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  1. #14883

    Massage table

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Without a table there can not be a real massage. I've asked many providers in the massage section So You Have A Table, the answer is usually No.

    The only good massage I've ever had on a bed was in Flower Child's RV. She's very good and the mattress is thinner than normal beds with a firm wooded bottom, those two facts probably helped the massage feel like I was on a table. Flower Child hovering over me made it a perfect massage. I think an RV bed is probably better than a table.

    As I mentioned before, these ads are obviously saying limited experience unless you're my type and LE keep scrolling nothing to see here.
    Agree with Benz. The presence of a massage table does not guarantee a good massage. Some massage providers have no idea what they are doing. But the absence of massage table pretty much guarantees that she's an escort and you are unlikely to get an actual massage. So it's a helpful screening question with independents.

  2. #14882
    Re: Jezebel.

    Enjoy. She is a gem guys and is looking for business!
    Absolutely! She was my first and only Nuru a few years ago, and then I had to leave the hobby for awhile. I mostly remember her accent, attitude, and aggression (in a good way, she can be a take charge kind of lady). Now I'm gone from GR, but she'd be high on my list when I come back to visit.

  3. #14881

    Nuru. Jezebel

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpMan61  [View Original Post]
    The only thing you're off about is she has bolt ons now. Still look great though.
    The pics are 100% her. She is a hot, sexy, curvy, dark skinned South African. She has a little bit of an accent. She is very sensual.

    She may have bolt ons and if they are they are some of the best I have seen, felt and sucked. Her tits are amazing with large areolas and nipples, and she loves them sucked.

    Enjoy. She is a gem guys and is looking for business!

  4. #14880

    Concur

    Quote Originally Posted by SpartyOn1234  [View Original Post]
    If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.

    I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.

    If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...i/874508168111
    The only thing you're off about is she has bolt ons now. Still look great though.

  5. #14879
    Are those her real pics? Thanks for the review.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpartyOn1234  [View Original Post]
    If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.

    I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.

    If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...i/874508168111

  6. #14878

    NURU massage in GR. Great experience

    If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.

    I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.

    If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...i/874508168111

  7. #14877
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4408
    Quote Originally Posted by RobovDaslav  [View Original Post]
    Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit.
    Without a table there can not be a real massage. I've asked many providers in the massage section So You Have A Table, the answer is usually No.

    The only good massage I've ever had on a bed was in Flower Child's RV. She's very good and the mattress is thinner than normal beds with a firm wooded bottom, those two facts probably helped the massage feel like I was on a table. Flower Child hovering over me made it a perfect massage. I think an RV bed is probably better than a table.

    As I mentioned before, these ads are obviously saying limited experience unless you're my type and LE keep scrolling nothing to see here.

  8. #14876

    Riddle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Ok. Random musing here.

    Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?

    And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...h/646155637810.
    The only thing missing to solve this riddle, is a picture of her giving us the middle finger. Then we would know for sure she is an escort not a massage therapist.

  9. #14875
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Well stated.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobovDaslav  [View Original Post]
    Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit. But, that's just my gut feeling, I've never visited her, so couldn't say.

    And about that second picture; it gives off more of an (albeit poor) attempt at a sultry look.

    On the more broad, hypothetics of the question: yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a 100% legit business to attempt to get clientele from a site that is CLEARLY about extra curricular activities with just a 10 second scroll. Which also leads me to think that the "Purely Medical" grand standing is for sake of deniability than any actual claim of legitimacy, akin to the "Payment is for my time ONLY" schtick that escorts love to use.
    I agree completely. It just seems an odd medium to use for advertising an entirely legitimate massage experience. To me it's like deciding to post "Sound of Music" video on Pornhub. It's just the wrong vehicle. The buyer is going to be disappointed.

    And sultry looks are apparently not as easily captured as the girl thinks. She looks either annoyed or devoid of sensuality. Neither sells.

    G2.

  10. #14874

    Slight different interpretation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Ok. Random musing here.

    Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?

    And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...h/646155637810

    G2.
    Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit. But, that's just my gut feeling, I've never visited her, so couldn't say.

    And about that second picture; it gives off more of an (albeit poor) attempt at a sultry look.

    On the more broad, hypothetics of the question: yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a 100% legit business to attempt to get clientele from a site that is CLEARLY about extra curricular activities with just a 10 second scroll. Which also leads me to think that the "Purely Medical" grand standing is for sake of deniability than any actual claim of legitimacy, akin to the "Payment is for my time ONLY" schtick that escorts love to use.

  11. #14873
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4408

    Medical massage

    Quote Originally Posted by RaulJulia  [View Original Post]
    I'm not saying some of these women aren't capable of giving good massages as well as the ending we're looking for. And it's definitely a bonus if the massage is good or even great and it's a disappointment if it's lousy, makes you feel worse, or they simply push a bit of oil around on your back for 5 minutes and then want you to flip. But if I'm in need of an actual, legit massage for medical reasons or just because I feel like that's what I need, I use Google to find a legit establishment with LCMTs working there. Or is use the ones affiliated with whatever chiropractor I'm going to at the time. I don't go on STG looking for that type of massage or with those expectations. And I'd venture to guess that most guys who go on STG want to have some level of assurance that if a provider is advertising on STG, at least a HE is included. But that doesn't seem to be what at least 2 providers posting there now have in mind based on what their ads say.

    Interesting you bring up Parri Curtis. She was sort of my "gateway drug" into this hobby. She does give a really good massage IMO. She's had the training and knows what she's doing. And she's a really neat lady. I used to see her semi-regularly and if I was looking for a really good massage that also included a good ending and those were my criteria, I'd go back. But after I started branching out to more "sensual massage" providers, I found it harder to justify going to Parri if and when the ending was really my main goal. She's more expensive than other providers who offer HE, though admittedly she does give you more on the massage side. You have to book the "pelvic floor massage" as an add on and she wants you to schedule for 90-120 minutes if you want to add that on. She makes you do Kegel exercises or something like that while she's taking care of the business (to keep it "medical" I think), there's no roaming or teasing with her (at least, she posts that on her website and seemed very firm on that back when I saw her. Others may have different experiences), and the biggest drawback to me--somewhere along the way, she started wearing gloves. Even when I get a legit massage with no playful ending, they generally still use their bare hands and don't wear gloves, which is nice. So, to me, much more of a mood killer if it's an intimate massage and the provider wears gloves. She still gets the job done, but it detracts from the experience in my book. With the lack of roaming, teasing, and no getting comfortable on her part, it reminds me of Sweetie's massage--except Sweetie doesn't wear gloves, so there's still some nice skin to skin contact, and Sweetie lets you relax and enjoy the moment without having to tighten your abs in the middle of the fun.

    We each have our own needs, experiences, and opinions of course, and these are just mine. I'm certainly not trying to start an argument or debate or offend anyone. There's more than enough of that on this forum without me getting involved. And there's plenty of different providers out there offering different options. But if these 2 providers posting on STG saying that they only offer massage really mean that, then they should probably just have a webpage that can be found on Google. Or even post on Craigslist. It's kind of a mixed bag. But not on STG.
    I agree on all points.

    Except the part where they should post on another site. IMO A massage posted without extras on STG is a way of screening without saying I screen out dickheads that are disrespectful and have bad hygiene. It might take a few visits, at the end of each visit, I would politely ask is that all for today? As long as you're freshly showered and respectful I think you'll eventually get what you came for.

  12. #14872

    Chyna

    I was fortunate to meet Chyna a few times. She is simply outstanding for me. I miss her.

    So I was curious if any one that was previously fortunate enough to have made her acquaintance, has seen or heard from her lately. It has been since July for myself. I hope all is well and that she may only be attending to other aspects of her life. Any intel would be greatly appreciated. PM if you feel that is easier.

    Thank you.

  13. #14871

    Two Different Things IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    A few different views on the subject of HE and medical massage combination. Having had a lot of really good professional massages is probably why I'm a harsh critic .

    Before my knee replacement I needed a masseuse for cramping caused by a bad gate created by the need for a knee replacement. How many mongers have visited a hobby girl trying to give a good massage or not really trying at all and you know your getting HJ so you don't care about the massage. How many mongers hope the 4th visit will be the day they get a BJ instead of HJ. Most real masseuse have given plenty of HE just depends on who and when they need money for rent or car payment. The who is the biggest factor for a trained masseuse. I had legit pain and they could tell by the tension in my leg, they knew I wasn't a creepazoid looking for fun. The good ones will document all areas of need in their database so they know what to work on at your next visit.

    Like with all women, eventually the wall comes down (good hygiene and attitude matter). You don't need to be a smooth talker just a real nice guy with needs.Occasionally I had them contacting me asking if I was coming in for my monthly visit, that's how I knew rent was due.

    There is another option too if you visit Parri Curtisy at Curtisy Massage. Click the menu button and go to pelvic massage.

    https://www.curtisymassagetherapy.com/
    I'm not saying some of these women aren't capable of giving good massages as well as the ending we're looking for. And it's definitely a bonus if the massage is good or even great and it's a disappointment if it's lousy, makes you feel worse, or they simply push a bit of oil around on your back for 5 minutes and then want you to flip. But if I'm in need of an actual, legit massage for medical reasons or just because I feel like that's what I need, I use Google to find a legit establishment with LCMTs working there. Or is use the ones affiliated with whatever chiropractor I'm going to at the time. I don't go on STG looking for that type of massage or with those expectations. And I'd venture to guess that most guys who go on STG want to have some level of assurance that if a provider is advertising on STG, at least a HE is included. But that doesn't seem to be what at least 2 providers posting there now have in mind based on what their ads say.

    Interesting you bring up Parri Curtis. She was sort of my "gateway drug" into this hobby. She does give a really good massage IMO. She's had the training and knows what she's doing. And she's a really neat lady. I used to see her semi-regularly and if I was looking for a really good massage that also included a good ending and those were my criteria, I'd go back. But after I started branching out to more "sensual massage" providers, I found it harder to justify going to Parri if and when the ending was really my main goal. She's more expensive than other providers who offer HE, though admittedly she does give you more on the massage side. You have to book the "pelvic floor massage" as an add on and she wants you to schedule for 90-120 minutes if you want to add that on. She makes you do Kegel exercises or something like that while she's taking care of the business (to keep it "medical" I think), there's no roaming or teasing with her (at least, she posts that on her website and seemed very firm on that back when I saw her. Others may have different experiences), and the biggest drawback to me--somewhere along the way, she started wearing gloves. Even when I get a legit massage with no playful ending, they generally still use their bare hands and don't wear gloves, which is nice. So, to me, much more of a mood killer if it's an intimate massage and the provider wears gloves. She still gets the job done, but it detracts from the experience in my book. With the lack of roaming, teasing, and no getting comfortable on her part, it reminds me of Sweetie's massage--except Sweetie doesn't wear gloves, so there's still some nice skin to skin contact, and Sweetie lets you relax and enjoy the moment without having to tighten your abs in the middle of the fun.

    We each have our own needs, experiences, and opinions of course, and these are just mine. I'm certainly not trying to start an argument or debate or offend anyone. There's more than enough of that on this forum without me getting involved. And there's plenty of different providers out there offering different options. But if these 2 providers posting on STG saying that they only offer massage really mean that, then they should probably just have a webpage that can be found on Google. Or even post on Craigslist. It's kind of a mixed bag. But not on STG.

  14. #14870
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4408

    Medical massage

    Quote Originally Posted by RaulJulia  [View Original Post]
    I've wondered the same thing G2. Tommey had some interesting insight on why some massage providers post as escorts and vice versa and how the STG accounts work, but this seems like something different. I know A LOT of providers on STG will say "yes, just professional massage, nothing illegal, donation for time only, two consenting adults," etc. Just to try to have plausible deniability if they get caught and get into issues with LE. But we know all of that is said with a wink and a smile. But this seems to be something different. There's this scowling provider who also has a second ad on STG with other pictures that don't really make her look any more inviting and there's a second provider posting on there that seems to just be straight legit massage that I posted about a few days back asking a similar question. Are these women really advertising just massage with no on STG and are they that clueless about what the site is for or are they just being really, really cautious? On the one hand, I want to believe that anyone who would advertise on STG knows what's up. On the other hand if you put something in your ad like, "Let's be clear up front so there's no misunderstanding about what I will and won't do" or something like that, it seems pretty clear what they're saying. Hell, even Sweetie's ads now seem like she only does massage. They at least used to include a line about tickling the pickle (and she does give the pickle a nice tickle IMO). Now they don't even mention that. This is a trend on STG I hope doesn't catch on. It's bad enough we already have to dodge a bunch of dick pics when we go on STG (I only mentions this to say if that's your thing, post it on the appropriate page--not on those for guys looking for female escorts or MPs), but now we have these "legit massage only" ads to sift through. If this starts to take up more space on STG, mongers will look elsewhere so it seems the admins of STG would try to weed this out.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...7/563792039870

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...a/407384803364
    A few different views on the subject of HE and medical massage combination. Having had a lot of really good professional massages is probably why I'm a harsh critic .

    Before my knee replacement I needed a masseuse for cramping caused by a bad gate created by the need for a knee replacement. How many mongers have visited a hobby girl trying to give a good massage or not really trying at all and you know your getting HJ so you don't care about the massage. How many mongers hope the 4th visit will be the day they get a BJ instead of HJ. Most real masseuse have given plenty of HE just depends on who and when they need money for rent or car payment. The who is the biggest factor for a trained masseuse. I had legit pain and they could tell by the tension in my leg, they knew I wasn't a creepazoid looking for fun. The good ones will document all areas of need in their database so they know what to work on at your next visit.

    Like with all women, eventually the wall comes down (good hygiene and attitude matter). You don't need to be a smooth talker just a real nice guy with needs.Occasionally I had them contacting me asking if I was coming in for my monthly visit, that's how I knew rent was due.

    There is another option too if you visit Parri Curtisy at Curtisy Massage. Click the menu button and go to pelvic massage.

    https://www.curtisymassagetherapy.com/

  15. #14869
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    Posts: 1086

    Phoenix

    Not trying to have a competition here. But Phoenix is an under valued gem. She is still learning but is well worth the effort involved to see her. Your patience will be amply rewarded.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...-/669868455301

    Enjoy.

    G2.

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