Rants and Raves

[TooHotForYou]

Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.

It blows my mind that people, even news reporters, are complicit in keeping the rub and tug model all wink wink. "Happy ending" has been in the lexicon for four decades now, everyone with a brain knows what's going on.

I don't know about that. I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck right now what people think of their business. All they want to see right now is that guy get tried and fried if that was possible.

Why are you trying to invalidate what Paul did for work? Sure, he hung around the shop (s) a lot, but he also did a lot of work. Please, give it a rest.

I know that many of those girls knew him. All I was trying to say was that he worked as a handyman and installed security cameras for a living.

How does his statement above yours invalidate what the deceased did for a living? SyD1971 simply said the girls all knew him (Michels). His second, completely separate statement suggests that many who were interviewed about the activities at the jack shack claimed that all activities were legit. Young's, of course, was a jack shack, not a legit parlor and Emily herself waxed many a carrot.

Just do several dozen DNA tests on the floor coverings and you'll find a wide variety of jizz samples, mine included.

And nothing more need to be said about it, may he rest in peace.

If Youngs says Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras then take youngs word for it. End of that. If Paul was the stalker who was stalking guys who went to AMPs, and remember this is a BIG IF, then he won't be stalking anybody anymore because he is no longer with us.

I'm in agreement with Youngs. The guy keeps questioning if Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras and there's no point to it. Guy needs to realize Paul may have been a handyman, installed security cameras. And may have been stalking mongers.

Since your new handle and first post in the aftermath, you've come on as a hard shill for Young's. Do you have a problem with the truth? Perhaps your surname is Clark or the other schmuck who publicly proclaimed that Young's was always professional (paraphrasing)?

If you have a problem with the truth, then consider selling it elsewhere because nobody here who has ever dropped a load of man mustard at Young's at the hands of Emily or her girls is stupid enough to be drawn in by you.

The truth needs to be told and your futile attempts to suppress such truths need to take a fuckin' rest.

The dude in question had serious issues, he chose to vent his personality here and, in doing so, rattled a lot of cages. I am assuming you know of his many handles and posts. True, his profession has nothing to do with his weird personality and nobody gives a shit about it, but you also noted that he was not exactly a respected guy by stating, 'And he may have been stalking mongers. ' Duh!

I think you've already answered your own concerns and the concerns of many. I personally will not contribute anything to his GoFundMe page (max has already been exceeded), but I won't waste my valuable time to shit on his grave either. YMMV.

Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.

Have some respect for those who've passed.

What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?

So totally in agreement with Night now and the other poster who was saying Youngs was trying to cover their rub and tug business model. Long story short youngs is on this forum trying to denounce Youngs was a rub and tug, totally unnecessary too. Just stop posting Youngs, you're already making yourself look pretty bad.

[SyD1971]

Have some respect for those who've passed.

We all do. They don't deserve to die. But the way Young's try to cover up and telling great stories about her simply make me sick.

[TooHotForYou]

What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?

Night's post I'm responding to now has made me pay more attention. Who are you anyway Youngs? Are you associated with Youngs massage where the first shooting happened? Why did you even come on this forum to post at all? I mean I'm sure there are people on here who are sorry for the victims and their families but coming on here talking about them like we knew or cared for these people on a personal level like you may have is not the best thing to do.

[TooHotForYou]

Lets remember the name of this thread is rants and raves, this is where you get to say what you want and nobody has to like it, how about we respect Nites right to post whatever is on his mind in this thread. To be clear I do not feel he is being disrespectful, I'm just saying in this thread you can pretty much say what you want, that is why its here.

Yes that's right and I don't think Night is meaning to be disrespectful either. He has made some great points but Youngs also has a good point.

[Niteluvr]

Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.

What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?

[SkyWookie]

Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.

Lets remember the name of this thread is rants and raves, this is where you get to say what you want and nobody has to like it, how about we respect Nites right to post whatever is on his mind in this thread. To be clear I do not feel he is being disrespectful, I'm just saying in this thread you can pretty much say what you want, that is why its here.

[TooHotForYou]

I do have a lot of respect for those who died. Talking about them doesn't hurt them in any way.

Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.

[Niteluvr]

Have some respect for those who've passed.

I do have a lot of respect for those who died. Talking about them doesn't hurt them in any way.

[TooHotForYou]

Have some respect for those who've passed.

Again I agree with you. Let's just move on now.

[Petey1015]

Paul ain't handyman, he just hang out at his favorite CAMPs (happened to be our favorites too) daily. Wrong place, wrong time.

Since your new handle and first post in the aftermath, you've come on as a hard shill for Young's. Do you have a problem with the truth? Perhaps your surname is Clark or the other schmuck who publicly proclaimed that Young's was always professional (paraphrasing)?

If you have a problem with the truth, then consider selling it elsewhere because nobody here who has ever dropped a load of man mustard at Young's at the hands of Emily or her girls is stupid enough to be drawn in by you.

The truth needs to be told and your futile attempts to suppress such truths need to take a fuckin' rest.

Have some respect for those who've passed.

[TooHotForYou]

Don't think I've ever heard about a stalker at Young's. All parlors have to deal with an occasional weirdo, but never heard of anything serious happening at Young's in particular.

Who knows if there has ever been a stalker at Youngs where Paul was killed. Who knows if Paul was Oldti. Who knows if Paul was stalking guys taking pictures of their license plates.

I'll start a new rant right now since we're on this. Who on here has been stalked after going to an AMP? I'll start with me. I was stalked a few years ago when I went to Massage Pro before they turned legit.

[Niteluvr]

Do you mean the Emily that was one that was one of the victims?

Emily was the owner and one of the victims.

[HaneDales]

Do you mean the Emily that was one that was one of the victims?

Please don't, Emily put mine there a number of times and being retired military, I know the feds have my DNA in their database.

[Niteluvr]

Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.

Don't think I've ever heard about a stalker at Young's. All parlors have to deal with an occasional weirdo, but never heard of anything serious happening at Young's in particular.

[TooHotForYou]

The dude in question had serious issues, he chose to vent his personality here and, in doing so, rattled a lot of cages. I am assuming you know of his many handles and posts. True, his profession has nothing to do with his weird personality and nobody gives a shit about it, but you also noted that he was not exactly a respected guy by stating, 'And he may have been stalking mongers. ' Duh!

I think you've already answered your own concerns and the concerns of many. I personally will not contribute anything to his GoFundMe page (max has already been exceeded), but I won't waste my valuable time to shit on his grave either. YMMV.

Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.