NoVA SugarBabies

[HeyDuhman]

Guys,

For those of you who typically do an in person m&g to check the vibes, chemistry, discuss arrangement details etc.

I seem to be getting a greater than 50% failure rate.

Meaning after m&g where I want to pursue date 2 with sex etc., more than half the girls are ghosting (not counting the ones where I am not interested after m&g).

I never pay any gifts, allowances, or even gas / uber expense for m&g and usually do it low cost / coffee / drinks / walk in park so damages are minimal.

But is this kind of normal? It matches the normal hinge / tinder dating rate for me tbh when about half the girls (or women because I date closer to my age) don't text back / ghost after date 1 but I was thinking with sugaring the guys would be in a better position.

I'm almost 50, maybe a bit better than average looking and always fun, friendly, chill, mature and laid back. Hopefully I am not giving off "cheap" vibes because I don't pay over market value which to me is still 5-600 for the hottest. I'm guessing since I only m&g with the hottest who are asking for 1 k then ok with 800 and finally give in to 5-600 . When they go back they just lose interest in my offer ("low baller", "time waster" I guess is what they think of me?) and maybe try to find the next 1 k guy?

BUT this ghosting has also happened with girls who I pay exactly what they ask for! So I dunno. Guess for these guys I am just unfuckable no matter the $$.

Thoughts?

[TomFordModel]

Super cute but way out of my price range - $800 ppm or $4 K per month. Whew. Didn't seem interested in a counter-offer. For me at least.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...3-44079d863dd4

I told her I'd meet her for her price let's see what happens.

[TomFordModel]

This one talks a good game, but no m&g or facetime but will do a voice call. AZ area code and she says she is from there. Requires 100 deposit. Blocks if you balk.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...0-4ac4ef0603e0

Pictures stolen from.

https://instagram.com/patricearabell...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

She's too hot for DC. You should know that by now!!

[HeyDuhman]

Getting over it. The limerence didn't last more than a week.

Cost me 500 and a couple hours with my new baby conquest for this week.

Heartbreak is easier to deal these days than when I was 20.

Your brain is on dopamine, lots of it.

Look up limerence. It's a rabbit hole you don't want to go down.

Been there.

[HeyDuhman]

Cute face but looks a bit chunky.

Super cute but way out of my price range - $800 ppm or $4 K per month. Whew. Didn't seem interested in a counter-offer. For me at least.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...3-44079d863dd4

[Mandane]

This one talks a good game, but no m&g or facetime but will do a voice call. AZ area code and she says she is from there. Requires 100 deposit. Blocks if you balk.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...0-4ac4ef0603e0

Pictures stolen from.

https://instagram.com/patricearabell...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[TomFordModel]

Super cute but way out of my price range - $800 ppm or $4 K per month. Whew. Didn't seem interested in a counter-offer. For me at least.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...3-44079d863dd4

I think its a fake profile. Someone offer that amount and see if she meets.

https://www.pinterest.ca/inflatasofa/

[FederalHill]

Super cute but way out of my price range - $800 ppm or $4 K per month. Whew. Didn't seem interested in a counter-offer. For me at least.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...3-44079d863dd4

[SuckeredByaSB]

Unless they're exceptional, I get bored after 3 or 4 dates. It's all about variety for me. If I wanted the same old thing, I wouldn't be here.

I used to be like that, but seeking is such a sewer, the time spent finding a new one is substantial, so many bad people in this game (thieves, blackmailers, etc), the crazy inflation in PPM, so now I stick with long term forever. I'm getting old.

Once these fizzle out I'll either retire or get back on.

[CuriousVaMan]

Unless they're exceptional, I get bored after 3 or 4 dates. It's all about variety for me. If I wanted the same old thing, I wouldn't be here.

I like seeing a SB maybe 2-3 x a month, not 4 x a week.

[SuckeredByaSB]

If you think that's good, you've got problems. That is 104 k a year of after tax money, so something like 170 k of pre-tax money. I make a decent salary for the area and that's almost half my income. All to come in the same pussy four times a week (and when did she say she would give him four dates/16 hours a week for this money?).

Even if you did get 4 dates/16 hours per week, that is an insane amount of time to spend with a side piece who doesn't love you and is just doing it for the money. Why would you or anyone else do this other than complete desperation?

I like seeing a SB maybe 2-3 x a month, not 4 x a week.

[Mcsylv]

If you think that's good, you've got problems. That is 104 k a year of after tax money, so something like 170 k of pre-tax money. I make a decent salary for the area and that's almost half my income. All to come in the same pussy four times a week (and when did she say she would give him four dates/16 hours a week for this money?).

Even if you did get 4 dates/16 hours per week, that is an insane amount of time to spend with a side piece who doesn't love you and is just doing it for the money. Why would you or anyone else do this other than complete desperation?

Then don't pay and go to a 200 ppm girl then.

[Pathfinder04]

2 k a week for 4 dates is 500 a date. If a date is 4 hours, that's 125 an hour. That'd be pretty good for BBFSCIP.

If you think that's good, you've got problems. That is 104 k a year of after tax money, so something like 170 k of pre-tax money. I make a decent salary for the area and that's almost half my income. All to come in the same pussy four times a week (and when did she say she would give him four dates/16 hours a week for this money?).

Even if you did get 4 dates/16 hours per week, that is an insane amount of time to spend with a side piece who doesn't love you and is just doing it for the money. Why would you or anyone else do this other than complete desperation?

[JackRyan1]

I have been sugaring for about 6 years. Not as long as some on this board. Eventually you will catch feeling for a sb and look past everything to good and bad and fall into infatuation. I had one recently, we both had pretty strong feelings and whoa does she have past. The connection is great and the sex is off the chart good. And this 9 months in not two weeks. She stopped asking for money 2 months ago.

Then she starting seeing a civilian and is falling for him but wants to keep seeing me on the side. Her new boy friend is ok with this.

1) it took this to shake me from my day dream.

2) realizing we are both very incompatible out side of sugar.

3) this stuff always ends poorly.

It still happen no matter how long you're in the game. Cut it and move on, in two years she will be back in the game and so will you. Once you are in this lifestyle is is damn near impossible to get out. Money is to good, the variety is great, and the temptation will always lurk.

Or f it. Fall in love and have a happy ending.

Roger that. Take the red pill.

"You take the blue pill, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. ".

For the kids on the short bus. Watch "Thanks for Sharing".

[Cruisin1011]

Your brain is on dopamine, lots of it.

Look up limerence. It's a rabbit hole you don't want to go down.

Been there.

I have been sugaring for about 6 years. Not as long as some on this board. Eventually you will catch feeling for a sb and look past everything to good and bad and fall into infatuation. I had one recently, we both had pretty strong feelings and whoa does she have past. The connection is great and the sex is off the chart good. And this 9 months in not two weeks. She stopped asking for money 2 months ago.

Then she starting seeing a civilian and is falling for him but wants to keep seeing me on the side. Her new boy friend is ok with this.

1) it took this to shake me from my day dream.

2) realizing we are both very incompatible out side of sugar.

3) this stuff always ends poorly.

It still happen no matter how long you're in the game. Cut it and move on, in two years she will be back in the game and so will you. Once you are in this lifestyle is is damn near impossible to get out. Money is to good, the variety is great, and the temptation will always lurk.

Or f it. Fall in love and have a happy ending.