Non Pro's

[RadialSea]

Stay alert with this one, the usual conversation moves quickly with some good pictures and then the advance pmt comes in when it's time to meet.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a43c9...0-5126944189cc

[3Putt]

SA is still a goldmine, I meet a 90 pd 4-12 29 year old from the Philippines tonight dinner was res robin her choice, a cocktail or two in the room, my choice and non stop fucking for 90 minutes. For $$ I love SA! It is worth the hassle.

This is just women in general. It all costs money and time but I do think that overall, the SA / SB thing is worth it. Sometimes I tire of the effort that has to be put in because you have to work a ton of girls and deal with the fakes, the flakes, the ones who are fatter than their pictures, and the ones who realize that they're being hookers and back out. But every time I get impatient, I go and fuck Bently or something.

https://seattle.skipthegames.com/fem...y/297333399380

And I quickly go back to realizing that SA girls are just so much better. I mean, if you want to talk about fucked up, then try going back to doing normal dates with regular women. I took out this girl Ashley in Pensacola last month on consecutive dates. Meals totaled to $220 and entertainment was $160. And yeah, I fucked her all night after the second date but the time investment was enormous along with the energy expended to keep up conversation and constantly spit game. For all the negatives about the hobby, this way of life allows me to stay way more focused on my professional life as well as allows me to be a completely attentive father because there's no embedded woman to distract me. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but this is the correct way to live.

[DrtyHarry]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a6ef6...3-9d6727156e23

She went by Bhamlady9 in a prior profile, and her "Find Out" tagline was the same. We hit it off via messaging and she was sending me selfies and videos of her masturbating. She wanted to visit Seattle so I got her a round trip Greyhound bus ticket for 45 bucks. The night before, she told me how excited she was to meet me. The day of her trip arrived and she ghosted and blocked me on SA. I even went to the bus station at the time of her return trip and she wasn't there, so she didn't use the tickets. Very odd!

I like to think I can sniff out a scam, but I got taken for a 45 dollar ride. Sigh. I've got tons of selfies and masturbation videos though. It seems like she put in a lot of work for a couple cheap bus tickets that she didn't end up using.

Bitches be crazy man. She clearly didn't have the decency to even let you know that she was no longer interested. She probably sold the tickets to a friend or someone who needed to travel. Move on. You will never figure out what was going on in her twisted mind.

[DrTraveler]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a6ef6...3-9d6727156e23

She went by Bhamlady9 in a prior profile, and her "Find Out" tagline was the same. We hit it off via messaging and she was sending me selfies and videos of her masturbating. She wanted to visit Seattle so I got her a round trip Greyhound bus ticket for 45 bucks. The night before, she told me how excited she was to meet me. The day of her trip arrived and she ghosted and blocked me on SA. I even went to the bus station at the time of her return trip and she wasn't there, so she didn't use the tickets. Very odd!

I like to think I can sniff out a scam, but I got taken for a 45 dollar ride. Sigh. I've got tons of selfies and masturbation videos though. It seems like she put in a lot of work for a couple cheap bus tickets that she didn't end up using.

[TnaPorter]

This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. I'll jerk off until the day I die before I become a simp who goes in for that.

This is just women in general. It all costs money and time but I do think that overall, the SA / SB thing is worth it. Sometimes I tire of the effort that has to be put in because you have to work a ton of girls and deal with the fakes, the flakes, the ones who are fatter than their pictures, and the ones who realize that they're being hookers and back out. But every time I get impatient, I go and fuck Bently or something.

https://seattle.skipthegames.com/fem...y/297333399380

And I quickly go back to realizing that SA girls are just so much better. I mean, if you want to talk about fucked up, then try going back to doing normal dates with regular women. I took out this girl Ashley in Pensacola last month on consecutive dates. Meals totaled to $220 and entertainment was $160. And yeah, I fucked her all night after the second date but the time investment was enormous along with the energy expended to keep up conversation and constantly spit game. For all the negatives about the hobby, this way of life allows me to stay way more focused on my professional life as well as allows me to be a completely attentive father because there's no embedded woman to distract me. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but this is the correct way to live.

[DrtyHarry]

This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit.

+1. They (SPs, SBs or whatever you want to call them) only behave this way because we allow and condone that type of behaviour.

[Morgan Creamin]

Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.

This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. I'll jerk off until the day I die before I become a simp who goes in for that.

[Morgan Creamin]

$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

Fair point, but not, in my opinion, for an average looking middle aged sb.

[DrtyHarry]

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.

I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.

Agree with all the comments here, my budget is in the 300-500 range as well. For me though I would not consider an all nighter unless I have seen her before and know that we will click. Even if she is great in bed. If I am spending anything more than 2-3 hrs with someone I need to know we can talk and are aligned on things. I actually love my space and once I have cum a couple times and have had my fun, I really do not want additional time with a person unless I know both of us will gel. I have done overnights very rarely and most of them have gone exceptionally well because I have planned them and only committed after spending shorer appts. Micheal. I know you started this thread mostly for your travels. That is a similar situation under which I have done a few as well. Mostly I usually message them for a while before the visit and then do a quick short meet when we are there. I typically do that with as many women I can so that I have choices for the actual overnight.

[Original703]

https://www.seeking.com/member/0acd7...9-6270961c3144

Either GPS or scammer. Wants 3-4 K month and asks it you can cashapp her to prove that you're not a pretender. I told her that I don't pay without meeting first, then she ghosts me. Not surprised.

Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.

[3Putt]

$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

I am pretty sure I posted about her under a different SA user name. I had her come over to my hotel one morning I think we did 200 for the date.

[MrPumpNDump]

Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.

I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.

[TheNovelist]

I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.

I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.

[JustDc]

But 200-300 or 500 is definitely not the Seattle price. Luckily there are other cities and countries.

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

[Marko Ramius]

I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.