Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[Bruco]

_kota_.

Another time waster. No showed for coffee after telling me she was on her way. Annoying.

[John Marigold]

Not sure why you quoted my report as I think your response fits some other mongers' reports. I have been a strong advocate of SB over SA since joining it a little more than a year ago. I totally agree with you that the girls on SB girls are less often experienced pros who are really just prostitutes. Two of my sugar babies from SB have actually texted me in the past six weeks asking me to meet up with them for free. One wanted to go to a party and wanted me as her date. I went and it was really cool. Of course, she insisted that I come up to her room after the party for some naughty BBFS and she didn't ask for any money. The other girl was just horny and wanted someone she could trust (drug and disease free) and she said she wanted me. Oh, so nice!

This is from my experience of well over 15 years in the SB game, your my be different. For the most part the girls on SA are simi if not pros. You can close them quick and easy most are in it for the cash. Other sites like SB and WYP have a large percentage of the old school SB type girls, alot don't even want to talk cash online they'll just let that play out. For many the reason you don't get an response is they sniff out that SA approach and pass you by. You have to take your time have a little game to have a high rate out success even then it's more like dating app 30% is a good average. Alot of these girls on other sites have a real education or a job maybe a few chaps, they may just need a little help or none, some prefer someone like their dad, but they don't want to be treated like an STG or SA girl. If I see one that"s on SA, I contact her on SA knowing she's working for volume or may have her own game going. I will say several girls I've met on SB or WYP I've been seeing for years some are not in the game any more but still show me a good time without charge. So you guys having issues try a softer approach to score more, also change up your SB ad from your SA one. Another thing I've learned after I turned 50 it was like the flood gates opened up it was way easier to close these daddy needy chicks.

[Crewzin]

I have banged more than a dozen girls from SB this year. It's not a fraud. You need to cast a wide net however because the capture rate is not really high (so it can be expensive). I also still bang one Asian girl (UNCC student) from my time on SA. I have not had to use a condom on any of these dates.

This is from my experience of well over 15 years in the SB game, your my be different. For the most part the girls on SA are simi if not pros. You can close them quick and easy most are in it for the cash. Other sites like SB and WYP have a large percentage of the old school SB type girls, alot don't even want to talk cash online they'll just let that play out. For many the reason you don't get an response is they sniff out that SA approach and pass you by. You have to take your time have a little game to have a high rate out success even then it's more like dating app 30% is a good average. Alot of these girls on other sites have a real education or a job maybe a few chaps, they may just need a little help or none, some prefer someone like their dad, but they don't want to be treated like an STG or SA girl. If I see one that"s on SA, I contact her on SA knowing she's working for volume or may have her own game going. I will say several girls I've met on SB or WYP I've been seeing for years some are not in the game any more but still show me a good time without charge. So you guys having issues try a softer approach to score more, also change up your SB ad from your SA one. Another thing I've learned after I turned 50 it was like the flood gates opened up it was way easier to close these daddy needy chicks.

[John Marigold]

I have banged more than a dozen girls from SB this year. It's not a fraud. You need to cast a wide net however because the capture rate is not really high (so it can be expensive). I also still bang one Asian girl (UNCC student) from my time on SA. I have not had to use a condom on any of these dates.

I never get a response from anyone on there, even the same Seeking girls. They must be copying and pasting these seeking profiles on SB.

[Bruco]

Molly.

Brunette with a 585 area code.

She no showed on me. Was making it too easy, I should know better.

[MidnightSteel]

I've had good luck on the site. Few basic tips. Safest to stick with the video verified girls, don't pay extra to boost your message, don't pay extra to see their private pics until you have some communication with them going. Does SB have fake profiles. Yes for sure but I've met up with both verified members and non verified members. I also have a fake pic I send. It looks very close to me but it's not me. Google a description of how you look and download a pic. Never send a real pic of your face.

I have a pretty standard direct first message with included a brief description about me, what I'm looking for which is PPM but I don't say PPM. Something to the effect. We meet up and you leave with allowance. The girls who want PPM will respond to that theme. After 30 day's the messages disappear so if she's verified and hot and I still want to bang her I'll start over assuming she's read hundreds of messages and forgot what I initially sent. The 2nd message will be super casual and friendly no mention of any meet up. Kinda like hey how is this site treating you. Lots of weido O's. You probably have some funny stories. Some girls are nervous and want to be slow played a little.

Like right now I have 3 girls in the rotation and my credits on SB are sitting waiting for me. I like not having a monthly subscription. Feel free to PM me specific question.

Also another tip is if they send you a message see if they visited your profile. If they did that's a better lead.

I stared on SA but that was 2 years ago. Funny thing is the only girl I met up with on SA I'm still banging. Going to see her Sunday and over the course of 2 years we have gotten to know each other and she is bi so for her Birthday in October I found her a girl from SB. We had a 3 sum then and are having another Sunday with the same SB girl. Thank god for Trimix.

[AcltE0092]

I've had good luck on the site. Few basic tips. Safest to stick with the video verified girls, don't pay extra to boost your message, don't pay extra to see their private pics until you have some communication with them going. Does SB have fake profiles. Yes for sure but I've met up with both verified members and non verified members. I also have a fake pic I send. It looks very close to me but it's not me. Google a description of how you look and download a pic. Never send a real pic of your face.

I have a pretty standard direct first message with included a brief description about me, what I'm looking for which is PPM but I don't say PPM. Something to the effect. We meet up and you leave with allowance. The girls who want PPM will respond to that theme. After 30 day's the messages disappear so if she's verified and hot and I still want to bang her I'll start over assuming she's read hundreds of messages and forgot what I initially sent. The 2nd message will be super casual and friendly no mention of any meet up. Kinda like hey how is this site treating you. Lots of weido O's. You probably have some funny stories. Some girls are nervous and want to be slow played a little.

Like right now I have 3 girls in the rotation and my credits on SB are sitting waiting for me. I like not having a monthly subscription. Feel free to PM me specific question.

MS, Thanks for the tips. This should be a solid starting point, I've done some recon on a handful myself and its reassuring hearing the tokens don't accrue with the same contact. If I score ill report back.

Thanks for the tip. I've been on SB for 3 or 4 weeks now. Got 500 credit that means I can communicate with 50 girls since it costs 10 credit to read or send messages for the first time. I have used up 200 credits so far and received virtually 0 response. Here is the stats:

15 messages were used on girls that wrote me/initated the message. Of these 15 girls that I responded to, 12 were verified. One of the 15 girls wrote me back after I responded but she just wanted to sell pics. At least I know she's real LOL.

The other 5 messages were used to initiate messages. 3 of these 5 were verified members.

Just like any site, I sure there are scammers, bots, and real SBs. In fact I saw my ex-SB's profile on there and saw another girl who I had talked to on SA (nothing came out of that one). The odds are not in my favor though if we go by the laws of average.

I went back on SA with their 25% Black Friday special since the SBs I was seeing were gone (for various reason). I hooked up with 1 SB within 1 week. Have 1 set up for next week (but you know they can fall thru at any given moment) and probably 1 this weekend. I definitely feels more comfortable and familiar with SA.

That is not to say I'm against SB. I still have 300 credits left so will keep trying and implement some of your tips. I do remember that I got tons of messages on SB before my profile was filled in and before having any pics. So I suspect that many are either bots or people posing as SB. Several of these SB wrote me and I responded right away and poof, nothing heard from them ever since. My confidence level on SB isn't all that high right now.

GH, Thanks for the additional feedback, I've had success on SA as well just looking for another pasture.

I have had an identical experience. I only bought the intro package. 100 credits. I only initiated 1 conversation, no response. I responded to 9 girls who messaged me (6 were verified). I got 1 response and after exchanging numbers did a little research and I'm pretty sure it was a guy (at least based on snapchat avatar). Obviously didn't go any where. I'm out of credits now and see no reason to reup. I'm doing just fine with Seeking so I don't feel like throwing any more money away, at least for now.

JD, Thanks man.

[Ho Hopper]

I know Seeking is not perfect but this kind of shit seems to be more pervasive on Secret Benefits. This is an outright fraud. Check the video and she looks nothing like the photos. They are so heavily filtered that it could be a completely different person. Why do this? When the guy shows up and sees what you really look like, it's ghost-town after that. Seems counter productive and I don't get it.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...5f3a17ed715544

I never get a response from anyone on there, even the same Seeking girls. They must be copying and pasting these seeking profiles on SB.

[John Dough71]

I have had an identical experience. I only bought the intro package. 100 credits. I only initiated 1 conversation, no response. I responded to 9 girls who messaged me (6 were verified). I got 1 response and after exchanging numbers did a little research and I'm pretty sure it was a guy (at least based on snapchat avatar). Obviously didn't go any where. I'm out of credits now and see no reason to reup. I'm doing just fine with Seeking so I don't feel like throwing any more money away, at least for now.

I know Seeking is not perfect but this kind of shit seems to be more pervasive on Secret Benefits. This is an outright fraud. Check the video and she looks nothing like the photos. They are so heavily filtered that it could be a completely different person. Why do this? When the guy shows up and sees what you really look like, it's ghost-town after that. Seems counter productive and I don't get it.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...5f3a17ed715544

[John Dough71]

Thanks for the tip. I've been on SB for 3 or 4 weeks now. Got 500 credit that means I can communicate with 50 girls since it costs 10 credit to read or send messages for the first time. I have used up 200 credits so far and received virtually 0 response.

I have had an identical experience. I only bought the intro package. 100 credits. I only initiated 1 conversation, no response. I responded to 9 girls who messaged me (6 were verified). I got 1 response and after exchanging numbers did a little research and I'm pretty sure it was a guy (at least based on snapchat avatar). Obviously didn't go any where. I'm out of credits now and see no reason to reup. I'm doing just fine with Seeking so I don't feel like throwing any more money away, at least for now.

[Grasshopping]

I've had good luck on the site. Few basic tips. Safest to stick with the video verified girls, don't pay extra to boost your message, don't pay extra to see their private pics until you have some communication with them going. Does SB have fake profiles. Yes for sure but I've met up with both verified members and non verified members. I also have a fake pic I send. It looks very close to me but it's not me. Google a description of how you look and download a pic. Never send a real pic of your face.

I have a pretty standard direct first message with included a brief description about me, what I'm looking for which is PPM but I don't say PPM. Something to the effect. We meet up and you leave with allowance. The girls who want PPM will respond to that theme. After 30 day's the messages disappear so if she's verified and hot and I still want to bang her I'll start over assuming she's read hundreds of messages and forgot what I initially sent. The 2nd message will be super casual and friendly no mention of any meet up. Kinda like hey how is this site treating you. Lots of weido O's. You probably have some funny stories. Some girls are nervous and want to be slow played a little.

Like right now I have 3 girls in the rotation and my credits on SB are sitting waiting for me. I like not having a monthly subscription. Feel free to PM me specific question.

Thanks for the tip. I've been on SB for 3 or 4 weeks now. Got 500 credit that means I can communicate with 50 girls since it costs 10 credit to read or send messages for the first time. I have used up 200 credits so far and received virtually 0 response. Here is the stats:

15 messages were used on girls that wrote me/initated the message. Of these 15 girls that I responded to, 12 were verified. One of the 15 girls wrote me back after I responded but she just wanted to sell pics. At least I know she's real LOL.

The other 5 messages were used to initiate messages. 3 of these 5 were verified members.

Just like any site, I sure there are scammers, bots, and real SBs. In fact I saw my ex-SB's profile on there and saw another girl who I had talked to on SA (nothing came out of that one). The odds are not in my favor though if we go by the laws of average.

I went back on SA with their 25% Black Friday special since the SBs I was seeing were gone (for various reason). I hooked up with 1 SB within 1 week. Have 1 set up for next week (but you know they can fall thru at any given moment) and probably 1 this weekend. I definitely feels more comfortable and familiar with SA.

That is not to say I'm against SB. I still have 300 credits left so will keep trying and implement some of your tips. I do remember that I got tons of messages on SB before my profile was filled in and before having any pics. So I suspect that many are either bots or people posing as SB. Several of these SB wrote me and I responded right away and poof, nothing heard from them ever since. My confidence level on SB isn't all that high right now.

[MidnightSteel]

This may be a tall ask but can someone advise how to have success on SB?

I have a general idea of the scene but paying per message seems extreme.

I've had good luck on the site. Few basic tips. Safest to stick with the video verified girls, don't pay extra to boost your message, don't pay extra to see their private pics until you have some communication with them going. Does SB have fake profiles. Yes for sure but I've met up with both verified members and non verified members. I also have a fake pic I send. It looks very close to me but it's not me. Google a description of how you look and download a pic. Never send a real pic of your face.

I have a pretty standard direct first message with included a brief description about me, what I'm looking for which is PPM but I don't say PPM. Something to the effect. We meet up and you leave with allowance. The girls who want PPM will respond to that theme. After 30 day's the messages disappear so if she's verified and hot and I still want to bang her I'll start over assuming she's read hundreds of messages and forgot what I initially sent. The 2nd message will be super casual and friendly no mention of any meet up. Kinda like hey how is this site treating you. Lots of weido O's. You probably have some funny stories. Some girls are nervous and want to be slow played a little.

Like right now I have 3 girls in the rotation and my credits on SB are sitting waiting for me. I like not having a monthly subscription. Feel free to PM me specific question.

[AcltE0092]

This may be a tall ask but can someone advise how to have success on SB?

I have a general idea of the scene but paying per message seems extreme.

[FrmLurker]

Time waster in my experience. Never wants to meet.

She hit me up, with her hidden pics. Anyone have any intell, she looks familiar just can't put a time and place on it.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-605e6442c770

[Member #6771]

Agreed. Definitely don't give them them a free dinner either. I got hustled on that one before, a fine dining place in uptown. I didn't even click with the chick. She got a free luxury dinner and I got nothing. If they want a meet & greet, do Starbucks. No money or food ever upfront.

What the hell is going on with these queens? I am on what my price and the last 4 or so queens have asked for deposits! I just had 1 cutie who I agree on a first that incentive of 25 $ say to me let's meet and to make sure you come because I have been stood up send me $50.00 and the other 50 you can give me at dinner. Hold on. I never agreed on any amount of money as an allowance! And dinner. What guy would send money before we meet, He'll no! I told her to start I would agree to give her agree 1st date incentive when we meet and for the first date it is Coffee or maybe lunch to see if we click, no money will be sent in advance at all. I had another tell me we haven't met yet but I need like 10 or 20 dollars to pick up my kids at day care send it? Are they nuts? She had the nerve to say I'm real and send me a blurry 4 sec video that I never asked for and said that has to be worth 20.00. Aaa no! These queens feel they will influence us to send cash based on their looks and make us think they will follow up on anything they say? Guys if you need more details pm me.

Don't send money in advance, if you have let me know if any of them ever followed through?

If you have any one who you can recommend who does follow through please pm me. Seriously!

Please stay safe out there.