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  1. #25892
    Quote Originally Posted by ThroatSeek77  [View Original Post]
    Bottom dollar catfish rates in Chicago have become 200 hh /300 h. So there's also that. Just in the past year prices have skyrocketed here. The price of this hobby has dramatically increased since 2017 onward. Wages haven't increased until just recently, 2021 great resignation forcing some / few wage increases. I have one good longterm regular left with a wide menu, $120. Good time for anyone to retire or at least travel and only monger outside of chicagoland.

    As a nation working class folks aren't doing well economically & there's probably way less active mongerors. The girls have the control of the market here and they're using it.
    Not to sound argumentative, but which side of the market curves are you holding steady and which is shifting (are you saying demand is less or supply is less? Assuming your statement that demand is less, I. E. , fewer mongers, holding supply, and other factors that can impact demand, the demand curve shifts downward thereby lowering demand and creating a new quantity supplied at that price. Similarly, if RAs believe they can readily change price, the fewer mongers that are willing to pay at that price point.

    At any rate, if these women think they can readily change price, with no commensurate change in services, mongers will look for substitutes to them elsewhere. The market is currently in flux, but until this pandemic becomes endemic, I expect things will not get better.

  2. #25891
    Quote Originally Posted by Satriani  [View Original Post]
    Had more $ than time so I stopped in HS for hhr for 45. Nice looking myt who had a plunging dress that displayed her assets. She wanted 45 more to explore. Made me pay before indulging. Once back to massage she pulled away every time I got close to the goods. She said she wanted more $. I get a HJ and told her I would never return.
    Man I walked out on her ass. Was overpriced And she was old as hell wanted 100 for a hand Job no roaming.

  3. #25890

    I ain't buyin'

    Quote Originally Posted by Biliator  [View Original Post]
    Um, ok. But I was in NYC last month and the "spa talent" I saw pretty much said, "you want a BJ, $140". So there's that.
    Bottom dollar catfish rates in Chicago have become 200 hh /300 h. So there's also that. Just in the past year prices have skyrocketed here. The price of this hobby has dramatically increased since 2017 onward. Wages haven't increased until just recently, 2021 great resignation forcing some / few wage increases. I have one good longterm regular left with a wide menu, $120. Good time for anyone to retire or at least travel and only monger outside of chicagoland.

    As a nation working class folks aren't doing well economically & there's probably way less active mongerors. The girls have the control of the market here and they're using it.

  4. #25889

    Hot Star

    Had more $ than time so I stopped in HS for hhr for 45. Nice looking myt who had a plunging dress that displayed her assets. She wanted 45 more to explore. Made me pay before indulging. Once back to massage she pulled away every time I got close to the goods. She said she wanted more $. I get a HJ and told her I would never return.

  5. #25888

    Pigeon Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    The problem in Chicago, aside from what I just mentioned, is that Chicago mongers line up around the block to see post menopausal grannies like Judy, who then get on their phones and call all the other old bags around the country who can't get work in the cities with hotter and younger girls, so they keep coming here. It's just like pigeons. You feed one and next thing you know, 300 more surround you.

    Chicago is where providers go to retire. They pump out handies until the arthritis won't allow it anymore. Then they sell herbs to the tourists in Chinatown.
    All very valid sounding points. I like your pigeon theory as I was thinking the same thing recently. More so, even if there are younger girls around and available to work, what's the likelihood any of these spas would hire them? These younger girls are direct competition for their cashflow. For example, how many times have you called ahead for your your ATF or that "younger" MT and when you arrive the other MTs scowl at you or her or blatantly lie and say they are so and so just to get your business? It's a rough scene these days.

  6. #25887
    Quote Originally Posted by Biliator  [View Original Post]
    Um, ok. But I was in NYC last month and the "spa talent" I saw pretty much said, "you want a BJ, $140". So there's that.
    LOL! Excellent point. The mongers on this site believe they should pay the year 2000 prices in 2022! Then folks complain about the grannies but still patronize them. I wouldn't use NYC, one of the most expensive places in the world, as the measuring stick.

    Let's face it. RAs come to Chicago to wither and die.

  7. #25886
    Quote Originally Posted by Fit312  [View Original Post]
    Bad thing about parts of the West Coast is that there's a lot of petty street crime due to the masses of younger homeless junkies. There are a lot of sex workers in Vancouver and Seattle, but I was disappointed with the massage scene in Hollywood. I imagine that there's still plenty of call girls and streetwalkers. I had no problems getting FS at parlors in both Ventura and Orange counties in California. As far as NYC goes, I was delighted to learn that massage girls are soliciting tricks on the street in Flushing, Queens. Please find Google street view captures attached.
    LOL! This makes me laugh! Everyone expects to pay the year 2000 prices in 2022. It ain't going to happen. $40 for an HJ, $80 for a BBBJ? A line out the door at OD Wellness for a 60+-year-old giving a BBBJ? The papasan placing all the fake reviews for literally all MPs he and others own and you guys believe him? Heck, even the so-called mongers on this site don't always tell the truth or need to get their eyes checked. And since I'm making bold statements, I'll go further to declare that any monger that has found someone fitting their criteria of a "young" RA ain't sharing it on this site.

    Change has to come inwards to have change occur outward. I'm not traveling to CA, NYC, or FL for a piece of ass, nor paying $500 for an escort (especially since I can get a dynamite escort for $300 CDN in Toronto, Ottawa, or Montreal) in Chicago. Older escorts come to Chicago because people are willing to pay for them. The few younger ones I have seen here (meaning under 40) have always complained about cheap customers. The several I had their phone numbers, changed MPs for better tips, and finally just left because of the low tipping practices. Hell, even the so-called high price escorts in Chicago complain about some of their Chicago patrons.

    If you want to change things in Chicago, then we collectively have to change our attitudes and patronage of MPs. Those that have old ladies and shitty service, don't patronize them and let everyone know. Eventually, papasan and his minions will get the message, and you'll save a ton of cash in the process.

  8. #25885
    The flushing scene is really something. You talk to a girl and then go up to one of the rooms in the storefront. Pay and fuck. Its wild. The NYC AMP scene is price now 320-360 but that gets you an hour of pretty much everything, some places including BBFS cip, others add that as +100. Nice spas and crazy times in the shower rooms with the girls. Its just the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fit312  [View Original Post]
    Bad thing about parts of the West Coast is that there's a lot of petty street crime due to the masses of younger homeless junkies. There are a lot of sex workers in Vancouver and Seattle, but I was disappointed with the massage scene in Hollywood. I imagine that there's still plenty of call girls and streetwalkers. I had no problems getting FS at parlors in both Ventura and Orange counties in California. As far as NYC goes, I was delighted to learn that massage girls are soliciting tricks on the street in Flushing, Queens. Please find Google street view captures attached.

  9. #25884

    Greener Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    NYC, LA, SF, SD, Seattle, Toronto, Vancouver, Orlando all have grade A pussy, although the talent levels have dropped in those cities as well due to the pandemic. The only one that doesn't seem to have been affected is NYC. And that's probably due to the fact that the prosecutors are not prosecuting sex workers anymore, so the girls feel safer there.
    Bad thing about parts of the West Coast is that there's a lot of petty street crime due to the masses of younger homeless junkies. There are a lot of sex workers in Vancouver and Seattle, but I was disappointed with the massage scene in Hollywood. I imagine that there's still plenty of call girls and streetwalkers. I had no problems getting FS at parlors in both Ventura and Orange counties in California. As far as NYC goes, I was delighted to learn that massage girls are soliciting tricks on the street in Flushing, Queens. Please find Google street view captures attached.
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  10. #25883

    Wrs

    Quote Originally Posted by ConfuciusMan  [View Original Post]
    Went their to see Stephanie. Another website reviewed and said must see young cute girl. Also numerous reviewers said same thing. They also said other girls cute and young. You guys must be blind. I'm sorry do not go unless you like older late 50's women. Not even nice figures. She was overweight. I was very disappointed. I saw skinny one sitting in the room eating on massage table. She was not pretty at all and looked old.
    I saw Stephanie once years back for a fun naked covered L2 session, but she was fat then and hasn't gotten any younger. Kelly is your best bet over there as her menu is broad, if pricy, and she is relatively tall and slender with no visible baby damage. Funny, I showed Coco / Jessica of NH a picture of Kelly and she got jealous and started ranting about how Kelly was old and used makeup to cover it up. Every accusation is a confession, I guess.

  11. #25882

    Eva Belmont

    Decent massage, okay HJ at the end. Didn't negotiate tip but I left 60.

    Miki is very cute but didn't try.

  12. #25881

    Great Depression

    The Chicago market is in the middle of the Great ***** Depression. It's been a steady decline for 5 years now. The young ones don't want to come here anymore because of the crime and because it's cold as fuck and because Chicago is not a prime destination for Asian women. It's a secondary destination. NYC, LA, SF, SD, Seattle, Toronto, Vancouver, Orlando all have grade A pussy, although the talent levels have dropped in those cities as well due to the pandemic. The only one that doesn't seem to have been affected is NYC. And that's probably due to the fact that the prosecutors are not prosecuting sex workers anymore, so the girls feel safer there.

    The problem in Chicago, aside from what I just mentioned, is that Chicago mongers line up around the block to see post menopausal grannies like Judy, who then get on their phones and call all the other old bags around the country who can't get work in the cities with hotter and younger girls, so they keep coming here. It's just like pigeons. You feed one and next thing you know, 300 more surround you.

    Chicago is where providers go to retire. They pump out handies until the arthritis won't allow it anymore. Then they sell herbs to the tourists in Chinatown.

  13. #25880
    Quote Originally Posted by ThroatSeek77  [View Original Post]
    Chicago market is ridiculous compared to other parts of the country.

    Simple fact.



    You have to rely on this forum for Chicago because girls control the market here, where other cities your money goes a hell of a lot further.
    Um, ok. But I was in NYC last month and the "spa talent" I saw pretty much said, "you want a BJ, $140". So there's that.

  14. #25879
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinurso  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile on the escort board everybody is complaining that they can't get anybody who isn't fat, old or strung out for less than $500 anymore LOL.
    Chicago market is ridiculous compared to other parts of the country.

    Simple fact.

    You have to rely on this forum for Chicago because girls control the market here, where other cities your money goes a hell of a lot further.

  15. #25878

    Massage CLC in Jeff Park

    Tried this random place in Milwaukee and Bryn Mawr in Jefferson Park. 50 HHR and left 40 tip out at beginning. I got a super hot 20 something Chinese girl with huge tits and butterfly eyelashes. Jk it was a 50 something MMS although she did change out of her t-shirt and into a dress for me after letting me in. Free roaming and no discussion L1 nice light touch geisha technique at least initially. Hoping to get something more exciting one of these days until I have time to get out to the suburbs.

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