"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Ron Pamet]

So after 2. 5 weeks on Premium, being kind of frustrated with the SA site, I scored big. This was the first girl who followed through and met me. We clicked pretty well at lunch and she decided she'd be willing to meet up at a hotel next time. We ended up meeting the next night and everything worked out great. She's a 19-year-old college student and she still hasn't asked for money (although I did volunteer $120 in cash so far). She wants something consistent, so she sounds like a low-maintenance keeper that might even stick around just for the great sex.

And as a side note, my impression of some of the POT SBs I have messaged is that many of them don't care about coming up with something that works for both of you. Some of them actually want you to be direct and clear about your intent right off the bat, and lead them by the hand. And unfortunately, sometimes it's because they don't want to put in a lot of effort (see screen caps). Not surprising that we have a lot of low-IQ women with disorganized minds on the platform.

[DWinthrop]

Saw this one again over the weekend. I've been seeing her every once in a while since she was an 18 yo in NOVA. She's 20, not 24. Good lay, nice big tits and she's very submissive and moans loudly. Lets me hit it bare but insists I pull out for the finish. https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-c97735b26633.

[Member #6575]

Could this be the one? https://members.seeking.com/member/c...2-49342d6fb613.

She has since blurred her face on the Tryst ad but saw it when you first posted. Odd coincidence if not. Same last name etc.

Well spotted -- yes it is same girl. She had a load of very identifiable pictures on tryst -- and she took them all down -- then put just some back up with blurred face.

I am guessing she has not done this before -- certainly not as a full blown hooker -- and even her seeking skills look green.

I am talking to her via txt -- and she has also changed her number LOL I guess somebody told her that using her real number was a bad idea!!

SA.

[Ernest Ll]

This goes to more the "research" I do after making initial contact with a pot SB.

I do a pretty serious attempt at a deep dive on any pot sb's to see what their deal is. Sometimes you find their FB page and find more pics and see that the one they sent is several years old and they aren't as attractive now, or they have a BF, etc. , or might have a habit, etc. I like to find out as much as I can about them before I meet them. I think it helps avoid potential problems or drama situations down the line.

So, I was just wondering, what sites do you guys use to check pics?

For instance, a SB sends you her pic, what sites do you use for a reverse search of the pic, to see if the pic is real, or is being used other places, etc, or maybe get a lead on their fb / insta / whatever page? I'd even pay for the service, if it was good, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a free service. Just whatever site / service anyone uses for that stuff.

Or am I the only one that does this?

Google used to be great for this, but now is pretty much worthless. I've had several SBs who either used profile pics or texted me ones that I ultimately found on social media, but google couldn't find them. Was able to Sherlock Holmes my way to the IRL identities and checked socials to learn more about them.

I used to use Tineye, but not sure that works on social media anymore either.

[SBmidlo]

https://tryst.link/escort/mysticalmisfit

I am posting this here as this girl is behaving more like a SB than an escort -- and I get the feeling she is on tryst as her SD relationship has ended and she is after another.

She seems familiar -- not sure if she has been on Seeking or is a UTR from FB or whatever.

I am chatting with her -- and will see -- but any intel. Would be great if any of you guys recognize her.

Thanks.

SA.

Could this be the one? https://members.seeking.com/member/c...2-49342d6fb613.

She has since blurred her face on the Tryst ad but saw it when you first posted. Odd coincidence if not. Same last name etc.

[Almighty]

This goes to more the "research" I do after making initial contact with a pot SB.

I do a pretty serious attempt at a deep dive on any pot sb's to see what their deal is. Sometimes you find their FB page and find more pics and see that the one they sent is several years old and they aren't as attractive now, or they have a BF, etc. , or might have a habit, etc. I like to find out as much as I can about them before I meet them. I think it helps avoid potential problems or drama situations down the line.

So, I was just wondering, what sites do you guys use to check pics?

For instance, a SB sends you her pic, what sites do you use for a reverse search of the pic, to see if the pic is real, or is being used other places, etc, or maybe get a lead on their fb / insta / whatever page? I'd even pay for the service, if it was good, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a free service. Just whatever site / service anyone uses for that stuff.

Or am I the only one that does this?

[Member #6575]

https://tryst.link/escort/mysticalmisfit

I am posting this here as this girl is behaving more like a SB than an escort -- and I get the feeling she is on tryst as her SD relationship has ended and she is after another.

She seems familiar -- not sure if she has been on Seeking or is a UTR from FB or whatever.

I am chatting with her -- and will see -- but any intel. Would be great if any of you guys recognize her.

Thanks.

SA.

[SBmidlo]

Hit this one up https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-37ac9606361b.

She sent me a message and her number. Down on her luck widow trying to earn some favors. She has a roommate and they share a hotel room in the Glen Allen area. You can have a date with both of them for less than some of the younger ones are charging LOL. Or a date with her by herself is reasonable also.

No, I have not sampled and don't plan to. Just sharing information.

[Cowboy1964]

Brand new add on SA I believe she has been on here before as lacilou and or platinum blonde if anybody has had the pleasure please inbox me with a report thanks.

[FarFarAway]

Read her profile. Study her photos. Pick out some morsels for your opening line. Make her laugh / get her attention / show that you read her profile.

50% of opening messages hotties get are "hey, what's up" "check out my profile and let me know if you are interested" or some other generic, lazy, lame attempt.

For instance - https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-4f4df0fccd50 -- make a reference using a quote from the movie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-c5f77fde8b6c - she's 6'! Plenty of leg references without being crude, or throw some other sappy philosopical quote back at her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...b-ce519eced32c - mentions lazy morning in bed "I have a feeilng mornings in bed with a hottie like you wuld be very active!

Agreed. I'd also emphasize that all of these pointers and tips are in the archive below, which newbies would be advised to study up on, because all the info is there, and you don't have to post questions and hope for replies from experienced SDs.

[Johnny 5]

Read her profile. Study her photos. Pick out some morsels for your opening line. Make her laugh / get her attention / show that you read her profile.

50% of opening messages hotties get are "hey, what's up" "check out my profile and let me know if you are interested" or some other generic, lazy, lame attempt.

This is good advice along with what the others have offered. Like everything else in the bowl though, I think this depends on each individual's situation. In this respect, I think the process is very similar to a regular dating site: check the boxes first as a foundation, then talk and see if there's more to each other that we can work with.

I admit that I'm lazy and do some form of the "hey, what's up?" message 90% of the time. Of those, I get a response back to at least half, which is more than enough for me in the month or two that I'm usually active on the site. I will do a little bit more detail in the message for the ones I'm most attracted to, and for those that are slightly below my top targets but say in their profile that they want substance. However, I'm probably on the younger end of the SD demographic, or at least not older than most of the potential SBs' parents. I also have a complete profile that gives a brief description of what I'm about and what I'm looking for.

I think it helps a lot to have some self awareness in knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are, and just don't be creepy.

[TheHobbyLobby]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-942c74d0928e - pic seller. Claims to have had in person arrangement that ended badly and wants to build tru $t befgore meeting in person.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...c-37fd4fa8e8a4 - verified IRL. Just young, not really ready for banging someone 2-3 x her age.

If she isn't ready to bank anyone 2 or 3 x her age she will be severely handicapping herself. I don't know if there are any SD that are in their 20's or early 30's.

[BobLobLa]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-942c74d0928e - pic seller. Claims to have had in person arrangement that ended badly and wants to build tru $t befgore meeting in person.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...c-37fd4fa8e8a4 - verified IRL. Just young, not really ready for banging someone 2-3 x her age.

[Ernest Ll]

Read her profile. Study her photos. Pick out some morsels for your opening line. Make her laugh / get her attention / show that you read her profile.

50% of opening messages hotties get are "hey, what's up" "check out my profile and let me know if you are interested" or some other generic, lazy, lame attempt.

For instance - https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-4f4df0fccd50 -- make a reference using a quote from the movie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-c5f77fde8b6c - she's 6'! Plenty of leg references without being crude, or throw some other sappy philosopical quote back at her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...b-ce519eced32c - mentions lazy morning in bed "I have a feeilng mornings in bed with a hottie like you wuld be very active!

[FarFarAway]

Some good advice on this already. Let me add my 2 cents.

Your strategy depends on what your goals are. For me, the goal is to find one SB and make it last for awhile (1 or 2 years) and develop a friendship. While finding a suitable SB is an inefficient and frustrating process, I find it MUCH more difficult to END an SB relationship. Lots of things can go wrong here and it's hard to generalize. There is not much discussion about ending things on these forums. I suppose the most widespread practice is to stay anonymous and either drift apart or ghost. Six out of 10 of my last SBs from the last 10 years are still friends and we sometimes talk, and 4 of them have tried to return to me.

The profile is important, both yours and theirs. In your profile, spell out, as succinctly as possible, who you are (within your constraints of needing to be discrete) and what you want. Using humor helps. Your profile pics: A lot of guys are uncomfortable using real pics, so they find a pic of someone similar or they obscure their pic. In my latest attempts I've used no pic but just describe myself. I do think, however, that before meeting the woman in person you should send, via text, some recent pics of yourself. Sometimes I lose them at this stage, LOL. But I think it's only fair. Making a "meet and greet" as soon as possible is important. The communication in person is much more efficient. You should never lie and you should give information including pics as soon as you feel comfortable doing so. I am not very efficient at all on the SB sites, but I don't feel any guilt about how I have treated the women.

A well-thought-out profile by the woman piques my interest, though it could also mean that they are neurotic. Also, the word "fun" is a keyword the women often use to indicate that they are open to sex.

A rule of thumb is to go after a girl whom you might have dated when you were closer to their age. The 9's and 10's are out of reach for me, or I have to pay a huge amount, so I tend to avoid them. I'm happy with a 6 or 7. Another problem to anticipate is that because of differences in age and culture (how you grew up) you may not have a lot in common with these young women.

I really appreciate this post, we could have more of this, rather than 'what is on the menu of the girl in this profile' questions. For me, if I have spent a significant amount of time seeing a girl, more than a month or two, then I don't consider the idea of ghosting as viable. If we need to stop seeing each other, we need to talk about it. Of course, that is the sort of relationship I am seeking with a girl. YK, there is nothing more honest and open than an arrangement, because either of you can walk out at any time, with zero consequence. So, take advantage of that and speak directly. I was seeing a girl for 6 months, throughout we knew she would move to another state for a job once the pandemic settled down. Yes we're still in contact, I even saw her at Christmas. If we'd have had a little more time, we'd have gone to the FC, and I think it would have been zero allowance, b / c we are just that simpatico sexually, and IK that she hasn't been seeing anyone suitable to her in her new state. And she doesn't have a SA profile there either. I am definitely experienced in having one-off flings w / old GFs, of the sugar baby or other varieties.