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  1. #48675
    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFunGuy  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.

    LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!

    Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.

    Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers!
    It's been declining over the past 20+ years, what makes you think it'll turn around or are you new at this?

  2. #48674
    Banned Member


    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseacre  [View Original Post]
    If it was easy to hire and retain young, hot girls then all the shops would do it. It's not. The talent pool in ATL is thin. In fact, it's thin in most major cities in the US with very few exceptions. Go look at the boards in other cities and mongers complain about all the owls working.

    We will see what ML looks like in a year. Hopefully they find a way to retain talent.
    I totally agree. Massage Legend is the flavor of the month and I hope they can maintain good talent. Just wish the shop was closer to me!

  3. #48673

    Younger

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFunGuy  [View Original Post]
    Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.

    Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers!
    If it was easy to hire and retain young, hot girls then all the shops would do it. It's not. The talent pool in ATL is thin. In fact, it's thin in most major cities in the US with very few exceptions. Go look at the boards in other cities and mongers complain about all the owls working.

    We will see what ML looks like in a year. Hopefully they find a way to retain talent.

  4. #48672
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1862
    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFunGuy  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.

    LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!

    Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.

    Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers!
    We had some great AMP"s in Clayton County from the '80's through the early 20's until they were driven out by Victor Hill.

  5. #48671

    Magic Hands Massage

    Magic Hands,

    Felt like getting a massage since its been more than a week. Figured, I head back to Adore since I had a good experience.

    As I was heading down Buford Hwy, I checked on the several location and thinking maybe I check out another spot?

    Upon pulling into Adore I noticed the lot looked pretty full, so figured why even stop. Heading back up Buford Hwy I once again checked the AMPs.

    Along the way and saw Magic Hands. Looked pretty busy as I passed but wanted to drive by some others first.

    When I circled back the lot was pretty empty. So, I pull in.

    2 MT were smoking up a storm sitting on the curb but, When I started walking to the door they quickly jumped up and one opened the door.

    Noticing the pups in the tight top and the welcoming me in to the room I figured this would be my MT.

    No talk of time or payment just the regular get undressed and face down on the table. She leaves and I'm there for 5 minutes then the door opens.

    Turns out I get another MT Susan.

    She is easily in the 60's has a smokers voice (yes, was out at the curb smoking) kind of a turn off, but away we go.

    We went through the regular Q&A been here before, how long massage you want. She kept pushing for the 90 I took 60, hard / soft, etc.

    She gives a pretty good massage if only she didn't spend 20 minutes on my right and 5 on the left?

    Nice taint massage, Baja Sur and ass work (not PM) then she says something in broken English and is gone.

    6 minutes waiting in the room. I didn't realize I was about to get some hot oil and stones, felt good, then towel and flip.

    She ask me about the scalp massage? I gesture to my little buddy and she said No! DYI and drops some oil.

    On my buddy. I'm like? So, I touch and gesture her hand to go ahead. So, we started to working together.

    Until I let her do it. Boy, talking about fast motion I had to slow it down thought it was machine like. UTC top ok, UTC bottom not worth it, pop then clean.

    She continued on with the massage legs, feet and I asked about the scalp and realized the time, she said no worry free.

    Went over about 15 minutes, which was nice.

    Got dressed and headed out to pay. She was washing some items in a sink, I walked over and handed her a tip 6.

    I thought I gave her wip-lash when she looked at the tip? She assumed, I was paying the house fee.

    I didn't know to give the house and tip to her. So, 6/6 OTD.

  6. #48670

    Atlanta Massage & Spa Masseuses

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseacre  [View Original Post]
    Masseuses are transient across the board, whether in AMPs or in a legit shop like Massage Envy. It's not because of closed minded owners or a reluctance to modernize. It's because of the nature of the job and the kind of people it attracts. Not really sure how many owners you know, but the vast majority are not trolling stations and shelters to get workers. The traditional mode is classified advertising and word of mouth. And in Asian culture (like American culture), rub and tug massage shops are not the kind of employers most women like to tell their friends and family about.

    Due to the nature of the business, Chinese (and to a lesser extent, Korean) culture is ideal for a business operating on the fringes of LE. For example, therapeutic massage more or less was invented in China. The Chinese culture is secretive and naturally averse to government. The list goes on and on. The industry will be slow to change because it works well this way.

    Hats off to ML for stepping out and trying to change things. Other shops are following as well.
    Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.

    LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!

    Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.

    Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers!

  7. #48669

    Different experiences I guess

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseacre  [View Original Post]
    Masseuses are transient across the board, whether in AMPs or in a legit shop like Massage Envy. It's not because of closed minded owners or a reluctance to modernize. It's because of the nature of the job and the kind of people it attracts. Not really sure how many owners you know, but the vast majority are not trolling stations and shelters to get workers. The traditional mode is classified advertising and word of mouth. And in Asian culture (like American culture), rub and tug massage shops are not the kind of employers most women like to tell their friends and family about.

    Due to the nature of the business, Chinese (and to a lesser extent, Korean) culture is ideal for a business operating on the fringes of LE. For example, therapeutic massage more or less was invented in China. The Chinese culture is secretive and naturally averse to government. The list goes on and on. The industry will be slow to change because it works well this way.

    Hats off to ML for stepping out and trying to change things. Other shops are following as well.
    My experience is the opposite, the owners I've known both Chinese and Korean work hard to rotate girls from places like New York periodically, sure they have their "staff" girls but often used to try to bring in fresh talent, but ever since the shootings girls from other areas don't want to come to Atlanta, it's got a bad reputation in the massage world. Had a long conversation with the owner of IYV on Cheshire bridge about 6 months after the shooting, she used to rotate in a NY girl every few months and send the old one back, then none of the girls from the north would come anymore, that's not an isolated shop it's actually very common. While we may not think about the shooting every time we go to a shop, they still talk about it. A few months back I was in Las Vegas and went to a parlor, they asked where I was from, I told them and they immediately were like "oh girls get killed there, not safe place."

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  9. #48667

    ML experience

    I've been to ML a few times and never bothered to get the persons name since the talent is better than other places. This time around, I got her name. Monica. She was great with the massage and did a very sensual HE. No rush to it at all. Got the full hour. OTC bottom and UTC top. They just raised their price tk $70/ hr.

    Anyone gotten 4 hand here? What do you usually tip for 4 hand in general?

  10. #48666

    How it works

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFunGuy  [View Original Post]
    Nite, I respectfully disagree with you. One of the key success factors for Massage Legend over their first year has been the consistent flow of new talent. We both know how transient masseuses are and the challenges this presents.

    It is actually the closed-minded and antiquated business practices you cited that creates such an unstable and volatile market for the massage shops. I admire the Legend approach rather than searching Greyhound Stations, various "Shelters" or other sketch practices that have been the traditional mode of acquiring workers.

    Finally, somebody exhibited a more sophisticated approach with true business savvy! Hats off to Ms. Wang!
    Masseuses are transient across the board, whether in AMPs or in a legit shop like Massage Envy. It's not because of closed minded owners or a reluctance to modernize. It's because of the nature of the job and the kind of people it attracts. Not really sure how many owners you know, but the vast majority are not trolling stations and shelters to get workers. The traditional mode is classified advertising and word of mouth. And in Asian culture (like American culture), rub and tug massage shops are not the kind of employers most women like to tell their friends and family about.

    Due to the nature of the business, Chinese (and to a lesser extent, Korean) culture is ideal for a business operating on the fringes of LE. For example, therapeutic massage more or less was invented in China. The Chinese culture is secretive and naturally averse to government. The list goes on and on. The industry will be slow to change because it works well this way.

    Hats off to ML for stepping out and trying to change things. Other shops are following as well.

  11. #48665
    Quote Originally Posted by Curious44  [View Original Post]
    No but I do want to try her. Heard she's more into the FS scene than massage.

    Just go to rubmd and type Latina Massage Therapist in the search bar and you'll see Isabella.

    Yea guys I know, this is a "non AMP and Massage" convo. Just helping out a fellow monger.

  12. #48664
    Banned Member


    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFunGuy  [View Original Post]
    Nite, I respectfully disagree with you. One of the key success factors for Massage Legend over their first year has been the consistent flow of new talent. We both know how transient masseuses are and the challenges this presents.

    It is actually the closed-minded and antiquated business practices you cited that creates such an unstable and volatile market for the massage shops. I admire the Legend approach rather than searching Greyhound Stations, various "Shelters" or other sketch practices that have been the traditional mode of acquiring workers.

    Finally, somebody exhibited a more sophisticated approach with true business savvy! Hats off to Ms. Wang!
    I never suggested that ML or any other parlor cruises Greyhound stations looking for talent. Many CAMP girls answer online ads in China, get over here, and move from city to city doing massages until they can become independent. If they become legal and established, they're free to go and work where they please. Why would a model-quality woman be desperate enough to work at a CAMP? Seems they'd have better options. At the very least, they could find a Chinese or American sugar daddy to take care of them.

  13. #48663

    Orlando Monger

    What's up fellas any places y'all recommend near Alpharetta? AMP, LMP or any independent providers. DM or respond here if you are in the Orlando area I will provide you with some gems as well ty.

  14. #48662

    Isabella

    Quote Originally Posted by MassageAwesome  [View Original Post]
    In the independent scene there are.

    Check out rubmd.com.

    Isabella (Latina) is in cobb.
    Is this the Isabel you speak of? https://rubmd.com/atlanta-ga/059c38d...7-eca2b80b09cf.

  15. #48661

    New Concepts for Acquiring Masseuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    No profitable parlor strategizes at that level (CAMP / KAMP) because it isn't necessary. As long as they currently do whatever they need to get the green, no need to fuck with a sound business model.
    Nite, I respectfully disagree with you. One of the key success factors for Massage Legend over their first year has been the consistent flow of new talent. We both know how transient masseuses are and the challenges this presents.

    It is actually the closed-minded and antiquated business practices you cited that creates such an unstable and volatile market for the massage shops. I admire the Legend approach rather than searching Greyhound Stations, various "Shelters" or other sketch practices that have been the traditional mode of acquiring workers.

    Finally, somebody exhibited a more sophisticated approach with true business savvy! Hats off to Ms. Wang!

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