Rants and Raves

**HobbyMan51** · 03-22-21 17:07

Originally Posted by RedneckStud [View Original Post]

I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?

I too have a permit. I carry everywhere, years before this happened. The gun is useless in the car and also just gives a scumbum the opportunity to steal your gun and use it in ways that you would not want it used. The places I go to know that I carry and they are good with it, especially now, but then they have known me for a long time and they know I won't back down from a situation. New places might be different though since this is so fresh and they will probably be frightened at the sight or the appearance of a gun. In that case the emphasis should be on the term "conceal" so that they don't see it. As a responsible gun owner I'm sure that you know what to do and what will be the right call to make.

**SkyWookie** · 03-22-21 15:51

Originally Posted by RedneckStud [View Original Post]

I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?

I'm guessing a month ago they wouldn't have given it a second thought, but now they might panic, might even leave the room and call the police being subtle about it.

I'll stand by my opinion though if you don't feel safe entering a business without a gun, probably should skip going there unless you absolutely have to.

**Gary Ridgeway** · 03-22-21 15:44

I think as long as you were able to keep it 100% concealed you would be alright. But if they saw it they would think you were the police or had ill intent. The other problem is if you are required to leave room for table shower or saunas. I don't think it would be a good idea to leave it unattended. If you do carry, but leave it in car, for the love of god spend the 50 dollars and get a lock box for your car. The glove box or under your seat is not sufficient. It's a calculated risk. In all honesty you are more at risk in the parking lot vs actually in the spa. I am about as paranoid as can be. I think this incident was a once in a hundred year events. I would worry more about a straight up robbery at a spa then another avenger. I avoid Atl after dark. I scurry around during the day and head out of town at dusk. With that being said I realize most beefs at the clubs I go to are about past beefs, bad deals or " disrespect" none of which apply to me. I don't know these people and is too old to be a challenge to their respect. I elect not to talk about my opinions on Trump, blm and prison reform at the club. So thankfully the worse things that might happen to me is being ignored. In closing everywhere you go you are a target. If you like me find it hard to relax, but still need to engage in hobby it will be well worth it to spend the extra cash. Get a hotel room and lock door once she's in. Stay safe.

**HaneDales** · 03-22-21 15:09

Until things cool down a bit, I'm with you. I'm not visiting.

Originally Posted by DocHolliday35 [View Original Post]

Yep, while laying face down and naked. Or having sex when the door busts open by a lunatic gunman. I will have to stick to hotels as at least the door locks.

**RedneckStud** · 03-22-21 15:08

Originally Posted by HaneDales [View Original Post]

I highly doubt you belong to these professions so you can zip it. Only thing that resonated with me is the fact that any one us here could have been paint sprayed in those massages. Like we could have been killed very easily. I'm considering carrying a concealed permit.

I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?

**DrPornDawger** · 03-22-21 15:06

Originally Posted by TheWiseacre [View Original Post]

There are some small ways that the government has tried to claim the tax dollars lost. One example is a massage license, which you used to be able to get online for like $3,000. Now, you need 500 hours of clinical massage training, you need continuing education credits, and it's like $12,000 for a course. This is yet another reason why you see a lot of 40+ year old providers and owners in the area. Because a lot of those licensed providers got theirs back when it was a lot easier to get.

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I will add that saying they live here "tax free" is a bit of a misnomer. AMP providers pay property tax (if they own a home or rent), usage taxes (sales taxes, etc.) and a myriad of other taxes like all the rest of us. Do they pay little or no income tax? I would assume that most vastly underpay income taxes if they file at all. BUT that does limit their ability to collect social security etc.

I don't mind them earning "tax free" dollars. It's the IRS fault, for not looking into this because lack of resources. The solution is, and WiseAcre is correct on his assessment, the local, state city govt should collect on those license fees and provide health checks. Some cities make the local strippers hold a cabaret license in order for them to work.

If a MP gets 60-120 HJ to FS / patron. One average 3 customers / day (180 - 360) 5-7 days (I've know them to work 7 days, no vaca, damn workaholic asians 900-1800,1260-2520) so the range is 900-2520, that's 46,800 - 131,040 + tax free dollars. And that's on the low side.

The downside is, they have probably 10-20 years in the business.

Most "high-end, GPS" escorts only want to work on "low volume" basis and will charge for it.

**SkyWookie** · 03-22-21 14:51

Originally Posted by TooHotForYou [View Original Post]

If it was a hate crime against asians he would've killed asians and asians only. He would've waited for them to come out of their place of work and put a bullet in them one by one making sure they looked asian. That didn't happen. He went into these places and killed whoever he could quickly and then got out. Me, night, Aaron, Sgt. Soros, Worf, you, etc. Could've been laying on a massage table in any of those places or some other AMP, spa or whatever and somebody could've come in and started shooting anybody. Same thing goes for when some place gets robbed like a Citgo. Any of us could've been there. He killed a wife and mom of two children and a white guy that was at Youngs that was a regular. This is not a hate crime.

You've got a better chance getting shot and killed at any Atlanta convenience store / gas station. If you think it's all of a sudden dangerous to go to a massage parlor because one crazy (who is in custody) got stupid because he was horny you need to lay off the liberal cool aid.

Do you remember when a whack job shot up a mcdonalds some years back killing like 17 people? So did you think it was dangerous to go to mcdonalds after that? You can get killed anywhere anytime, for no reason. I'm all for getting a weapons license, but that's because no place in the country is safe, but a massage joint is no more dangerous than the grocery store. Heck in the past year been many grocery store shootings over masks.

**DocHolliday35** · 03-22-21 14:26

Originally Posted by HaneDales [View Original Post]

I highly doubt you belong to these professions so you can zip it. Only thing that resonated with me is the fact that any one us here could have been paint sprayed in those massages. Like we could have been killed very easily. I'm considering carrying a concealed permit.

Yep, while laying face down and naked. Or having sex when the door busts open by a lunatic gunman. I will have to stick to hotels as at least the door locks.

**HaneDales** · 03-22-21 14:23

I highly doubt you belong to these professions so you can zip it. Only thing that resonated with me is the fact that any one us here could have been paint sprayed in those massages. Like we could have been killed very easily. I'm considering carrying a concealed permit.

Originally Posted by TooHotForYou [View Original Post]

If it was a hate crime against asians he would've killed asians and asians only. He would've waited for them to come out of their place of work and put a bullet in them one by one making sure they looked asian. That didn't happen. He went into these places and killed whoever he could quickly and then got out. Me, night, Aaron, Sgt. Soros, Worf, you, etc. Could've been laying on a massage table in any of those places or some other AMP, spa or whatever and somebody could've come in and started shooting anybody. Same thing goes for when some place gets robbed like a Citgo. Any of us could've been there. He killed a wife and mom of two children and a white guy that was at Youngs that was a regular. This is not a hate crime.

**EarlSandwich** · 03-22-21 13:50

Out of curiosity, are any of the three now infamous spas reviewed here? Are they R&Ts or legit?

If they're R&Ts and the victims have family, etc. That the press is reporting on, doesn't that skew the narrative that these places are part of some international trafficking ring out of flushing NY and that their passports are confiscated and they're forced to sleep in the shop in squalid conditions?

**SkyWookie** · 03-22-21 12:27

Originally Posted by SgtLurker [View Original Post]

I doubt that logic. Me personally, I have only visited AMPs, not because they are Asian, but I just have not yet ventured to a non-Asian MP and based on what I find on this forum. The others are more expensive for just a Handshake.

He was probably the same and these are the only 3 or the main 3 he visited or tried to. Wait for the facts to come out in court and stop trying to Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

Facts are guy liked Asian sex, or spa sex and that is where he went. Guy is a nut and thought eliminating the women that tempted him would keep him from doing sexual wrongs. These are the facts as we know it based on the police investigation, anything else is just speculation. If he hated Asian I highly doubt he would have habitually shelled out 200 plus dollars to have sex with them.

Facts per the police is he attacked spas he had gone to only, he didn't just start shooting up every Asian spa in sight.

I hope people think for themselves and stop jumping on leftist theories of hate. Fact is liberals are drooling to call this a hate crime, when it's actually a crime of passion.

**SteveWeen** · 03-22-21 12:01

Yeah traffic sucks.

I had fajitas last night and I'm going to go blow mud on the massage table then ask for a table shower like nothing happened.

Originally Posted by RedneckStud [View Original Post]

WTF is it that 75 in Stockbridge always jams up around noon?! I want to hit a good spa in Locust Grove, but can't stay in traffic for the extra GD hour!! JFC!!

**RedneckStud** · 03-22-21 11:49

WTF is it that 75 in Stockbridge always jams up around noon?! I want to hit a good spa in Locust Grove, but can't stay in traffic for the extra GD hour!! JFC!!

**Sgt Lurker** · 03-22-21 09:13

I doubt that logic. Me personally, I have only visited AMPs, not because they are Asian, but I just have not yet ventured to a non-Asian MP and based on what I find on this forum. The others are more expensive for just a Handshake.

He was probably the same and these are the only 3 or the main 3 he visited or tried to. Wait for the facts to come out in court and stop trying to Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

Originally Posted by ILoveHo [View Original Post]

He drove 30 minutes after he hit an asian spa to find another asian spa and then crossed the street to find the third asian spas. All three businesses he hit are all asian. Why didn't he hit strip clubs? There are plenty of sex inside those strip clubs. He showed a pattern of finding only asian spas to hit. Don't forget Platinum, Tattletale is next door to the third asian spas he hit. 3 businesses were all asian owned. I would say it is a pattern. There are plenty of lingerie shops on the same street and on cheshire bridge road. The cost of getting sex in asian spas is similar to the strip clubs and lingerie shops. The girls in the strip clubs are younger, and better looking than the 40/50 years old in those spas. The tattletales girls are some of the best looking girls in Atlanta.

Enough said. Last post on this subject from me. All lives matter!

**Niteluvr** · 03-22-21 05:33

Originally Posted by Drbombay [View Original Post]

These are my views on this sad subject but this is how I see it:

1. Not a hate crime. Obviously if we read the reports he said he has been to these places before, and they have caused him to yield not to the temptation that they created in him so he decided to eliminate it in another way. For someone who supposedly hated Asians, why would he go there to get sex? Just like those Good Ole Boys may have been against my folks in the past (Blacks), Klegals like the Old Strom Thurman liked us enough to have a daughter by one and raise her separate and unequal. Racial hatred had nothing to do with this, simply a confused young man who didn't know how to channel his frustrations properly.

2. Why not the other businesses nearby like the strip clubs? I've got to admit I haven't been to this area, but from what others are posting here, it's the same set up you would see in places like San Diego, Honolulu, San Francisco with each type of business in some sort of ecosystem in nature like those small birds on the backs of large animals in nature that pick off the fleas. Each one needs each other to survive so naturally they would be near each other. Those animals that may eat those birds that pick the fleas off larger animals are not going to charge a rhino to get at one, but wait until one is alone and unprotected. A strip club is a fortress to get into and heavily armed. I'm assuming that one can actually buy an alcoholic beverage in those places so can you imagine what the bouncers have to put up with dealing with a bunch of liquored up men and women and they would be ready for this guy after the first shot. AMP's for the most part, some old lady in the back watching TV with the res of the girls and would be a soft target. Why? Most guys would be slow to go into a place if a bunch of Tong warriors were outside standing guard so they aren't going to be there. Plus he probably knew the scene at the ones he went to and knew what he would get away with. Nothing to do with race, but his ability to be able to get out. IMO, if the prosecutor could prove that, it would take away the insanity plea and clear the way for lethal injection. I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on message boards..

Very well said. I agree that the perp is a simple whack job and chose easy targets. He knew exactly what he was doing, planned it and carried it out. No hate crime but no insanity defense either. I'm curious to see how his lawyer handles his defense.