Non Pro's

[Irwin18]

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-0821f52fc6a4

[HelloThar]

I've actually already blocked the bottom two in my previous report, so can't check the names anymore. Should be Lealeone and Khloebaby or something. If anyone wants to correct me, feel free.

Reminder for others that it's easy for people to change their usernames. I don't know how some people add emojis to it, seeking doesn't let me add special characters, and I've seen hearts in people's usernames.

I sometimes do wildcard keyword searches here by typing the last random digits of the seeking profile URL, I. E. *fa1fbebea1a7* and it should pop up if someone's mentioned it in a previous report.

[MilfHunter66]

Guys for your contributions to be truly effective in the longer term people should be able to find them. If people are looking for info on a particular profile in SA, if you post the username and your contribution is relevant it would be returned.

Edited my post to include usernames.

[DelToro]

Guys for your contributions to be truly effective in the longer term people should be able to find them. If people are looking for info on a particular profile in SA, if you post the username and your contribution is relevant it would be returned.

[MilfHunter66]

This one gave me a real good story

Brown eyes

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...3-fa1fbebea1a7

Once she realized I wasn't falling for it the communication stopped and she blocked me. Then today I see a new profile for her. It's interesting the level of BS theses ladies can come up with LOL.

This one seemed ready and was pushing for a quick meetup.

Boldandblunt

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-5c29fc3831b0

Every time I tried setting something up there was a lame excuse. Today it was her mom had a heart attack. But she was still active on seeking.

These ladies are just looking for something for nothing.

[HelloThar]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...0-e811506a9276

Time waster / newbie who expected free money.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...6-eef1e9284477

Time waster / newbie. Somehow just ignored everything in my first message and wanted me to explain terms. That or high, was weird.

[HelloThar]

Kay can host but she prefers not to, and definitely wouldn't the first time you hook up with her.

Thanks for the info. I'm too lazy to work through that, especially since the one I'm seeing now is similar in looks, location, and rate but so much more easygoing all around. That, and I don't have a boat, LOL.

[MaCross19]

Kay can host but she prefers not to, and definitely wouldn't the first time you hook up with her.

[HelloThar]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...3-4d5ce4e1193c

Can host for $400, but don't have any other info. Apparently she's been reported here before a couple years back but no information was given other than through DMs. She's one among many I messaged but not interested after looking at her pics again.

Kay.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...d-ad9053658db4

Best sex I have ever had on the site but she is picky as hell. She likes boats so if you have a boat that will help. We ended up doing $500 per meet. Again best sex I have ever had on here's but then she ghosted.

Her pictures look great, but damn, you can tell she's high maintenance in that bio. I actually had her hidden, but I'm sure a lot of guys wouldn't mind even a one and done if they get the same experience at that rate. Can she host at all?

Anyone else notice if they have a shitload of items on their wishlist, it's almost always a red flag, LOL.

Thanks for the shoutout, its nice to see that ones contributions are appreciated.

It also helps I think with the hesitant newbies as they get a bit overwhelmed by the directness and do not engage with me. I have not met many newbies, and the couple that I did were absolute gems.

Also at some point once we are on text, I initiate sexting, if I can not openly chat about how we are going to fuck, then the probability of that actually happen is going to be low, I rather know in advance and not waste my time on a M&G. Its also a good way to figure what they are comfortable doing. I never directly ask about BB or Anal, I just describe it on the things we could do and let them respond to that, if they say, that sounds great, then you are good to go

Being direct while respectful works well. My closing percentage on the first M&G is around 90%, because by that point its pretty obvious what we both want, but I always give them the option to back down as pressuring them would end up on a poor experience.

I wouldn't mind meeting a newbie, though I can tell it's definitely going to be rare. I like the fact that it's generally clearcut if they get overwhelmed at least as it makes passing or continuing the process easier. If there's any doubt whatsoever in their responses, it's almost always not going to continue from there.

I'm probably a bit more reserved on sexting unless they start it themselves, but I don't blame you for initiating it as a means to see how they respond or if they have certain boundaries. I'd probably just straight up ask them the latter, LOL, but then again I'm not looking for anything too specific. Yet.

Also agree that M&G should basically be a formality as long as you aren't a creep and filtered well by that point. I'm also of the same idea that if they don't enjoy the experience, I won't either, so I make sure to emphasize that.

[DelToro]

Michael, you and DelToro, among others here are definitely the go to's for experience. The ones that can admit what they're doing and not let it bother them are the ones getting shit done and being rewarded for it, and that's exactly what most guys want. It's a wakeup call for everyone else.

Thanks for the shoutout, its nice to see that ones contributions are appreciated.

I'm with some of the others on here and agree that being direct and fairly explicit, but respectful is best. I just don't have the patience to beat around the bush (heh). You might miss out on some that you could grind out and work with, but I don't mind that if it means weeding out a majority of time wasters, scammers, or those looking for something serious, one or two messages in or sooner..

To me that has worked well. I can go several times so I make sure that the expectation of multiples is there. Many do not reply when I reach but when they do, there is no doubt that fucking several times is the expectation, if we match and reach and agreement, etc. I also mention that I am looking for something consistent, and its true, its hard for me to find somebody that can keep up, when that happens I want to keep seeing them. They definitely like the idea that is not just a hook up.

It also helps I think with the hesitant newbies as they get a bit overwhelmed by the directness and do not engage with me. I have not met many newbies, and the couple that I did were absolute gems.

Also at some point once we are on text, I initiate sexting, if I can not openly chat about how we are going to fuck, then the probability of that actually happen is going to be low, I rather know in advance and not waste my time on a M&G. Its also a good way to figure what they are comfortable doing. I never directly ask about BB or Anal, I just describe it on the things we could do and let them respond to that, if they say, that sounds great, then you are good to go

Being direct while respectful works well. My closing percentage on the first M&G is around 90%, because by that point its pretty obvious what we both want, but I always give them the option to back down as pressuring them would end up on a poor experience.

[BoBroBgobs]

It is actually the opposite. The fat one requires condoms. But I don't want to pay $800 for one hot girl.

And I'd use a condom if I were you with the hot one as well. I had seen her like a year back (I think I had posted a report saying she gave a very pro vibe), and then recently a couple of months ago. During the recent one, we got talking and it seems she basically likes getting hammered and carelessly fuck anyone and everyone. She was telling stories about getting taken advantage of and getting stds like it was nothing. I never bring protection into the conversation, if it ever does I have my reports ready. This time I had a condom in my hand in no time.

[MaCross19]

Kay.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...d-ad9053658db4

Best sex I have ever had on the site but she is picky as hell. She likes boats so if you have a boat that will help. We ended up doing $500 per meet. Again best sex I have ever had on here's but then she ghosted.

[HelloThar]

I'm very thankfull for all the good info too.

It's definitely a learning curve. I'm not new to seeing "escorts" but this whole non pro but kinda a pro thing is still new.

I have had really good luck picking escorts. Never been robbed and only had a couple bad experiances.

The two three months stints on seeking has been a eyeopener.

Thanks again for all the help.

Same for me as well with my minimal experience. There's just little to think about when booking a pro, but anyone on seeking takes some finesse to get to that point much akin to dating.

One thing I've been dealing with lately is reflecting on what kind of relationship I'd want or how to balance liking a non-pro without getting overly attached. The transactional nature of things and me not wanting any commitment makes it so I don't think I ever will, but it's definitely more difficult to distance yourself versus pros. There's just a lot more intangibles to enjoy in addition to the usual, especially if you pick ones that are sincere and genuine (or who are good at acting as much).

[MilfHunter66]

Michael, you and DelToro, among others here are definitely the go to's for experience. The ones that can admit what they're doing and not let it bother them are the ones getting shit done and being rewarded for it, and that's exactly what most guys want. It's a wakeup call for everyone else.

I'm very thankfull for all the good info too.

It's definitely a learning curve. I'm not new to seeing "escorts" but this whole non pro but kinda a pro thing is still new.

I have had really good luck picking escorts. Never been robbed and only had a couple bad experiances.

The two three months stints on seeking has been a eyeopener.

Thanks again for all the help.

[HelloThar]

I've mentioned this many times and it's one of the reasons I avoid newbies. Many women think that they can fuck some guy for money. They think about the bar hookups they had, the drunken nights where they took some guy home etc. ,. They figure if they had lots of sex with random men and got nothing out of it, then it should be a no brainer to fuck a guy that actually gives them something. One of my favorite sayings that I invented is, "it's all fun and games until the dick comes out" TM. They have this fantasy of all the money they will make, all the nice restaurants they will go to, all the trips they will take, but at some point, when it comes time to actually put out, they realize that sugar babies are basically hookers with a publicist. No matter what spin you put on it, if you're fucking for money then you're a hooker. Some people are just fine with that; most are not. Once you fuck for money, you can't feel superior and look down on the other women that you probably called hobags or skanks in the past. So, you have a lot of newbies that bail when it comes time to meet.

Michael, you and DelToro, among others here are definitely the go to's for experience. The ones that can admit what they're doing and not let it bother them are the ones getting shit done and being rewarded for it, and that's exactly what most guys want. It's a wakeup call for everyone else.