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02-02-22 11:36 #7031Senior Member

Posts: 1156Are these Socialist
Are you that crazy? I will also answer.
Is Medicare socialism? In a sense, yes. An I paid into it for many years and still do.
Is Social Security socialism? It is because it is government forced retirement supplement. It is also a shitty return on my investment since I was forced to pay into it and would have done far better. Damn right I cash the check, I paid into that system so it is my money anyway.
Is the VA socialism? Not sure what you are asking so I will break it down.
Military Pension is NOT Socialism any more than a pension from any other corporation in America
VA Medical Benefits, It is and I only use to the bare minimum because I got hearing aids from them due to my hearing loss in the Army. Otherwise, I use my personal Doctor and military retired medical insurance
Education? Grade School? Absolutely and again, they take the $$ from us every year. When I could afford it, my kids went to a private school because they are government indoctrination centers.
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02-02-22 09:38 #7030Senior Member

Posts: 329Really?
You're really asking me if Social security is Sicialism?
Originally Posted by RogerOver
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Okey ill answer each one of your questions. Yes, yes, yes, yes and no, I cash the checks.
And yes, of course were talking about democratic socialism.
The rest I won't respond because I don't condone aggression and insults.
Like I said before, its just labels, do what makes you happy, who cares anyway.
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02-01-22 23:27 #7029Banned Member

Posts: 1610Fair enough.
Pete, I have thirty years more life experience than you. I was there in the sixties in Birmingham, AL. When the civil rights battles were all around, on the streets and in the schools, heard the concussion of the bomb when the 16th. ST. Baptist Church was blown up by the Klan and later learned that the thugs who blew up the church were men in my neighbourhood. In other words, I have lived it and not just read about it, in a different place than you but the point is that I have lived it and seen it and know the origins of the American version of socialism. However, I do appreciate your insights and where you are coming from. Thank you. By the way, I'd go with Spain if I were you. Been to both places and the food is better there and the women better looking too, especially those flamenco dancers. Good luck out there wherever you end up.
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02-01-22 20:37 #7028Senior Member

Posts: 329How can my view be naïve if I live there half of my life, almost 20 years, and my direct family continues to live there. Your based on what you read or watch on the news and I'm based on my life experience.
Originally Posted by HobbyMan51
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The media tells you to compare socialism to what happens in Venezuela or Cuba which are two very different things, those are communist and totalitarian countries. Europe has been a socialist for decades and decades and it's not spiraling towards nothing it's getting better and better. I'm actually among many other things, you're right maybe I should go back to Ireland since I have free education and free healthcare.
Corporations have brainwashed people into thinking that Socialism is an utopia mean while millions upon millions of people are living in it across Europe and Australia.
And yes, Most of the systems in this country are in fact socialist, when's the last time you sent the check to a fireman.
But anyway, you're a cool dude and bright as well and I don't want to argue with you, because at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, eventually I will be moving back home or somewhere a little bit warmer like Spain or Italy.
And we will all be happy.
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02-01-22 20:10 #7027Senior Member

Posts: 3305LOL. Fucking pussy. Can't even address any of the shit I asked. You are a cowardly little twat.
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02-01-22 19:07 #7026Banned Member

Posts: 1610Rogie rides again
Shhhhh, RogieBoy. This is an adult exchange between me and Pete so no soiled diaper brats like you are allowed to participate. Run along now like a good little putz, dipshit.
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02-01-22 18:23 #7025Senior Member

Posts: 3305Nobody cares what you buy
Is Medicare socialism? Is Social Security socialism? Is the VA socialism? Education? I sure hope you reject any checks from the US government that's not a tax refund.
Originally Posted by HobbyMan51
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The problem with dipshits like you, is identity politics is everything you crave. You can't tell the difference between "democratic socialism" or "revolutionary socialism. " You're only happy if you get to be white and exploit everyone that's not like you. Since you aren't sharp enough to pick up a dictionary or history book, you get frightened by a bogeyman with nothing more than someone saying "socialism. " In other words, you're fucking stupid and I am not worried one bit about you and your LARPers screaming "civil war. " It will be a short one before you all go back and sit in the fucking corner. Well..the ones that are still able to. lol
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02-01-22 11:57 #7024Senior Member

Posts: 1011But you're a liar, Joe. You even continue to lie after it's shown to you that you lied. What's up with that? You lying now? 'No one is dying on my watch' LOL. Motherfucking Capt America. I'm disappointed with all this. Here I was looking forward to getting old and fat so I could be just like my buddy Joe. An old fat man picking up the hottest strippers, shot girls and waitresses and taking them home w / o spending one thin dime. But now I don't know if that's true or also some made up bullshit.
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02-01-22 11:30 #7023Banned Member

Posts: 1610Sorry, not buying it.
Sorry Pete, but your take on Socialism is naive at best. Check out Venezuela when they went Socialist and see how that country spiraled into chaos. You are welcome to your opinion. This is America, after all. But, if you want to be a Socialist then I suggest you go back to Ireland. Socialists don't take away your money to give it to the poor? How long have you been here anyway? The Democrats have been doing exactly that since the mid-60's and it has accomplished nothing except creating a welfare state and a permanently dependent underclass. Socialism is a Utopian fantasy that can never be achieved primarily because, human nature being what it is, it will always morph into totalitarianism. It is what is happening in this country today. If you truly desire Socialism in this country then prepare for civil war because millions and millions of us are ready to make sure that this country never becomes a Socialist nation irrespective of your assertion that we are already 95% there. Ireland may indeed be Socialist in your terms. We will never be.
Originally Posted by PeteAppleSeed
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01-31-22 23:02 #7022Senior Member

Posts: 594Many would take to the streets here before seeing socialism let loose!
Originally Posted by PeteAppleSeed
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I agree with you on the labels, though. Spa? Massage? CAMP? KAMP? Can't we just enjoy all that they have to offer? Must we choose one or the other?
I say no. Vive la difference.
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01-31-22 20:10 #7021Senior Member

Posts: 674The labels are all mucked up. In the US, EU, everywhere.
Originally Posted by PeteAppleSeed
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01-31-22 18:11 #7020Senior Member

Posts: 329Okey
Like about 80% of my family still lives in Ireland and some other places in Europe and they call it Socialism. Sooo, there's that. My family in France actually took to the streets in protest at the threat of loosing socialism.
Originally Posted by Joesouncool
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And BTW you don't have to pick between Socialism and capitalism. I'm both.
No one has to be pinned into a determined label.
Actually, I'm nothing, no labels. Fuck everything, LOL.
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01-31-22 17:04 #7019Senior Member

Posts: 674Ireland is not socialist, neither is Europe. They fall into the area of social democracies.
Originally Posted by PeteAppleSeed
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My grandfather was a socialist. As much as it is shocking, I've read Marx, Lenin, Engels, and mao. Those were some crazy people. I prefer capitalism.
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01-31-22 14:54 #7018Senior Member

Posts: 1011You're of the belief that ins co ceo data, med data on all active duty military and public health Scotland data is 'fantasy bullshit' yet you link to a Reuters article?
Originally Posted by RogerOver
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'Any time now.' Interesting comment. Prior to the clotshot, what we've all known as vaccines went through an exhaustive study lasting up to 10 years. Reason being it took up to 10 years for negative side effects to be uncovered. And before you mandated, make someone get one of the vaccines especially our children, we wanted to be sure it was safe. The clotshot didn't go through any rigorous testing. There wasn't even a stage 2 study done on labrats. Yet Pharma was given full liability protection. Those who take the clotshot are the labrats and human mice and that testing is now. Only one year into the experiment, the testing, our best source for data, the US military data covering millions of dr / hospital visits and where all included have been mandated to get clot shot shows cancer diagnoses 5-year average (2016-2020) of 38,700 per year to 114,645 in the first 11 months of 2021. Myocardial infarction 269% increase. Bell's palsy 291% increase. Congenital malformations (for children of military personnel) 156% increase. Female infertility 471% increase. Pulmonary embolisms 467% increase. That's just one year into the experiment. And those included are younger and in better health than the society as a whole so that data skews even worse among all citizens not just active duty military. Maybe it's a one off, but if not imagine what that data will look like in the ten years normally given for a testing of a true vaccine. Maybe not dying off now other than ins co ceo data showing 40% YoY increase in non-China virus deaths in those 18 and above, but what's it going to look like in ten years? Some, professionals who were ahead of the curve two years ago speak to a mass extinction event, but I'm not there yet. You can attack me and call me names like dr dipshit but I don't provide medical advice, I only provide data and facts which triggers some including you. Why you scared of clot shot facts and data? You fat and old like your buddy Joe? His fear gets triggered by clotshot facts and data also.
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01-31-22 14:45 #7017Banned Member

Posts: 1610Exactly what I expected from an irrelevant, immature dick like you.
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