"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Shampoo55]

Per this video:

https://youtu.be/sx3Dg_igqVg

Looks like founder Brandon Wade is getting married and intends to totally de-emphasize the "sugar dating" part of the website! Now it is "suppose to be" just a 'dating website!

Wonder if the heat is getting turned up on the site as a venue for prostitution and now that he's getting married, wants to further insulate himself from FOSTA-SESTA type liabilities? Any one think things will change on the site? More stringent BOT reads of emails and any mention of sugar or anything that the BOT thinks is compensation will get you booted?

But clearly Wade is an idiot! He violated one of the primary "rules" - NEVER fall in lover with a Hooker!

No pre-nup? LOL! Reports are that he's worth $35 -$50 Million. That's some pretty expensive sex! Talk about over paying!

But WAIT! Did a search and looks like he got married in 2012, so 10-yrs later he's doing it again?

[JWalker350]

Of how to pay for SA without giving up personal information.

I just did it yesterday. I used the non-reloadable OneVanilla prepaid debit card. One thing. I tried to use it in the first hour or so after purchase. It failed. I checked the balance, sufficient funds were there. The next morning, I tried again and it went through fine. Give it some time.

Are you located in San Diego county? I could not find any OneVanilla card in several CVS or Vons. Just saw a lot of Vanilla Visa or Mastercard.

[RegularJoe1985]

As has been mentioned in this thread previously, there is a difference between a Vanilla prepaid car and a OneVanilla prepaid card. Perhaps that is the issue?
A majority of the experiences here have had success with OneVanilla. But hey if that doesn't work, just use your regular CC as that should go through!

Yes, I've always used OneVanilla card without any issue.

However, I can't find OneVanilla card anywhere near me at all. Checked multiple CVS / Walmart etc.

What I found is a card that looks very much like OneVanilla but it is called SecureSpend.

Upon further research it seems that OneVanilla and SecureSpend are same company with different websites - https://securespend.com/ and https://onevanilla.com/.

How so? Look at 'Where to Buy" at both sites and they have the same address. PO Box 826, Fortson, GA 31808.

[Shampoo55]

LOL. Meanwhile I tried it again today and got an account suspension for suspicious activity. Go figure.

As has been mentioned in this thread previously, there is a difference between a Vanilla prepaid car and a OneVanilla prepaid card. Perhaps that is the issue?

A majority of the experiences here have had success with OneVanilla. But hey if that doesn't work, just use your regular CC as that should go through!

[Member #6951]

Of how to pay for SA without giving up personal information.

I just did it yesterday. I used the non-reloadable OneVanilla prepaid debit card. One thing. I tried to use it in the first hour or so after purchase. It failed. I checked the balance, sufficient funds were there. The next morning, I tried again and it went through fine. Give it some time.

LOL. Meanwhile I tried it again today and got an account suspension for suspicious activity. Go figure.

[FarFarAway]

Of how to pay for SA without giving up personal information.

I just did it yesterday. I used the non-reloadable OneVanilla prepaid debit card. One thing. I tried to use it in the first hour or so after purchase. It failed. I checked the balance, sufficient funds were there. The next morning, I tried again and it went through fine. Give it some time.

[Member #6951]

Why don't you use the reloadable Vanilla card to buy a OneVanilla card as that seems to be the one that works consistently?

I gave the Vanilla Visa another shot. Didn't work either. Really not impressed. I guess I will just have to stick with my current rotation. Maybe I can give one of the gift cards to one of my existing friends LOL.

[BobLobLa]

Won't do married's so didn't even get to see private pics, but profile is very straight forward -- https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-32cc947862f9.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-6d0f32911c96 - in RVA for about 6 months, not her first rodeo.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-2c0329067926 -- lots doesn't add up on this profile.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ca2c08336cfe -- that's a whole lotta hot!.

[Shampoo55]

Well, this is mostly before I meet them. It helps ferret out the fakes, occasionally. If you can find them on fb or insta, then chances are they are at least real. And get some idea of what they are like. Maybe in your neck of the woods you have an abundance of real chicks that are game. That's not always the case everywhere. I can't total the amount of time I've wasted texting with profiles that are fake, or string along and then right before meeting, want $$ upfront.

"Connecting" and communicating through text is just horrible, and 20 year olds hate to talk on the phone. So if I can find out a little bit about them prior to meeting, it might help. Can't really hurt. And I've got the time to do it, if I want.

Once we meet, and have fun, I don't care what their story is.

Everybody develops a style that works for them. Me? I try to get them to text ASAP and those that want to chat or mess around won't do that. From there, I don't worry about those who play games as, for me, that is just part of the game and the price of admission. Got to put up with a few fakes and flakes here and there.

I am guessing for me the time invested to do a "deep dive" on a girl finding all of her SM stuff would be the same time invested as spent texting. I tend to ask pretty quickly what a girl is looking for and try to get to the point on text rapidly. For me that tends to do the weeding out.

But yeah, I agree. I don't really need to know a girl's real name, her friends names and all of the deep dive stuff. As long as she fucks like crazy and doesn't create a bunch of drama, then I'm cool. I don't give out my IRL info, so not really concerned about hers.

Oh and to OP. While G-images may be "crap" these days, it is better than anything else out there AND it is better than nothing. Toss a tool away? Not something my "managing risk" profile would accept. just saying

Most of that 'know who you are meeting" stuff applies to online escorts. There you want to make sure who the girl IS NOT! But that can all be solved by a M&G with the POT and making sure you don't state sex 4 money in your convos. Money for time, backrubs, dancing, etc as legal services clouds the picture to the safe side.

[Zerry]

This goes to more the "research" I do after making initial contact with a pot SB.

I do a pretty serious attempt at a deep dive on any pot sb's to see what their deal is. Sometimes you find their FB page and find more pics and see that the one they sent is several years old and they aren't as attractive now, or they have a BF, etc. , or might have a habit, etc. I like to find out as much as I can about them before I meet them. I think it helps avoid potential problems or drama situations down the line.

So, I was just wondering, what sites do you guys use to check pics?

For instance, a SB sends you her pic, what sites do you use for a reverse search of the pic, to see if the pic is real, or is being used other places, etc, or maybe get a lead on their fb / insta / whatever page? I'd even pay for the service, if it was good, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a free service. Just whatever site / service anyone uses for that stuff.

Or am I the only one that does this?

I just meet them for coffee.

It's 2022 even the cheapest cell phones have good cameras, if a girl is being dodgy about photos or has photos that look like they were taken with a potato I just stop engaging. Funny crops or photos with borders or black / white edges and / or low resolution are a good clue the photos are just stolen screen shots of photos. It's easy to rule 95% out without any research.

[Zerry]

So after 2. 5 weeks on Premium, being kind of frustrated with the SA site, I scored big. This was the first girl who followed through and met me. We clicked pretty well at lunch and she decided she'd be willing to meet up at a hotel next time. We ended up meeting the next night and everything worked out great. She's a 19-year-old college student and she still hasn't asked for money (although I did volunteer $120 in cash so far). She wants something consistent, so she sounds like a low-maintenance keeper that might even stick around just for the great sex.

And as a side note, my impression of some of the POT SBs I have messaged is that many of them don't care about coming up with something that works for both of you. Some of them actually want you to be direct and clear about your intent right off the bat, and lead them by the hand. And unfortunately, sometimes it's because they don't want to put in a lot of effort (see screen caps). Not surprising that we have a lot of low-IQ women with disorganized minds on the platform.

Chief those responses look completely reasonable.

[Almighty]

I don't do this anymore.

After a couple of years in the bowl, I came to appreciate that they can tell me any story they want and I believe them, as long as they keep coming back and satisfy me at a price point I can afford.

Well, this is mostly before I meet them. It helps ferret out the fakes, occasionally. If you can find them on fb or insta, then chances are they are at least real. And get some idea of what they are like. Maybe in your neck of the woods you have an abundance of real chicks that are game. That's not always the case everywhere. I can't total the amount of time I've wasted texting with profiles that are fake, or string along and then right before meeting, want $$ upfront.

"Connecting" and communicating through text is just horrible, and 20 year olds hate to talk on the phone. So if I can find out a little bit about them prior to meeting, it might help. Can't really hurt. And I've got the time to do it, if I want.

Once we meet, and have fun, I don't care what their story is.

[BobLobLa]

I don't do this anymore.

After a couple of years in the bowl, I came to appreciate that they can tell me any story they want and I believe them, as long as they keep coming back and satisfy me at a price point I can afford.

For those of us who are married, we are on the lookout for BSC red flags.

Wasn't that long ago some SB from RVA was outing married SDs on her FB page.

[FTP1999]

I don't do this anymore.

After a couple of years in the bowl, I came to appreciate that they can tell me any story they want and I believe them, as long as they keep coming back and satisfy me at a price point I can afford.

This goes to more the "research" I do after making initial contact with a pot SB.

I do a pretty serious attempt at a deep dive on any pot sb's to see what their deal is. Sometimes you find their FB page and find more pics and see that the one they sent is several years old and they aren't as attractive now, or they have a BF, etc. , or might have a habit, etc. I like to find out as much as I can about them before I meet them. I think it helps avoid potential problems or drama situations down the line.

So, I was just wondering, what sites do you guys use to check pics?

For instance, a SB sends you her pic, what sites do you use for a reverse search of the pic, to see if the pic is real, or is being used other places, etc, or maybe get a lead on their fb / insta / whatever page? I'd even pay for the service, if it was good, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a free service. Just whatever site / service anyone uses for that stuff.

Or am I the only one that does this?

[Ron Pamet]

So after 2. 5 weeks on Premium, being kind of frustrated with the SA site, I scored big. This was the first girl who followed through and met me. We clicked pretty well at lunch and she decided she'd be willing to meet up at a hotel next time. We ended up meeting the next night and everything worked out great. She's a 19-year-old college student and she still hasn't asked for money (although I did volunteer $120 in cash so far). She wants something consistent, so she sounds like a low-maintenance keeper that might even stick around just for the great sex.

And as a side note, my impression of some of the POT SBs I have messaged is that many of them don't care about coming up with something that works for both of you. Some of them actually want you to be direct and clear about your intent right off the bat, and lead them by the hand. And unfortunately, sometimes it's because they don't want to put in a lot of effort (see screen caps). Not surprising that we have a lot of low-IQ women with disorganized minds on the platform.