Massage Parlor Reports

[Dr Willy]

I recall seeing the security monitor showing one of their cameras pointed at the back door and it seemed pretty tight back there.

Is this NDS security or outside surveillance? The news about Cherry Blossom stated 847 customers during their investigation, that means it wasn't simply going in and seeing if they got an offer. I'd suggest not parking in the lot or getting a rideshare / taxi (they may pull plates, I heard about a ridiculous harassing letter claiming someone may be a witness to a crime; but threatening to state full details if they don't comply somewhere in this forum) and possibly sunglasses / hat before entering. Stay safe.

Sorry. I forget that the entire audience here may not have been following this thread for as long as some others, and I seem to have made the mistake of ASSUMING facts in evidence that may not be there for everyone. My oversight! Let me clarify and add further context.

No, this is NOT a reference to "outside surveillance" of any kind. Nearly EVERY AMP has their own closed-circuit security cameras mounted near the doors and, often, inside the lobby. The unique aspect of NDS, King Spa, Ocean Star Spa, and several others is that they operate WITHOUT a manager or mamasan who can run the front desk and manage customer traffic within the facility. I guess they're saving money but it's REALLY annoying because the actual service providers are required to perform this duty instead. The result is that the girls must watch the inside security monitors, usually mounted in EVERY massage room with multiple camera views, for a new customer to come in the front door. When that happens, if ALL the girls are busy with customers, one of those girls is going to have to interrupt their session and go out front to either stage the new guy in a room (where he waits a bit), or (less often and less desirable for the girls) tell the guy to come back later, and then hope he does. The annoying part, aside from your girl potentially getting up in the middle of your session, is that your girl also has her eyes GLUED to that monitor while performing her services. Nothing sexier than being engaged in a session with your partner watching TV! Bleh! A side aspect of this cumbersome arrangement is that every customer inside a massage room can ALSO see/watch those same monitors and see, for example, that the back door area of NDS "seemed pretty tight back there." So, no, there is nothing nefarious or risky going on, it's just that, in this particular operational model (no manager/mamasan), they've mounted these monitors in every room where customers can see them. A lot of this is well known background to long-time readers of this thread, which is why I failed to adequately explain that initial comment. Again, my bad! Sorry about that.

The rumors reported here about some guys supposedly receiving letters from LE or the county prosecutor were narrowed down to less than a handful of members suspected of actually being dubious trolls attempting to inflict a business impact on certain AMPs (NDS among them). Those trolls have largely disappeared or otherwise got tired of their game and moved on. If any current contributors would care to weigh in with facts disputing those suspicions, we would all welcome a factual clarification. At the time, when "facts" were asked for, none of the suspected trolls could produce anything other than otherwise unfounded allegations. From that entire episode, the take-away I got from it was that LE/prosecutors don't actually DO that and there is no risk in parking in an open lot and going into any open business, such as an AMP ... there is NOTHING illegal about going into or coming out of an AMP. Based on the outcome of what's become meme'd as the "Kraft-debacle", no AMP is going to fall for any LE "trick" that would let them install surveillance cameras inside a business, AND I seriously doubt any LE department is going to make that same legal blunder of even trying to do so.

As for the Cherry Blossom story, reportedly citing a large number of "customers", I would suggest we all note that NONE of those supposed customers were ever contacted or engaged in any way. In my simple mind, this sort of makes the entire idea of a "customer count" as being of suspect authenticity. This would be one of those times you may not want to believe everything you read on the Internet! From what I recall, the charges that ended up moving forward surrounding CB centered around money-laundering, RICO charges (always popular with prosecutors because they carry insane penalties that can be used to threaten suspects if they don't "cooperate") and were focused on the persons registered as the owners of the establishment.

No one can tell any other member here NOT to be paranoid, as we all manage our perceived risks in our own way. However, I, personally, am not paranoid and I find no risk in parking in the front lot, or being seen walking into/out of any AMP, or receiving "letters" at home of some sort of inexplicable embarrassing nature (never gonna happen). If you definitely WANT to look suspicious, go with that hat & glasses look and you will stand out like a sore thumb. These days a simple COVID mask would probably work better if you really feel a need.

[TheWildOne2]

I recall seeing the security monitor showing one of their cameras pointed at the back door and it seemed pretty tight back there.

Is this NDS security or outside surveillance? The news about Cherry Blossom stated 847 customers during their investigation, that means it wasn't simply going in and seeing if they got an offer. I'd suggest not parking in the lot or getting a rideshare / taxi (they may pull plates, I heard about a ridiculous harassing letter claiming someone may be a witness to a crime; but threatening to state full details if they don't comply somewhere in this forum) and possibly sunglasses / hat before entering. Stay safe.

[JamesSmith077]

Ok, it looks like my best bet is to go to Mm. I'm going to be in Kissimmee area just checking if there is anything closer to try out. Looks like mm is a half hour away and the half hour wait might cause some red flags. If it's the best bet I'll head there and report.

[Dr Willy]

Nds is on sand lake, yes. In a shopping plaza on the east end of it. I always park in the front but I believe theres parking around back also. . 8 at the door $. 6 to the girl for about an hour.

I recall seeing the security monitor showing one of their cameras pointed at the back door and it seemed pretty tight back there. Regarding location, a reliable "landmark" to cite is to say that the REAL NDS location is DIRECTLY across Sand Lake Road from the Chili's Restaurant that's within the Florida Mall 'outlot businesses'. In any case, the following post may well be recommended reading as it's complete with PICTURES of where to go (and where NOT to go):

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...48#post4896948

Spoiler: There are TWO AMP's (at opposite ends) of the plaza complex where NDS is located.

[OdinsBeard78]

Thank you all fellow mongers for great information and reports. I am headed down from Jax and see that Milk, BO and NDS are the places to be.

Is NDS the one on Sand lake?

Am I missing any others that should be ventured into? Any info you can provide is greatly appreciated. If you do not want to share here, feel free to DM.

Nds is on sand lake, yes. In a shopping plaza on the east end of it. I always park in the front but I believe theres parking around back also. . 8 at the door $. 6 to the girl for about an hour.

[MrOTown1978]

First time posting but, long time on the site. I went to Bo today and saw Lisa. I smoking hot Colombian. Started off with a quick TS and then back to the room. Next, was a nice 10 minute massage. Then, she told me to flip over for some real fun! He started with a covered BJ then she's got on top and rode me hard. She has a thick Latina booty and she worked it good! We finished in doggie position and I was a happy customer.

[Dr Willy]

Well. Made it in this morning. Short wait as I relaxed and listened to the fun next door. Ginger was my masseuse. Sweet girl. And now I know what TUMA stands for.

Well, there's a new name, and it may explain a discrepancy I found this morning. Since Milk posts a DAILY ad on Skip-The-Games, I was under the impression that the names of the girls in their ad probably accurately reports the line-up for the day. Nupe! At least not today.

Based on glowing reports here, I have been on a mission to track down what has proven to be the "elusive" Amanda. I've made three prior visits to Milk requesting Amanda, only to be told she's either on vacation or otherwise not available at all, so on THIS occasion I checked today's ad on STG (from about 2 miles away from the spa), as seen here:

https://orlando.skipthegames.com/mas...s/097553364054 ... which is "bumped" to the top of the daily listing at least 3 times throughout the same day!

As you can see, TODAY'S line-up is clearly being reported as Mocha, Kiki, Sophia, and AMANDA! ... no GINGER! After looking up the ad, just minutes from the spa, I remained skeptical, as something similar appeared on at least one of my prior attempts, so I called and spoke to Keiko. When I asked if Amanda is available this morning, Keiko reported that Amanda is on vacation, "but we have FOUR girls working who will please. Come check it out!" This report about Ginger makes me wonder if they simply haven't found, and labeled, some pictures of a girl that sorta almost kinda looks a little bit like the actual Ginger, so they might just be using Amanda-pics for the time being. In any case, I no longer completely trust the names I find on their daily STG ads, and I recommend anyone go ahead and call to inquire about a specific name you may be interested in seeing. Keiko is still NOT going to take (or honor) an actual APPOINTMENT, but at least you'd know if your targeted girl is even working that day.

Since Amanda was, in fact, NOT there, and I've seen the rest of the talent, except Ginger, but then I almost never take the "new girl" as I've been disappointed several times in letting Keiko test out her new talent on me, I decided to pass and went on up the road to Spa Serenity to check out the talent there.

At Spa Serenity, I found Cici, a short little firecracker with an outgoing and funny personality that likes to joke around, while remaining VERY sexy. Cici is a short, stout (NOT FAT!), Chinese girl with nice LARGE bolt-on's that feel as natural as Mona's at NDS. All the way around a perfectly formed sturdy little body with perfectly formed 'features' up and down. She's ALMOST as fun as the Milk girls, although she remained clothed during the table shower (no soapy body slide), and TUMA never came up during my otherwise very satisfying time with her. I also didn't get the feeling that MSOG was something she would proactively offer on her own (and I didn't ASK because I am incapable, but that's me). I'm not sure she would even offer IF asked, as part of her overall attitude was all-about-the-money (which is NEVER something one would find at Milk). I still recommend her and I will repeat.

[Jaunty Plow]

Thank you all fellow mongers for great information and reports. I am headed down from Jax and see that Milk, BO and NDS are the places to be.

Is NDS the one on Sand lake?

Am I missing any others that should be ventured into? Any info you can provide is greatly appreciated. If you do not want to share here, feel free to DM.

[Miggles Mcgee]

Which one and where is BO?

Blue ocean is geico-adjacent. Usually not the best experience for most, but it suits some individuals tastes.

[RiotStar]

Well. Made it in this morning. Short wait as I relaxed and listened to the fun next door. Ginger was my masseuse. Sweet girl. And now I know what TUMA stands for.

Ohhhhh there's an actual Ginger? Man, I thought I misheard and thought Kiko was talking about Jun Jun. I had seen her and told Kiko to give me Sophia instead. Now it makes sense when she asked me "how did you see her in Oct when she just came?" Whoops my bad haha.

[LTlurker53]

Well. Made it in this morning. Short wait as I relaxed and listened to the fun next door. Ginger was my masseuse. Sweet girl. And now I know what TUMA stands for.

[Fred5568]

I have never been but would like to try if you get any more info please share. How do the girls look in there.

I used to go back in the day before Covid shut everything down and they left town it used to be Korean girls working their and they were very playfull the last service I got before they closed up was had a shower and she was all up in my spots. Then back to room she would start the massage with lights just about off and she was naked before I even flipped but before then she was all up licking the boys and butt hole had me on all fours and then the flip we had just as much fun. But recently their was an older lady probably mid to late 40's only working and yesterday their was a younger probably high 20 low 30 not fat but not skinny all most like a baby chunky face after she took her top off she said these are all real probably a b or c size. It was nice but she said more next time so I'm going to take her up on her offer in a day or so.

[Fred5568]

80 for a HE? Usually 40-50 covers it in my opinion!

I think the rule of thumb is dream of 200-240 for FS in the Orlando area at these places. Or 140-160 after the house fee is paid for FS.

I know o I know usually 40 for basic then I'll top at 60 if she takes top off at let me play (which she did) I'm going to give her one more try this weekend and see how far she will go and for how much if it's within range of the others then I'll try out and I'll report back.

[GhostVet]

80 for a HE? Usually 40-50 covers it in my opinion!

I think the rule of thumb is dream of 200-240 for FS in the Orlando area at these places. Or 140-160 after the house fee is paid for FS.

Any body been to the old Tokyo place I think it's called international therapy now not sure. Usually older call their every time I visited she always say come back new girl boom boom and making the motion. I went yesterday younger girl their only gave me a 30 minute option did some light touching on back then applied oil to butt area massaged a little then cleaned up and had me flip she light touch over stomach and close to the boys then said you take care of me I take care of you she asked what I wanted and of course not knowing I only had 80 on me and wasn't going to get dressed and goto truck. So I told her I only had 80 she says more to upgrade and told her I only had 80 she okay this time only she took top off and let me play and she started with HJ and kept telling me next time more fun. She said she's only been their for 3 days anyone else take part of these activities and if so is it a full menu their I don't want to slap down more money to only get the basics. Drop me a message please if you have.

[BrushYaHair]

Which one and where is BO?

Blue Ocean 50XX E Colonial Dr, Orlando, FL 3280X.