Arrangement Reports

[DynoJr]

You are over thinking it big time. While you certainly can get attached to someone over time you'd be surprised how quickly anyone can be forgotten. And you can be replaced just as quickly. This applies to both the guys and the girls. Dive back into SA and boom, you've got new pussy (or $$ source if a SB) to replace the old.

I've had a number of arrangements, too many to count, that were a few months to a 2+ years (and counting) and they've all ended fine. 90% of the time things end when someone ghosts. Ghosting sucks but it's very easy, no (or very minimal) drama, and the other person eventually gets the hint and goes away.

Rule #1 - never stick your dick in crazy. If you don't let a crazy chick into your life to begin with you never have to worry about the consequences of fucking her.

He's dropped a good amount of wisdom and I agree on the ghosting. One girl that I connected with very well told me to just ghost if you want to end it. The GenZs ghost without a second thought and it seem like my (GenX) generation has some need to end things elegantly.

Have you read about employees that just stop showing up for work? It's crazy how much this younger generation just moves on. I recommend you learn from them.

[DynoJr]

Hey man great write up. Couple of things if I read this correctly at one point you were spitting out over 4 gs a month. First off good on you. I make a really good living but no way could I ever find 4 k a month, hell 3 k a month to spit out on the hobby. I couldn't get that much excess spending pass the Warden if I tried. You being single I'm sure plays a huge role in that expenditure. Lastly the more important question. How much "fishing" as you put it did you have to do and was it all on SA? I have to be honest I've had 2 long term arrangements in the past, one just ended a couple months ago and they were both 250 ppm everything goes and I mean everything. I would stack their looks up against any girl on the market. So I say that say it doesn't have to be 400-500 to find quality which is why I'm interested in where you did your fishing the most.

Good write up.

It seems like $500 is the target for everyone I talk to. Some will negotiate down, one I'm seeing I agreed to because she is literally a model with my exact body type. There's another I see for $300 that has lasted for over a year. She's got more rules but probably a 7 face on an 8 body. Both girls are 30 yo, the younger ones seem to think they should make more than they deserve but just aren't skilled enough to get it. My 2 $.

[DWill]

I just entered into a monthly arrangement with a 22 year old former track athlete. Half Polish, half German in a total smoke show however, it is new so we will see how it goes. The monthly amount is $2,400 but with the understanding that she might need a couple hundred more some months just for a little extra spending money. We saw each other three out of the last five days and quickly discussed moving from PPM to a monthly as ppm at the rate I was seeing her would have bankrupted me. Like I said, we will see how it goes. As I have recently been interviewing, I also saw another 22-year-old, very artsy, but her ADHD makes time in bed a real handful, although she is down for anything. Costs $450 PPM plus Uber from the city and back which adds another $120 plus if we go out. In addition, I have started to see a 32 year old school teacher who is super cute and a lot of fun but that is also $450 ppm. I like the 32-year-old the most, but it simply becomes a time and cost issue. I have another I see that is also 32 years old, very pretty Polish girl, but sometimes she drinks heavily and her home life is complicated. I have seen her the longest, almost 18 months but infrequent maybe once a month and no longer provide her with any income when we see each other. The last one that I have also seen recently was also for over a year 22 y / o Polish girl and I would give her 400 for the first visit during the week and 300 for the second if there was a second. I have found most are OK with $400 to $500 ppm. Anyone willing to accept less is probably not worth it, nor anyone looking for more would not be any better than what I am finding at that price point.

I recently concluded a seven month arrangement / relationship with a beautiful 26 year old Special Education Teacher. It started at 500 ppm but then we went to a monthly and she wanted to see me often and I did not feel like becoming bankrupt.

Hey man great write up. Couple of things if I read this correctly at one point you were spitting out over 4 gs a month. First off good on you. I make a really good living but no way could I ever find 4 k a month, hell 3 k a month to spit out on the hobby. I couldn't get that much excess spending pass the Warden if I tried. You being single I'm sure plays a huge role in that expenditure. Lastly the more important question. How much "fishing" as you put it did you have to do and was it all on SA? I have to be honest I've had 2 long term arrangements in the past, one just ended a couple months ago and they were both 250 ppm everything goes and I mean everything. I would stack their looks up against any girl on the market. So I say that say it doesn't have to be 400-500 to find quality which is why I'm interested in where you did your fishing the most.

Good write up.

[Pau Ford]

You are over thinking it big time. While you certainly can get attached to someone over time you'd be surprised how quickly anyone can be forgotten. And you can be replaced just as quickly. This applies to both the guys and the girls. Dive back into SA and boom, you've got new pussy (or $$ source if a SB) to replace the old.

I've had a number of arrangements, too many to count, that were a few months to a 2+ years (and counting) and they've all ended fine. 90% of the time things end when someone ghosts. Ghosting sucks but it's very easy, no (or very minimal) drama, and the other person eventually gets the hint and goes away.

Rule #1 - never stick your dick in crazy. If you don't let a crazy chick into your life to begin with you never have to worry about the consequences of fucking her.

Curious for those of you who have had an SB and at some point ended it. How'd that go? Because really, that's the key part. Some of you have talked about how great it's going and the money and all that while also saying you know you're going to have to end it. That is the part where it can all go to hell. Because if she isn't ready for the allowance and gifts and all that to end, you could be looking at some major headaches. So, has anyone out here have an extended period with an SB and ended it and if so, how did it go? Really, isn't that why we see escorts and go to parlors, because when it's over it's over and we don't have to concern ourselves with any baggage? I agree that the good parts sound great, I'm just concerned about what the end game will be like and if that may ruin everything before it. But maybe I'm too cynical.

[BaltoMan66]

Curious for those of you who have had an SB and at some point ended it. How'd that go? Because really, that's the key part. Some of you have talked about how great it's going and the money and all that while also saying you know you're going to have to end it. That is the part where it can all go to hell. Because if she isn't ready for the allowance and gifts and all that to end, you could be looking at some major headaches. So, has anyone out here have an extended period with an SB and ended it and if so, how did it go? Really, isn't that why we see escorts and go to parlors, because when it's over it's over and we don't have to concern ourselves with any baggage? I agree that the good parts sound great, I'm just concerned about what the end game will be like and if that may ruin everything before it. But maybe I'm too cynical.

I understand your question. While the ladies we meet can be all kinds of nice and fun, they tend to display immaturity or selfishness too. They try to hide it, but I find it comes out eventually. This mixture, in my opinion, can be dangerous for a guy on SA who also has a life (wife). I enter each arrangement thinking about a safe exit. And by that I mean that I set up all facts so that I can disappear at any moment. I use my middle name, which I never use professionally. I tell them I am from a different place than reality. Made up where I was born, grew up, went to school, etc. They don't know my last name either. I use a burner number (of course). I am afraid that someone would want to go scorched earth upon break up. I haven't experienced that yet, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. Most times, you just have a long gap in communication that doesn't link up again.

I had one SB that I saw off and on for almost 5 years (from her being 27-32). She had her issues, but man was she smart, sexy, and just kinky enough. I am pretty sure in real life she likes an older guy. I count myself as lucky because while I am older (58) I am tall, fit, and surprisingly, ladies think I'm pretty good looking. And a larger than average cock with good know how of the female body gives me a plus if we get to play. I love making women cum, over and over. That'll get you plus points every time LOL. But I digress.

Build your exit plan when you start, just in case.

[RitTigers]

Hi,

Just wanted to check if anyone have experience with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-9da3502a13f3

Thank you in advance.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-9da3502a13f3

[FarFarAway]

Curious for those of you who have had an SB and at some point ended it. How'd that go? Because really, that's the key part. Some of you have talked about how great it's going and the money and all that while also saying you know you're going to have to end it. That is the part where it can all go to hell. Because if she isn't ready for the allowance and gifts and all that to end, you could be looking at some major headaches. So, has anyone out here have an extended period with an SB and ended it and if so, how did it go? Really, isn't that why we see escorts and go to parlors, because when it's over it's over and we don't have to concern ourselves with any baggage? I agree that the good parts sound great, I'm just concerned about what the end game will be like and if that may ruin everything before it. But maybe I'm too cynical.

If you've been seeing someone for a few months, you ought to have the sort of relationship that you can phone her and tell her you are stopping, and why. These aren't relationships that are made to last, everyone understands that. The only question is when. I did that with all of the people I broke it off with. This is just a part of the respect I gave them that made the arrangement work for me. If I saw someone just once or twice, and it wasn't worth continuing, I don't have any problem just ghosting.

I had seen a young MILF a couple of times, and I didn't think she was into me. No BJ at all and no DFK. She contacted me again, after a gap in time, and I said exactly what the problem was. She said she didn't realize that was what I wanted. Yeah right. However, she was active in pursuing me after that point, and I FCed her Friday. I had a much much better time.

[RitTigers]

Hi,

Just wanted to check if anyone have experience with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-9da3502a13f3

Thank you in advance.

[Bill Underwood]

I just entered into a monthly arrangement with a 22 year old former track athlete. Half Polish, half German in a total smoke show however, it is new so we will see how it goes. The monthly amount is $2,400 but with the understanding that she might need a couple hundred more some months just for a little extra spending money. We saw each other three out of the last five days and quickly discussed moving from PPM to a monthly as ppm at the rate I was seeing her would have bankrupted me. Like I said, we will see how it goes. As I have recently been interviewing, I also saw another 22-year-old, very artsy, but her ADHD makes time in bed a real handful, although she is down for anything. Costs $450 PPM plus Uber from the city and back which adds another $120 plus if we go out. In addition, I have started to see a 32 year old school teacher who is super cute and a lot of fun but that is also $450 ppm. I like the 32-year-old the most, but it simply becomes a time and cost issue. I have another I see that is also 32 years old, very pretty Polish girl, but sometimes she drinks heavily and her home life is complicated. I have seen her the longest, almost 18 months but infrequent maybe once a month and no longer provide her with any income when we see each other. The last one that I have also seen recently was also for over a year 22 y / o Polish girl and I would give her 400 for the first visit during the week and 300 for the second if there was a second. I have found most are OK with $400 to $500 ppm. Anyone willing to accept less is probably not worth it, nor anyone looking for more would not be any better than what I am finding at that price point.

I recently concluded a seven month arrangement / relationship with a beautiful 26 year old Special Education Teacher. It started at 500 ppm but then we went to a monthly and she wanted to see me often and I did not feel like becoming bankrupt. Also, she understood that if there was no fun time that she was not getting any income for that moment. She was fine with that as sometimes she would just like to come over, hang out, have dinner and watch TV. Eventually we evolved to where I was just paying some of her expenses but eventually she refused to take any money from me as we just ended up dating and she did not want to find a relationship any longer as an arrangement. It ended poorly though as emotionally she could not handle the break up as her family decided to move to Florida, which would mean she would've either had to move in with me, but would lose regular contact with her family and we were too fresh to reasonably make that happen. And when I say it ended badly, I do not mean extreme drama, but we just stopped talking which was disappointing as I was hoping to continue seeing her even in Florida. A little on me, I am 56 but very fit and live alone. Of course finding these girls has required a lot of work I compared to fishing. You have to spend your time sorting through the junk, but there are some diamonds in SA.

Never tried SA but does anyone know what the potential costs can amount to? Sounds like one can strike gold and potentially get a number of meet ups for a couple hundred a month; and no clock. ?

[Degen123]

I hear you man. I'm fortunate that this is my only life. I have no wife and am happily divorced. I'm on SA daily scoping out the hottest new blood. I've got about 10 lined up between $300-$600 ppm. Two cip confirmed and some still working on discussions.

Mainly looking for another hot overnight girl. One that likes to party and a total sub. I know the Unicorn is out there somewhere.

Another month or two and I'll have a full stable and some trades.

FYI. I get a full 10 panel test monthly and bring a plan b pill to be totally safe. A bottle of Prosecco doesn't hurt either.

I tried sending you a DM. Your inbox is full.

[Tkow70]

Man, I was wondering if you were finding success on SA. Looks like you have in a matter of a month or two. Good work!

Good info as well on costs. I'm tempted to try it out but the time to put in is my issue since this is a 2nd life for me.

I hear you man. I'm fortunate that this is my only life. I have no wife and am happily divorced. I'm on SA daily scoping out the hottest new blood. I've got about 10 lined up between $300-$600 ppm. Two cip confirmed and some still working on discussions.

Mainly looking for another hot overnight girl. One that likes to party and a total sub. I know the Unicorn is out there somewhere.

Another month or two and I'll have a full stable and some trades.

FYI. I get a full 10 panel test monthly and bring a plan b pill to be totally safe. A bottle of Prosecco doesn't hurt either.

[Baggio57]

Curious for those of you who have had an SB and at some point ended it. How'd that go? Because really, that's the key part. Some of you have talked about how great it's going and the money and all that while also saying you know you're going to have to end it. That is the part where it can all go to hell. Because if she isn't ready for the allowance and gifts and all that to end, you could be looking at some major headaches. So, has anyone out here have an extended period with an SB and ended it and if so, how did it go? Really, isn't that why we see escorts and go to parlors, because when it's over it's over and we don't have to concern ourselves with any baggage? I agree that the good parts sound great, I'm just concerned about what the end game will be like and if that may ruin everything before it. But maybe I'm too cynical.

[FarFarAway]

Thank you! This is the info I was looking for.

The fact of the matter is I have a someone that I made a potential arrangement with and wanted to make sure I'm not going too far over in monthly cost. Looks like I may be a bit over, but not much.

I'm not sure if I'll get the same non-clock watching approach, but we will see. When I paid by the hour, I usually got more time without watching the clock, but since I was technically paying more per meet, it may change things.

A *real* SB has no particular time in mind and typically has no 'menu' - everyone has some limitations on what they like of course, most often those who want to discuss this just disavow anal, I have no problem w / that. I personally would never BB anyone, so that isn't an issue for me, many guys expect because they are seeing a SB and not an escort or SW they can go bare. If that is your attitude you'd better clear that up front and get her tested (and expect to pay for her test). You could get lucky and get an overnight w / a SB for the 'date' cost. I would always expect to spend 2-3 hours w / a SB in a hotel room for my per date amount. I eventually like to get them to the stage where I am giving them allowance once or twice a month. You have to get them to trust you to take the first tranche on the first of the month and then see you until the 15th (or the next month).

[Witness2002]

I've been seeing escorts for years, but have been spending more and more time with SA girls over the past few weeks. I've seen several girls for several hours at a time. I'm a good looking fun guy so I've found SA a real playground for me. Quite a few I've gotten anything and everything I ask for.

I've got one diamond in the rough already. Beautiful face, light skinned black girl, model type body, slender with slight curves, long legs, smooth, soft, tight skin, perfect bubble butt, 25 yo. Very, very smart, classy, fun as hell and great personality. We had a sleepover the first night I met her! She has her own place and hosts. $500 total. This girl can get $700/ hr if she went pro. Probably $5 k for an overnight. Sleepovers with cip every weekend. She really loves older men. I'm 51. I may ask her to date me. She's off the market and only seeing me. Sorry guys.

Man, I was wondering if you were finding success on SA. Looks like you have in a matter of a month or two. Good work!

Good info as well on costs. I'm tempted to try it out but the time to put in is my issue since this is a 2nd life for me.

[Witness2002]

You see the quote listing the expected outlay for a SB, and I agree with that.

The thing is, if you get a real winner, then it's worth it for a while.

I have a winner, 6 ft tall, total freak. BBBJCIM to swallow, I introduced her to anal and she now asks me to fuck her ass. I tie her up and to all kinds of shit to her. She is a DT queen too. So, until this ends, which it will because I already see the immaturity peaking it's ugly head, including a long period of reeling her back in, but until then, I get to spend 4-5 hours doing anything I want to this woman. I give her 400 per meet and I spend 70-100 on the hotel. I have taken her out to eat a few times, not super fancy places but nice. She is a nice person, but her immaturity is going to be the reason it ends.

All this to say that if you strike gold, it can be great for a while. But it's still not cheap. (I'm going to giver her an extra 100 for Christmas).

So if you like fucking her, say 2-3 times a month, that's 400 x 3 = 1200. Plus minimum 300 on rooms. That's $1,500. Hopefully, you're getting many hours of the sex you are looking for for that price. If you find it, it's a way better deal than seeing a pro 3 times at $450 for three hours. I'm getting 15 hours of sex for the pro price of three. But do the math. I also try to stay away from clock watchers for this reason.

Thank you! This is the info I was looking for.

The fact of the matter is I have a someone that I made a potential arrangement with and wanted to make sure I'm not going too far over in monthly cost. Looks like I may be a bit over, but not much.

I'm not sure if I'll get the same non-clock watching approach, but we will see. When I paid by the hour, I usually got more time without watching the clock, but since I was technically paying more per meet, it may change things.