Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[GutterMind4]

This is my hope, and possibly the only way I continue SBs. When we hitl it off and everyone has a good time, a few have offered a better rate next time. I believe them but, so far, the travel schedule doesn't put me back to see them again for weeks. They often "forget" what they said, go off grid, or I just don't want to repeat. I have had one repeat so far and she went from 5 to 3. Frankly, she should have been 3 the first time. I've only been good at this about 4 or 5 months so once I get enough contacts in each city I visit, this should get more reasonable. God knows I've put the research in, geez. I have learned to promise more frequent visits too to make them feel it won't be "one and done". Can't say that's worked yet but the chicks have heard it all.

From my experience, most girls think that we are going to be one and done so they ask for a higher initial amount. This is what some babies told me. They have said if you see me often then the rate drops. I've had 400 and 500 girls that went down to 200. These were some fine chicks. As many of us know YMMV. Not all do this but some do.

[TheMechanik365]

A bit of interesting history with this one. First chatted with her under a different name. Said she's married to a female. Sent pics and videos to confirm that they are lovers. Anyway, she wanted 700 to pay her rent and she would drive to Charlotte from Greensboro.

Talked her down to $400 but thought that she as too much so I declined. She got mad and claimed I was a scammer because I didn't pay her for the pics and videos but I never asked, she offered.

She was back in my messages telling me she was desperate and offering 300. She did say her wife is available as well. Getting a 3 some would be tough as they have kids but she made it clear both are available for solo's.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...1-d697b531b1a3

[TheMechanik365]

This one is a pro. She has ads on a couple of different escort sites.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...1-b18b5eb808e7

[TheMechanik365]

Moved this one quickly to text. Beautiful girl and body is banging. I offered 300 ppm, she all but laughed and said at least double. She then said I should try Cool Cave Spa for FS at that price. I guess she might be an ex employee.

Anyway, she's out of my price range.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...7-f5c8abc8ff46

[TheMechanik365]

I will put her less than average.

That's why I said average at best.

Here's the kicker. She asked if the give her money to hangout (no sex) was a dealbreaker and of course I said yes. Instead of her bowing out gracefully, she got all bitchy and tried to drag me about wasting time and not reading bios.

So of course I went and checked her bio and of course she didn't have anything in there about giving her money for nothing.

Soooo, I politely let her know about this and she blocked me. LOL!

[SmallAsianCock]

Chatted with this one. She tells me she's looking for a weekly allowance. Okay, how much? She says it depends on how many times I want to see her. I say maybe once a week. She then says what do you want to do when we meet? Sex of course silly rabbit! LOL! She then tells me. She won't be intimate until she develops a "connection" and is "comfortable" with you.

So let me get this straight, you expect a guy to pay you to be around you? Man, some of these women are delusional. She's not even hot. She's average at best.

Wow is all I can say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-e0d488189222

I will put her less than average.

[TheMechanik365]

Chatted with this one. She tells me she's looking for a weekly allowance. Okay, how much? She says it depends on how many times I want to see her. I say maybe once a week. She then says what do you want to do when we meet? Sex of course silly rabbit! LOL! She then tells me. She won't be intimate until she develops a "connection" and is "comfortable" with you.

So let me get this straight, you expect a guy to pay you to be around you? Man, some of these women are delusional. She's not even hot. She's average at best.

Wow is all I can say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-e0d488189222

[Member #6771]

Since beginning the SB / SD arena, I've made over 500 offers. I've only offered 250 or less a few times, at first from being a newb and not wanting to over pay, but eventually, from just throwing a flyer at an "average" looking girl. Turns out, I only met three of those. A 200 that started at 400 but forgot or got desperate. The other two countered with 300 and was what I thought a descent value at that price. None of those were better than average. Not only did the overwhelmimg number of others deny the offer, most never replied and the rest horse laughed at it before blocking me no matter how good or bad they looked. So I choose not to risk being blocked by a 9 just so I can drive down prices for everyone else. I wouldn't consider average / below average looking girls as being STG quality. But I would say that, if I'm looking for average / below average looking, I'll get on a dating app or go to the local bar. If I wouldn't f* them for free, why would I pay money. Turns out, the ones I want to f* are, with a very rare exception, 400 or more. I keep seeing guys b* about driving up prices, and stating what things are worth, but you are not lining up my girls. As mentioned earlier, we are not making the market, we are reacting to it. Once some of these pandemic rich daddies run out of money, youight see a change but these girls literally have hundreds of messages a day. Why would they need to take less.

BTW, many of those 400 or higher, turned into multi- hour, multi-pop dates with lots mileage I would have never get in an independent or AMP, Eros girl, or even UTR pro. So if 400 instead of 200 or 300 means I'm over paying, tell me what I'm doing wrong or show me some 20 something 8's and 9's that will respond and show up.

From my experience, most girls think that we are going to be one and done so they ask for a higher initial amount. This is what some babies told me. They have said if you see me often then the rate drops. I've had 400 and 500 girls that went down to 200. These were some fine chicks. As many of us know YMMV. Not all do this but some do.

[GutterMind4]

Since beginning the SB / SD arena, I've made over 500 offers. I've only offered 250 or less a few times, at first from being a newb and not wanting to over pay, but eventually, from just throwing a flyer at an "average" looking girl. Turns out, I only met three of those. A 200 that started at 400 but forgot or got desperate. The other two countered with 300 and was what I thought a descent value at that price. None of those were better than average. Not only did the overwhelmimg number of others deny the offer, most never replied and the rest horse laughed at it before blocking me no matter how good or bad they looked. So I choose not to risk being blocked by a 9 just so I can drive down prices for everyone else. I wouldn't consider average / below average looking girls as being STG quality. But I would say that, if I'm looking for average / below average looking, I'll get on a dating app or go to the local bar. If I wouldn't f* them for free, why would I pay money. Turns out, the ones I want to f* are, with a very rare exception, 400 or more. I keep seeing guys b* about driving up prices, and stating what things are worth, but you are not lining up my girls. As mentioned earlier, we are not making the market, we are reacting to it. Once some of these pandemic rich daddies run out of money, youight see a change but these girls literally have hundreds of messages a day. Why would they need to take less.

BTW, many of those 400 or higher, turned into multi- hour, multi-pop dates with lots mileage I would have never get in an independent or AMP, Eros girl, or even UTR pro. So if 400 instead of 200 or 300 means I'm over paying, tell me what I'm doing wrong or show me some 20 something 8's and 9's that will respond and show up.

I do not use STG or equivalent, so I don't know what those rates are. I have found plenty High Caliber women on seeking for 200 and below. And others for higher. The thing is, if you have a range, stick to it. If chicks are asking for higher, just move on.

[MilkyWy]

I'm convinced some just seek the thrill of being chased.

Sorry, she had dick appointment with me.

[Al Ingus]

Got her digits? I don't care if her room mate is a weirdo, ain't going to get in the way of my nut and 300 ain't bad for a cutie like that, especially if she'll bbcip. I'd make an afternoon of her.

She made it clear the $$$ was for only an hour of her time. You can find some more recent pics of her on her of.

[TheMechanik365]

Got her digits? I don't care if her room mate is a weirdo, ain't going to get in the way of my nut and 300 ain't bad for a cutie like that, especially if she'll bbcip. I'd make an afternoon of her.

To her on Seeking.

[GodzB]

300 for her to host. 400 for her to come to you.

Caveat, for her to host, means male "roommate" will watch and filming is up to you. I'm guessing it's her man and he's a voyeur.

Got her digits? I don't care if her room mate is a weirdo, ain't going to get in the way of my nut and 300 ain't bad for a cutie like that, especially if she'll bbcip. I'd make an afternoon of her.

[Al Ingus]

FWIW, I'm new to SA and here's my perspective on things. I haven't had any problems moving girls quickly to text. I have run across the pic scammers for sure but I seem to have met a few legit ones. PPM seems to be the preferred transaction. Ranges from 250-600. One girl wanted 2000-3500 per month. Told her good luck.

Anyway, I have a couple who seem legit. One I'm supposed to meet on Wednesday.

Now as far as how much to pay and is it simping? The 300 for an hour with a 20 something college girl, IMHO, is not too much. You're paying for low mileage and someone who is not a drug addict and is doing something with their lives, who just wants some extra money. 200? You should go on STG or LC.

She is a pro. Never seen my pic, went straight to txt and her ppm amount. SA is just the new backpage but the girls are charging double.

[Member #6771]

My sentiments exactly. You go on SA to find a higher caliber of female. As such, you should expect to pay more. Is there GPS on there? Absolutely but you can't expect to these girls to have STG Meth head rates.

I do not use STG or equivalent, so I don't know what those rates are. I have found plenty High Caliber women on seeking for 200 and below. And others for higher. The thing is, if you have a range, stick to it. If chicks are asking for higher, just move on.