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**RegularJoe1985** · 09-10-22 10:15

Originally Posted by David032 [View Original Post]

Not sure why the orginal poster got banned from Google voice. I have never had an issue. Also the only way to truly be anymous is to buy a burner cash and create an email account based off of that burner then connect to those items to anymous chat. Once you download that app to a phone you own then going down the orginal senerio whole everything is trackable. Though not sure what most of you are worried about because to be complete honesty. If someone really wants to use it to trace you they will even cops. But the reality is no one is going to go that deep for some solicitation unless is underage or sex trafficing. If they are there's not much you can really do honestly.

Its own set of Cons right? Now one has to handle 2 devices, if one forgets to take the burner phone then its a hassle.

So, if one wants to keep everything on one device then Apps are the only way to go. I think the bigger worry is about BSC girls rather than LE.

Hence was looking for feedback on apps such as TextMe, TextNow, Hushed, Burner, TextFree, Phoner, 2 ndLine and others. Looking at reviews on App Store and many recent were not as good but that could perhaps be because people tend to give negative feedback more than positive ones.

**Member #6353** · 09-10-22 07:01

I first joined Seeking in 2019. Back then it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I had a stable of 19-23 year old, fit, mostly white 7-8's that I donated anywhere from 80-150 each meet (unheard of these days, I know). A few I'd drop 80 just for them to swing by and blow me every week or two, others I'd be blowing their backs out on the regular for 100-120. Only one got me for 150 and since I was thinking with my little head I went for it.

I recently decided to test the waters again. I reached out to one that I previously had paid 120 for a couple of hours for a decent enough time: she took back shots like a champ and swallowed a couple of loads. I threw 200 as an offer, she came back with 500 as her going rate these days. Idk who is paying these girls this, but that is outrageous, especially for a 7. I blame the countless tiktok "tutorials" and other nonsense they are reading online pumping their heads up.

**Mcsylv** · 09-09-22 19:42

Originally Posted by David032 [View Original Post]

So I have seen her a twice tshe's semi pro meaning high volime that same line you got is the same line everyone gets. Also wouldn't trust her version of clean like I said she's a high volume girl. But everything is on the menu Greek might take a little extra spoiling to get but it's on menu.

Yea I didn't believe her for one sec, no regular girl just tells you that you can bareback them. She's not hot either, a 6 at best, so I'm more interested if she has hot friends, and if I can fuck her friends by fucking her.

**David032** · 09-09-22 15:50

Originally Posted by RegularJoe1985 [View Original Post]

I'd asked some time back about these third-party apps for this and other reasons.

Some options apart from google voice were.

TextMe.

TextNow.

Hushed.

Burner.

TextFree.

Am sure there a bunch of others.

Not sure if apps keep old conversations once number is re-cycled. Anyone have concrete ideas about this?

Not sure why the orginal poster got banned from Google voice. I have never had an issue. Also the only way to truly be anymous is to buy a burner cash and create an email account based off of that burner then connect to those items to anymous chat. Once you download that app to a phone you own then going down the orginal senerio whole everything is trackable. Though not sure what most of you are worried about because to be complete honesty. If someone really wants to use it to trace you they will even cops. But the reality is no one is going to go that deep for some solicitation unless is underage or sex trafficing. If they are there's not much you can really do honestly.

**David032** · 09-09-22 15:37

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

Any info on this girl:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-6afa3630da32

Def a 6 at best. I started off with 300, she said nothing less than 5, but she's clean so I don't need a condom. I kept negotiating and said 5 is fine if she's staying at least 2 hours, and she said okay.

Really put off by her lesbian looks and easy BB access, but she also sent me nudes of her being tied up with another girl. I figure if she's got some hot friends, maybe she could introduce me.

So I have seen her a twice tshe's semi pro meaning high volime that same line you got is the same line everyone gets. Also wouldn't trust her version of clean like I said she's a high volume girl. But everything is on the menu Greek might take a little extra spoiling to get but it's on menu.

**RegularJoe1985** · 09-09-22 11:58

Originally Posted by ChiefQueef [View Original Post]

- ditch google, facebook, and apple for this hobby; you are correct in your suspicion and all your activities are conveniently tied to identifiable accounts.

- textnow uses recycled numbers and you cannot delete accounts; so use your imagination if someone else ends up with your number down the line.

- don't use the "burner" app; look up recent news.

- recommending you use "mysudo", or, if you are tech savvy: a VOIP solution like Telnyx (unlimited numbers and control at a cost).

- avoid email.

- lean towards end-to-end encrypted services or time-based communications (chats expire after X amount of time).

- use cash and gift cards while / where you still can.

I'd asked some time back about these third-party apps for this and other reasons.

Some options apart from google voice were.

TextMe.

TextNow.

Hushed.

Burner.

TextFree.

Am sure there a bunch of others.

Not sure if apps keep old conversations once number is re-cycled. Anyone have concrete ideas about this?

**RegularJoe1985** · 09-09-22 11:50

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

Any info on this girl:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-6afa3630da32

Def a 6 at best. I started off with 300, she said nothing less than 5, but she's clean so I don't need a condom. I kept negotiating and said 5 is fine if she's staying at least 2 hours, and she said okay.

Really put off by her lesbian looks and easy BB access, but she also sent me nudes of her being tied up with another girl. I figure if she's got some hot friends, maybe she could introduce me.

So how about this profile.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-9557af4d37ac

**Mcsylv** · 09-09-22 11:44

Any info on this girl:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-6afa3630da32

Def a 6 at best. I started off with 300, she said nothing less than 5, but she's clean so I don't need a condom. I kept negotiating and said 5 is fine if she's staying at least 2 hours, and she said okay.

Really put off by her lesbian looks and easy BB access, but she also sent me nudes of her being tied up with another girl. I figure if she's got some hot friends, maybe she could introduce me.

**Mcsylv** · 09-09-22 11:39

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

Lmao! Dude. You don't think that literally every single woman on that website that's banging dudes for money, that is selling their bodies for sex, that there's not something completely fucked up with their judgement?? I hate to break it to you but most normal, stable, moral, well adjusted successful women aren't on that website and wouldn't be caught dead on it. I've yet to meet anyone on there that wasn't completely damaged in one way or another or that I'd be willing to bring home to meet my Mom.

While I agree with you that most girls on the site who stay a long time are off in some way, I do think there's a large percentage that dip their toes in because their friend said it would be a good idea, or they saw it on a Youtube video about easy ways to make money as a young girl. It's too mainstream now, when you have TikTokers and celebs doing OF and talking about sugar daddies, the average college girl will at least try it when they are in tough financial situations. There's also a select few who are normal girls, just happened to meet a good SD in like their first 2 days instead of the creeps and scammers, and got off the site. Had a relationship, ended it after a while, then got back on and started looking again. These ones are expecting the same good results, and haven't gotten corrupted by scammers, SD's who don't pay after fucking, etc. Just think about all the platonic-only girls. Yea some are scammers themselves, but many are just innocent and naive girls who saw a tiktok about how she can get a man to give her thousands for her company on dinner dates, and got on SA.

Also the women being damaged is one thing, but still I've had very few experiences with girls on SA where they're down to just fuck without a dinner or coffee meeting to check things out. The ones who have been down are always scammers who ask for money for Uber or babysitter an hour before the date. Or they're semi-pro / pros posting on SA, and even if they're dtf, it's a lower quality experience where there's no BBFS, sometimes not even GFE. They also clock watch or try to leave as soon as 1 pop is done.

I've also never gotten anyone to accept $300 allowance when that's the number I always start off at, even 7's and 6's LOL. 8-9's usually negotiate and end up in the 500-700 range for a couple hour dinner date and bedroom fun. Still cheaper than an escort since those charge $500+/ hr. Been talking to this really hot blonde escort on Tryst and a 2 hr date is going to run me 2 k, so SA is still way cheaper. https://tryst.link/escort/date-riley.

**Arty33** · 09-09-22 10:00

Between not the girl you take to mom vs poor judgement to meet some dude straight in hotel room. They still need to exercise caution because what if you're not who you said you are. I've had SBs tell me they stayed back observing to see who the guy they were going to meet and turns out the guy is older, fatter, and uglier than picture, then she bolted. So, are you saying they should just trust your texts and pictures online and come to your room, that's not the kind of girl I would hook up with. But like I said if you do, then that's your thing, I am not judging you. So what's the issue, I personally have an interest to make sure they are exercising caution in meeting guys, so I know something about their selection, not meet any guy for money in hotel.

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

Lmao! Dude. You don't think that literally every single woman on that website that's banging dudes for money, that is selling their bodies for sex, that there's not something completely fucked up with their judgement?? I hate to break it to you but most normal, stable, moral, well adjusted successful women aren't on that website and wouldn't be caught dead on it. I've yet to meet anyone on there that wasn't completely damaged in one way or another or that I'd be willing to bring home to meet my Mom.

**Arty33** · 09-09-22 09:53

From her texts, all sob stories about her dad is dying her stepmom being mean, told her no money to meet. Finally she called me some names and left the chat. Knew she had no real interest since she started texting without even checking my pictures, LOL, that's a dead giveaway someone's into money scam.

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ae6336ae601a

She for real. Met up with her when she had a different profile a few months ago. Her pics are heavily edited. She has a lot of face sores, and skinny. I talk 5 mins and knew I wasn't interested. Say she use to be into heavy drug use. I'm guessing she meth user. Also notice a tall light skin black guy eye us during coffee. She seem jittery around me, so I made an excuse to end M&G quickly. I drove one big circle. Then I saw her walking with the guy eyeing us earlier to the bus stop. Seems like he was her partner. I would be very careful with this one.

**Old Chinese Guy** · 09-09-22 08:42

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

I think it depends on the girl and your relationship. I have given extra when asked if it's for something specific and I value our relationship, like some extra spending money when they travel. Or if they need (not want) something urgently. But it is always clear it is the exception more than the rule. So rates always stay the same for me with extras from time to time. It does essentially boil down to a higher overall rate.

**JonFisher** · 09-09-22 08:16

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

I have found that a small gift costing 10 $ is worth a lot more say 100 $ in allowance money and they don't expect that every time. I have a bunch of 10,25, 50 gift cards and some 12 $ pyjamas from Costco etc. in my car. Or wine bottle if over 21,. I hand them out occasionally and they get me far more mileage.

But agree with Arty, you give what you feel you are comfortable with. I started giving one of my SB 100 more because I was seeing her less and told her its because of inflation and by jolly, she loves me so much more. It was because she did not expect it.

**Mcsylv** · 09-09-22 02:25

Originally Posted by Arty33 [View Original Post]

First up, I won't meet anyone directly in a hotel room, that's a waste of my time & money, what if I don't like her in person, I am picky who I want to have sex with so I want to make sure I like her personality somewhat before I fuck her. Second, I won't trust a girl who'd meet with a guy directly in a hotel room first up, something off with her judgement, but to each their own, I don't judge others who do, it's their thing, like I said I am selective. Lastly, what I pay them is what I feel is reasonable for me, not the lowest I can negotiate, if I like her and she's nice to me then it's not an issue. I've given SB's more than they asked sometimes and that's just because she's being a sweetheart and do everything I want out of her, including being on time, not waste my money on expensive dining, staying as long as I want her to, being good in bed, not showing irritability etc.

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

**Member #7176** · 09-08-22 23:54

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ae6336ae601a

She for real. Met up with her when she had a different profile a few months ago. Her pics are heavily edited. She has a lot of face sores, and skinny. I talk 5 mins and knew I wasn't interested. Say she use to be into heavy drug use. I'm guessing she meth user. Also notice a tall light skin black guy eye us during coffee. She seem jittery around me, so I made an excuse to end M&G quickly. I drove one big circle. Then I saw her walking with the guy eyeing us earlier to the bus stop. Seems like he was her partner. I would be very careful with this one.

Originally Posted by Arty33 [View Original Post]

Quick to move to text, wants to meet quickly as possible, wants $100 for meeting at the diner. Everything else after is vague, so a m&g money scam.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ae6336ae601a