"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HeadKnocker81]

Thanks for the elaboration. Whenever it looks like it's going to head down the P2 P road now, I just tell them that we should talk about arrangements offline because I don't want to violate TOS.

It's not that they can't do it, it is that they won't do it! Point is if they told you, that could be considered "coaching"! Site can not tell you how to get around the TOS.

They know exactly why you were banned, probably have a record of that reason, your IP Address, eMail addy, MAc Addy, CC used, phone #, etc. As your post demonstrates they do track and keep records of who is using the site to keep the bad actors from coming back.

Wider issue is that the passage of FOSTA / SESTA made websites liable for damages. BP got shutdown, so did CXG. Large number of websites, including this one went dark until they could be moved offshore.

So to protect his cash cow, Brandon Wade has changed the focus of the website from sugar dating to regular dating. Now supposedly there are BOTs that scan EVERY email looking for P2 P language and that apparently gets reviewed by a human and then bans issued. I think this is a strategy to provide and affirmative defense - proof that they are not promoting prostitution and do everything in their power to stamp it out.

So anyone who gets back on could be aware that BOTs are scanning emails and make 100% certain that they avoid anything that "looks like" in any shape or form P2 P discussions. I think there are BOT profiles out there as well as over the years have encountered "girls" who have outright asked about P2 P or made inferences, no doubt trying to sucker me into a P2 P discussion so I got banned. In those cases, almost any reply would have been an acceptance of their statement and resulted in a ban. Don't get "set up!" Only reply I could think of was: "what you proposed sounds like P2 P, that is illegal, I do not engage in that activity. " Then I blocked the profile. Could have been a real girl who was naive, but I lived to play another day.

[MulchMan]

I am with you, I love it too! I think that with some guys that have real daughters that it makes them think about that and makes them uncomfortable. I don't have kids so if they want to call me daddy, I am all for it.

I had one tell me spontaneously while doing K9 that she had been a bad girl and that daddy needed to spank her. I gladly obliged and it became part of the routine afterwards. I'd get hard just reading her text messages before our dates.

[RichmondVa]

I've had a friend of mine once tell me that when a girl tried to pull DD / LG on them it was a big turn off for him. I thought to myself he doesn't know what he's missing, send her my way. But it apparently is one of those polarizing kinks that not everyone is keen to and can put some folks off. For that reason I usually don't initiate it with a girl, or I try once and very subtly and if she doesn't respond I don't go there again.

Personally I love it. I used to have a baby that was so into it she would sort of go into character in public places, shamelessly in earshot of people. And yeah I got a few looks and sort of made me uneasy in public. But in private. Wow the fun to be had.

I am with you, I love it too! I think that with some guys that have real daughters that it makes them think about that and makes them uncomfortable. I don't have kids so if they want to call me daddy, I am all for it.

[OliverNP]

Interesting, so she's into DDLG? I had an unreal 27 year old Baby in Raleigh at the beginning of the pandemic. She had just got unemployed as a stripper at The Doll House in Myrtle Beach. Was the Dollhouse Doll Of The Year. As we were texting before met at a hotel near RDU, she told me about her fetish. I didn't think I'd be into it but I was wrong. She was sexy AF, telling me, Please Daddy lick your Babies little pussy. It put me into another gear tearing her up prone bone, trying to push her perfect ass through the hotel mattress. Don't knock it until you try it!

I've had a friend of mine once tell me that when a girl tried to pull DD / LG on them it was a big turn off for him. I thought to myself he doesn't know what he's missing, send her my way. But it apparently is one of those polarizing kinks that not everyone is keen to and can put some folks off. For that reason I usually don't initiate it with a girl, or I try once and very subtly and if she doesn't respond I don't go there again.

Personally I love it. I used to have a baby that was so into it she would sort of go into character in public places, shamelessly in earshot of people. And yeah I got a few looks and sort of made me uneasy in public. But in private. Wow the fun to be had.

[Shampoo55]

I emailed customer service and asked why they banned me and they gave me a bullshit reason about soliciting and I asked them why they allow so many scammers and fakes on with impunity. Then I asked for them to supply proof (said they don't do that for privacy reasons but I'm guessing they couldn't), then I asked nicely how I could get back in their good graces and be a paying customer again and they made me pinky promise swear in writing that I wouldn't violate TOS again. Then they even asked me which email I wanted to use because I had tried to gain entry with multiple. TL; DR. Dunno if I caught someone on a good day but it worked for me.

It's not that they can't do it, it is that they won't do it! Point is if they told you, that could be considered "coaching"! Site can not tell you how to get around the TOS.

They know exactly why you were banned, probably have a record of that reason, your IP Address, eMail addy, MAc Addy, CC used, phone #, etc. As your post demonstrates they do track and keep records of who is using the site to keep the bad actors from coming back.

Wider issue is that the passage of FOSTA / SESTA made websites liable for damages. BP got shutdown, so did CXG. Large number of websites, including this one went dark until they could be moved offshore.

So to protect his cash cow, Brandon Wade has changed the focus of the website from sugar dating to regular dating. Now supposedly there are BOTs that scan EVERY email looking for P2 P language and that apparently gets reviewed by a human and then bans issued. I think this is a strategy to provide and affirmative defense - proof that they are not promoting prostitution and do everything in their power to stamp it out.

So anyone who gets back on could be aware that BOTs are scanning emails and make 100% certain that they avoid anything that "looks like" in any shape or form P2 P discussions. I think there are BOT profiles out there as well as over the years have encountered "girls" who have outright asked about P2 P or made inferences, no doubt trying to sucker me into a P2 P discussion so I got banned. In those cases, almost any reply would have been an acceptance of their statement and resulted in a ban. Don't get "set up!" Only reply I could think of was: "what you proposed sounds like P2 P, that is illegal, I do not engage in that activity. " Then I blocked the profile. Could have been a real girl who was naive, but I lived to play another day.

[HeadKnocker81]

I emailed customer service and asked why they banned me and they gave me a bullshit reason about soliciting and I asked them why they allow so many scammers and fakes on with impunity. Then I asked for them to supply proof (said they don't do that for privacy reasons but I'm guessing they couldn't), then I asked nicely how I could get back in their good graces and be a paying customer again and they made me pinky promise swear in writing that I wouldn't violate TOS again. Then they even asked me which email I wanted to use because I had tried to gain entry with multiple. TL; DR. Dunno if I caught someone on a good day but it worked for me.

Anyone been banned from seeking find away to sign back up?

[Almighty]

Anyone have any dealings with this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...0-9255320f563e

She was in Wv for a while. Had spotty communication with her. Seemed real, but kind of skittish.

[Tidad]

Verified IRL she's new to this and rather hesitant. Will only suck cock, no penetration due to not being on BC. Lame excuse. https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-d2d689eb7c96.

Real cute and fun to chat with. Not her first time. Haven't discussed menus or damage https://members.seeking.com/member/b...c-fc850f0f28d3.

Very fun time. Hot little body. Shy at first but tons of potential with a killer yoga bod. https://members.seeking.com/member/b...8-642d64df856a.

Can't get a reply https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-9ce401603a6f.

Good initial messaging https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-c5422260ea12.

That first girl: not sure about her being "new" to the game. She joined the site in 2018.

[Shampoo55]

Anyone been banned from seeking find away to sign back up?

There has been lots of covo on this topic over time, so a search of "banned" in this thread should provide ample guidance. Don't recall all of the steps but it is INVOLVED. Using diddferent CC (or prepaid), new email addy & phone number, cleaning history, cookies, etc. And a bunch of other steps.

Not an easy task, but can be done. Good luck!

[RegularJoe1985]

Verified IRL she's new to this and rather hesitant. Will only suck cock, no penetration due to not being on BC. Lame excuse. https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-d2d689eb7c96.

She has been discussed earlier and I'm not sure if she's seen anyone.

Though I've heard numerous excuses from her (and from others who got other excuses) including made up story about a guy hurting her etc. And people naively believing her.

[PinkClock]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-02dda7c14a6a

I've seen her a few times and found her to be cool as shit and dtf. She's not a bubbly, GFE or anything, but she's chill and easy to get along with. I've never felt like she was being negative at all and I get along great with her.

I too have never had an issue with her. Frankly, I think she has a phenomenal body and is very kinky. She's right up my alley.

[BlueDrive]

Verified IRL she's new to this and rather hesitant. Will only suck cock, no penetration due to not being on BC. Lame excuse. https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-d2d689eb7c96.

Real cute and fun to chat with. Not her first time. Haven't discussed menus or damage https://members.seeking.com/member/b...c-fc850f0f28d3.

Very fun time. Hot little body. Shy at first but tons of potential with a killer yoga bod. https://members.seeking.com/member/b...8-642d64df856a.

Can't get a reply https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-9ce401603a6f.

Good initial messaging https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-c5422260ea12.

Nice list, I have been chatting with #1 and she never said anything about the restrictions, will report back if anything comes to fruition.

The last one on the list us a scammer / eurobot, should be gone soon if not already.

[Ernest Ll]

Verified IRL — she's new to this and rather hesitant. Will only suck cock, no penetration due to not being on BC. Lame excuse. https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-d2d689eb7c96.

Real cute and fun to chat with. Not her first time. Haven't discussed menus or damage https://members.seeking.com/member/b...c-fc850f0f28d3.

Very fun time. Hot little body. Shy at first but tons of potential with a killer yoga bod. https://members.seeking.com/member/b...8-642d64df856a.

Can't get a reply https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-9ce401603a6f.

Good initial messaging https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-c5422260ea12.

[LolBoat]

The 2010-2017 era is over with, IMO. There are alot less gen Z girls compared to millenials it seems and the economics / dynamics just don't exist anymore. I'm not paying $500+ for a 33 yr old single mom who quite frankly isn't that hot.

Hope things turn around but the whole cam girl thing seems to have taken over or these young girls have found other ways to make $.

[Xaxado]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-02dda7c14a6a

I've seen her a few times and found her to be cool as shit and dtf. She's not a bubbly, GFE or anything, but she's chill and easy to get along with. I've never felt like she was being negative at all and I get along great with her.