Massage Parlor Reports

[NyteCrawler]

Amsterdam was fun. The girls were hot. You could get QV for like $50. And you knew what you were gearing because they were right in the window. One of the five hottest women I've ever seen in my life was an escort I fucked there.

On the other hand the whole thing is always transactional. There's no GFE, no going over the clock, no off menu services. And because of the requirements for girls to constantly get tested the menus are very limited to avoid exposure. You are in and out and that's that.

I've never been to the ranches in Nevada but I've heard similar feedback. The menus are both more expensive and more closed than in Vegas. Vegas is a lot more variable in quality but I've had BBFS with the two hottest girls I've ever BBFS'ed there. From what I hear that's an impossibility in the ranches.

Brazil is very similar to this, but probably every club, called Boates there, have only the hottest women you've ever seen. No BBFS for same reasons, but I'm sure you can negotiate much better there. It's also very safe, secure, and well run. Most are dance clubs, with strippers, but they have hotels connected where you can choose what you want (hour, 2 hours, half day, all night). The whole thing there is totally different, dads take their sons to Boates, and it's common for bosses and subordinates to go out for drinks and then the clubs.

[Jinurso]

For those who have never had a glimpse of the world outside of the matrix.

Imagine a world where you are not looking over your shoulder and sneaking and hiding just to go into a massage parlor. Where there is no concern about cops. Where massage parlors weren't mostly cheap hole in the wall joints but spa quality well run businesses with excellent customer service and beautiful young women. Where an escort wouldn't dream of charging $400/ hour because she knows there are hundreds of younger hotter girls in the same city that would give equally good service for half as much.

The positive effect of decriminalization would be incredible. It isn't even a question.

Amsterdam was fun. The girls were hot. You could get QV for like $50. And you knew what you were gearing because they were right in the window. One of the five hottest women I've ever seen in my life was an escort I fucked there.

On the other hand the whole thing is always transactional. There's no GFE, no going over the clock, no off menu services. And because of the requirements for girls to constantly get tested the menus are very limited to avoid exposure. You are in and out and that's that.

I've never been to the ranches in Nevada but I've heard similar feedback. The menus are both more expensive and more closed than in Vegas. Vegas is a lot more variable in quality but I've had BBFS with the two hottest girls I've ever BBFS'ed there. From what I hear that's an impossibility in the ranches.

[Datsurman]

For those who have never had a glimpse of the world outside of the matrix.

Imagine a world where you are not looking over your shoulder and sneaking and hiding just to go into a massage parlor. Where there is no concern about cops. Where massage parlors weren't mostly cheap hole in the wall joints but spa quality well run businesses with excellent customer service and beautiful young women. Where an escort wouldn't dream of charging $400/ hour because she knows there are hundreds of younger hotter girls in the same city that would give equally good service for half as much.

The positive effect of decriminalization would be incredible. It isn't even a question.

Yes to #1. Clarification to #2. If you're talking about the streetwalker, then I'd disagree because there are communities in Chicago that believe their quality of life is impacted by droves of strung-out walking hoes in the neighbourhood. Clampdown on the streetwalker, leave in-door hoes alone. But even leaving the MPs alone is theoretically difficult since zoning laws forbidding RAs in sleeping on the premises, and other business licensing and health codes can impact their operation.

[MWiggly2]

You guys should be careful about using the BHC abbreviation there is Beijing health clinic on 30th and princeton and there is body health center on 39th and archer. If the comment was about younger girls it's the place on archer but someone could end up confused and disappointed.

Which one does Linda work at?

[SaleC]

Anyone know where Amber from princess works now?

If you know you know.

Feel free to PM me.

[Dbiz01]

The situation in Chicago can improve but two things need to happen:

1. A crackdown on crime.

2. The same NYC cessation of prosecution of sex workers.

Chicagoland has 10 million people. It's a huge market. There's a reason why certain places are busy from open until close.

Yes to #1. Clarification to #2. If you're talking about the streetwalker, then I'd disagree because there are communities in Chicago that believe their quality of life is impacted by droves of strung-out walking hoes in the neighbourhood. Clampdown on the streetwalker, leave in-door hoes alone. But even leaving the MPs alone is theoretically difficult since zoning laws forbidding RAs in sleeping on the premises, and other business licensing and health codes can impact their operation.

[ApplePiePussy]

More so, even if there are younger girls around and available to work, what's the likelihood any of these spas would hire them? These younger girls are direct competition for their cashflow. For example, how many times have you called ahead for your your ATF or that "younger" MT and when you arrive the other MTs scowl at you or her or blatantly lie and say they are so and so just to get your business? It's a rough scene these days.

There's definitely a granny cartel but overall, younger girls are just not interested in coming here. I've seen evidence on wechat. A lot of Chinese girls have never even heard of Chicago. I mean be honest. Did you know about Wuhan before the pandemic? That's a city about the same size as Chicago. Americans only really know Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, maybe Shenzhen.

[ApplePiePussy]

The situation in Chicago can improve but two things need to happen:

1. A crackdown on crime.

2. The same NYC cessation of prosecution of sex workers.

Chicagoland has 10 million people. It's a huge market. There's a reason why certain places are busy from open until close.

[Dbiz01]

All very valid sounding points. I like your pigeon theory as I was thinking the same thing recently. More so, even if there are younger girls around and available to work, what's the likelihood any of these spas would hire them? These younger girls are direct competition for their cashflow. For example, how many times have you called ahead for your your ATF or that "younger" MT and when you arrive the other MTs scowl at you or her or blatantly lie and say they are so and so just to get your business? It's a rough scene these days.

LOL!! The boss at the place will hire them immediately! The younger product will bring in more money for the MP. The older, less competitive RAs will either have to up their game or find an "old folks home" MP to finish out their days.

Money talks bullshit walks.

[Dbiz01]

Bottom dollar catfish rates in Chicago have become 200 hh /300 h. So there's also that. Just in the past year prices have skyrocketed here. The price of this hobby has dramatically increased since 2017 onward. Wages haven't increased until just recently, 2021 great resignation forcing some / few wage increases. I have one good longterm regular left with a wide menu, $120. Good time for anyone to retire or at least travel and only monger outside of chicagoland.

As a nation working class folks aren't doing well economically & there's probably way less active mongerors. The girls have the control of the market here and they're using it.

Not to sound argumentative, but which side of the market curves are you holding steady and which is shifting (are you saying demand is less or supply is less? Assuming your statement that demand is less, I. E. , fewer mongers, holding supply, and other factors that can impact demand, the demand curve shifts downward thereby lowering demand and creating a new quantity supplied at that price. Similarly, if RAs believe they can readily change price, the fewer mongers that are willing to pay at that price point.

At any rate, if these women think they can readily change price, with no commensurate change in services, mongers will look for substitutes to them elsewhere. The market is currently in flux, but until this pandemic becomes endemic, I expect things will not get better.

[SonnyBlack85]

Had more $ than time so I stopped in HS for hhr for 45. Nice looking myt who had a plunging dress that displayed her assets. She wanted 45 more to explore. Made me pay before indulging. Once back to massage she pulled away every time I got close to the goods. She said she wanted more $. I get a HJ and told her I would never return.

Man I walked out on her ass. Was overpriced And she was old as hell wanted 100 for a hand Job no roaming.

[ThroatSeek77]

Um, ok. But I was in NYC last month and the "spa talent" I saw pretty much said, "you want a BJ, $140". So there's that.

Bottom dollar catfish rates in Chicago have become 200 hh /300 h. So there's also that. Just in the past year prices have skyrocketed here. The price of this hobby has dramatically increased since 2017 onward. Wages haven't increased until just recently, 2021 great resignation forcing some / few wage increases. I have one good longterm regular left with a wide menu, $120. Good time for anyone to retire or at least travel and only monger outside of chicagoland.

As a nation working class folks aren't doing well economically & there's probably way less active mongerors. The girls have the control of the market here and they're using it.

[Satriani]

Had more $ than time so I stopped in HS for hhr for 45. Nice looking myt who had a plunging dress that displayed her assets. She wanted 45 more to explore. Made me pay before indulging. Once back to massage she pulled away every time I got close to the goods. She said she wanted more $. I get a HJ and told her I would never return.

[SpaGuy21]

The problem in Chicago, aside from what I just mentioned, is that Chicago mongers line up around the block to see post menopausal grannies like Judy, who then get on their phones and call all the other old bags around the country who can't get work in the cities with hotter and younger girls, so they keep coming here. It's just like pigeons. You feed one and next thing you know, 300 more surround you.

Chicago is where providers go to retire. They pump out handies until the arthritis won't allow it anymore. Then they sell herbs to the tourists in Chinatown.

All very valid sounding points. I like your pigeon theory as I was thinking the same thing recently. More so, even if there are younger girls around and available to work, what's the likelihood any of these spas would hire them? These younger girls are direct competition for their cashflow. For example, how many times have you called ahead for your your ATF or that "younger" MT and when you arrive the other MTs scowl at you or her or blatantly lie and say they are so and so just to get your business? It's a rough scene these days.

[Dbiz01]

Um, ok. But I was in NYC last month and the "spa talent" I saw pretty much said, "you want a BJ, $140". So there's that.

LOL! Excellent point. The mongers on this site believe they should pay the year 2000 prices in 2022! Then folks complain about the grannies but still patronize them. I wouldn't use NYC, one of the most expensive places in the world, as the measuring stick.

Let's face it. RAs come to Chicago to wither and die.