out of my own head and pull the trigger. I'm 42 years old, been married 15 years and haven't had sex with my wife more than 50 times in all those years. There is only so much you can do on your own or visit only so many massage parlors for a handy. I'm scared as hell to bring some disease home. Maybe I don't know enough about communicable or blood borne diseases which is making me more nervous than I should be. Even with the use of condoms. Some of the girls I've met actually say they prefer exclusive arrangements and are asking for anywhere between $400 - $800 PPM or $2,500 - a whopping $7,000 for an exclusive monthly arrangement!! Who knows if they are saying the same to multiple SDs. I don't have time to date in the traditional sense or go on Tinder, Bumble or the other umpteen dating sites. I really appreciate your being so candid and wish you all the best.

**Rudy Wellz** · 08-23-23 22:20

Originally Posted by VictorSmitham [View Original Post]

I have met quite a few women on seeking but I haven't slept with any of them. I am married and in need of some intimacy. The girls on seeking find me attractive and are ready for an arrangement but I always question whether they will actually be exclusive if I ask them. I see many of you asking to sleep with women without protection. How are you gauging if this will be safe? Do you ask them about it? Are you on an HIV preventative medication for this lifestyle? I want to be able to get out of my compulsiveness about diseases but what can I do? Please don't be mean about your answers, as this is a serious question for me. Thanks so much!!

I am married 20+ years and in need of intimacy too. You are not unique. Overwhelmingly, SB's are not looking for exclusivity from us. In general, they get cash / experiences from us, and we get sex / intimacy from them. They get their companionship (boyfriends / future husbands) from younger, civilian guys, not SD's. Of course there are outlier experiences, but this is The Game.

Everyone has their own appetite for sexual risks. You do what makes you comfortable, and don't let anyone's risk tolerance (mine is high. I hate condoms) affect your choices. If you don't want any diseases, use condoms. Easy and problem solved. My experience, is just that. My own unique experience, and it shouldn't be extrapolated. I've had predominantly unprotected sex in the sugarbowl for 10 years and remain disease free. Try to make intelligent choices. Whatever that means. Maybe I'm lucky? Maybe next week, my fortune changes. I am willing to take that risk.

**VictorSmitham** · 08-23-23 22:16

Originally Posted by RudyWellz [View Original Post]

We met, hit it off and had a few "dates". Thought is was going well. She then ended our arrangement in favor of "civilian dating". Profile is not active to me. Wonder if her profile is active to others, or if she's really off Seeking?

Just set up another profile without any pics and limited info. It only will take you a few minutes and you can check out who blocked you. That's how I found out a girl that told me she is civilian dating continued to be on Seeking.

**Lodzvisiter** · 08-23-23 21:08

Originally Posted by JonFisher [View Original Post]

Did you see her. Anyone else has any info?

I've seen her a bunch in the past. Still surprises me that she gives out her real name. Cool girl. Can PM for details if you want.

**VictorSmitham** · 08-23-23 20:59

I have met quite a few women on seeking but I haven't slept with any of them. I am married and in need of some intimacy. The girls on seeking find me attractive and are ready for an arrangement but I always question whether they will actually be exclusive if I ask them. I see many of you asking to sleep with women without protection. How are you gauging if this will be safe? Do you ask them about it? Are you on an HIV preventative medication for this lifestyle? I want to be able to get out of my compulsiveness about diseases but what can I do? Please don't be mean about your answers, as this is a serious question for me. Thanks so much!!

**Rudy Wellz** · 08-23-23 20:54

We met, hit it off and had a few "dates". Thought is was going well. She then ended our arrangement in favor of "civilian dating". Profile is not active to me. Wonder if her profile is active to others, or if she's really off Seeking?

**JonFisher** · 08-23-23 20:32

I guess I was bored. But SA has more bots and pros and semi-pros and professional SBs and escorts than.

**Tophat31** · 08-23-23 20:27

Originally Posted by Tophat31 [View Original Post]

She is from Arlington. I spoke with her about 3 years ago on SA and we moved to snap. She is very attractive and sent me videos and pics of her getting it on with a girl. We couldn't agree to terms. She wanted 1 k per meet and condoms. Honestly if it was unprotected I might have considered bc her body is that good.

Anyways bc I had her snap, I got her IG and followed her over the years. She ended up getting a much older boyfriend and followed him on IG too. This guy looked pretty well off and would always upload IG stories about her. This went on for about 1. 5 years and looks like he had even bought her a art business for her, guessing she is an artist.

So I noticed that the dude scrubbed his account and she no longer is in any photos. I'm not going to lie, the dude seemed kinda weird (sorry if you are reading this) but looks like he has moved on to a new SB / GF and posts about her now. Not sure what happened.

Anyways my SA subscription is about to run out so just been monitoring the messages and lo and behold. She messages me. I recognized her right away. We moved to text and she immediately sends me nudes and says she can meet right now but her one rule is condoms. I pushed back a little and she then ghosted me before we could get to price. She had blocked me on SA so no link to share.

She's right back to where she started messaging dudes on SA. If you are interested in her then be direct, open to condoms right away, and ready to pay a premium. Could be worth it over time.

I guess this was a classic seeking arrangements love story that has ended LOL.

If you are blocked then you can access messages but not the profile. Tried a few times. There has been references to former usernames, didn't record them as it has been many years. Liberty university? No idea.

However here are the text photos. Have fun.

**Rudy Wellz** · 08-23-23 19:28

When searching for a new SB, occasionally see NSA and platonic in the same profile. Has anyone had success getting CBD's with a SB having this profile combo?

**Rudy Wellz** · 08-23-23 18:00

Originally Posted by JonFisher [View Original Post]

Did you see her. Anyone else has any info?

I wrote a nice intro message which she favorably responded. Shared my private photos with her and received a compliment. But, then nothing when I suggested we meet in public for dinner and drinks. Followed up again a few weeks later, but still no response.