"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**ItsAHobby45** · 11-27-20 11:39

I've been talking to a new college age sb. She says that she's 100% blind which brings so many questions to mind. She is looking for kind of a fwb style arrangement and isn't picking on how much she's being paid. She said she's met a few guys from SA and didn't get a good feeling about them so it went nowhere. For some reason I'm really excited about the possibilities here. She's not a 9-10 which is what I normally go for in a sb but she's a 7-8 which is good enough for me. Her account has been deactivated but wondering if any of you guys have had dealings with a blind sb and if so, how did it go?

**FarFarAway** · 11-27-20 10:38

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

I'm not for any normal dating sites. I want to be discrete. I don't want my employees or friends to see me on any dating site. At less with SA my pics are set to private. I can be picky about who see them. Even with that I did endup FC a ex coworker's daughter I met on SA. Any site like Tinder is telling the whole world that I'm F-ing around. Back when I was single I did find profiles of people I knew on Tinder all the time. Like most guys on SA we need to be discrete.

I happened onto a deal to get a Match membership and have been on there a while. It is tough. I used real photos of someone close to me but not me, and disguised my personal details w / my sugar life. I have sent a zillion messages, spoken by phone w / only a couple. I did see several of the older women (I am 65) who have SA profiles are also on Match. A little easier way to locate someone who wants a date / roll in the hay.

I did change up my search to those under 40, and pretty much anyone who wasn't an obvious no got a provocative email about 'beneficial relationship with a much older man'. Absolutely zero uptake on that.

**Member #7176** · 11-26-20 14:58

I'm not for any normal dating sites. I want to be discrete. I don't want my employees or friends to see me on any dating site. At less with SA my pics are set to private. I can be picky about who see them. Even with that I did endup FC a ex coworker's daughter I met on SA. Any site like Tinder is telling the whole world that I'm F-ing around. Back when I was single I did find profiles of people I knew on Tinder all the time. Like most guys on SA we need to be discrete.

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

It's like Tinder, but targeting a Black demographic. It's a lot like Tinder with a lot of BS and scammers to sort through. As an older white man, I know if a 20 year hot Black woman swipes right, she is likely either a scammer or down to play.

**Ernest Ll** · 11-25-20 10:05

Or something along those lines. Sorry, no link because I blocked her sorry ass.

Nice looking blonde, mid 20's. Almost TGTBT but her photo at a slot machine looked legit.

She listed "Virginia, Virginia" as her location and I suggested she might be more specific, because in my experience VA, VA = Serbian teenager trying to scam $25 and she just lit into me on a multi paragraph rant about how I was the scammer!

Have fun with that one.

**FarFarAway** · 11-25-20 09:35

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

It's like Tinder, but targeting a Black demographic. It's a lot like Tinder with a lot of BS and scammers to sort through. As an older white man, I know if a 20 year hot Black woman swipes right, she is likely either a scammer or down to play.

To each their own. They're not for me. I don't want to get into *any* sort of debate, but I find the demographic statistics about STDs very illuminating. You can find these on the CDC website.

**Madaboutmax** · 11-25-20 08:48

It's like Tinder, but targeting a Black demographic. It's a lot like Tinder with a lot of BS and scammers to sort through. As an older white man, I know if a 20 year hot Black woman swipes right, she is likely either a scammer or down to play.

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

What's "BLK"? A new site we should be considering as a SA alternative?

**FarFarAway** · 11-24-20 18:28

Originally Posted by Jcn1965 [View Original Post]

I totally agree I've been on BLK and I've got 2 on there. Now I've also got a lot of bullshit or just no interested but the younger ones in their early 20's are way easier for me they know what they want and willing to do whatever to get it. Dinner then back to room and see you next week. I text maybe 20 and get one good response and then out of the good ones maybe 1 out of 5 we meet. Not great odds but the ones I have are not druggies or been slopped around. Fresh tight and game for whatever.

What's "BLK"? A new site we should be considering as a SA alternative?

**Jcn1965** · 11-24-20 15:56

Originally Posted by TomDickNHarry [View Original Post]

Make sure to read through this, it's a gold mine and will tell you everything you need to know.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Index-and-FAQ
You seem to already know how to spot the scams. The golden rule for me is no pussy no money, online or otherwise, other than gas money if they have a drive for the M&G. Looks like some people have forgotten that rule perusing through the posts for the first time in a few months and got taken. Just don't do it.

But I think an earlier reply to your post was spot on, figure out what you want to find because it can be anything you want it to be, from semi-pros straight to the motel, to one great girl that is your ideal type where there is a connection, maybe who is brand new to sugaring where you only see each other. Personally, my target market is the younger gals 19-25 who are new or at least don't have much mileage but I like variety so unless they knock my socks off I only see them a time or 2 to start. I do usually tell them early on that if it goes well we could meet every week or so, but they almost always take the hint, and don't respond badly if I reach out on occasion to hang out. I also have a couple that I have known for years that I see somewhat consistently that I mix in with the variety, these girls are attractive, freaky and sub, and come for very reasonable donations.
As far as donation, this is a debate that has been going on in this thread for years, but I haven't found that paying up gets either better quality or experience, in fact there's often an inverse relationship. Now I also differ in approach in that I do not discuss amounts before a M&G, which may be why this works for me. Because the type of girl I'm seeking is more concerned with liking someone, feeling safe and comfortable, and having fun than just doing it with anyone provided it's the highest bidder. So when she meets me and verifies that's present with me, she becomes much more agreeable. Every market varies, but have yet to be turned down in mine with someone I've met in person (and rarely even online when they insist on discussing first) at 300 a meet, and if they can't host I usually propose we split the room and do 250, which usually works. I had a very beautiful 25 yo slender blonde last week who asked for 500 and then immediately agreed to my 300 counter for example.Anyway, all the scammings, fakes and online only garbage has made it much harder but still gems out there. Happy hunting!

I totally agree I've been on BLK and I've got 2 on there. Now I've also got a lot of bullshit or just no interested but the younger ones in their early 20's are way easier for me they know what they want and willing to do whatever to get it. Dinner then back to room and see you next week. I text maybe 20 and get one good response and then out of the good ones maybe 1 out of 5 we meet. Not great odds but the ones I have are not druggies or been slopped around. Fresh tight and game for whatever.

**TomDickNHarry** · 11-24-20 15:07

Originally Posted by CuddlesGood [View Original Post]

Hi all, long time lurker on the forum but just getting started in the sugar bowl. I was wondering what do you message the SB if you initiate and how do you get them over to Snapchat or text. Thanks in advance and can't wait to share Intel.

Make sure to read through this, it's a gold mine and will tell you everything you need to know.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Index-and-FAQ

You seem to already know how to spot the scams. The golden rule for me is no pussy no money, online or otherwise, other than gas money if they have a drive for the M&G. Looks like some people have forgotten that rule perusing through the posts for the first time in a few months and got taken. Just don't do it.

But I think an earlier reply to your post was spot on, figure out what you want to find because it can be anything you want it to be, from semi-pros straight to the motel, to one great girl that is your ideal type where there is a connection, maybe who is brand new to sugaring where you only see each other. Personally, my target market is the younger gals 19-25 who are new or at least don't have much mileage but I like variety so unless they knock my socks off I only see them a time or 2 to start. I do usually tell them early on that if it goes well we could meet every week or so, but they almost always take the hint, and don't respond badly if I reach out on occasion to hang out. I also have a couple that I have known for years that I see somewhat consistently that I mix in with the variety, these girls are attractive, freaky and sub, and come for very reasonable donations.

As far as donation, this is a debate that has been going on in this thread for years, but I haven't found that paying up gets either better quality or experience, in fact there's often an inverse relationship. Now I also differ in approach in that I do not discuss amounts before a M&G, which may be why this works for me. Because the type of girl I'm seeking is more concerned with liking someone, feeling safe and comfortable, and having fun than just doing it with anyone provided it's the highest bidder. So when she meets me and verifies that's present with me, she becomes much more agreeable. Every market varies, but have yet to be turned down in mine with someone I've met in person (and rarely even online when they insist on discussing first) at 300 a meet, and if they can't host I usually propose we split the room and do 250, which usually works. I had a very beautiful 25 yo slender blonde last week who asked for 500 and then immediately agreed to my 300 counter for example.

Anyway, all the scammings, fakes and online only garbage has made it much harder but still gems out there. Happy hunting!

**Member #6575** · 11-24-20 13:28

No -- not her -- Tidad was right -- used the name Jade. Left for CA and has come back.

Originally Posted by Makethescoop [View Original Post]

Looks much like Megan with the star tattoos on her tits. Former stripper, wannabe tinder sugar baby. I've even seen her on SA once in a while. Maybe her after some photoshop

**Makethescoop** · 11-24-20 10:50

Originally Posted by SaTraveler [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/ae639...9-e4384311b8bc

Drama, drama. I had forgotten about the Jade name LOL She is serious GPS. And if she thinks you are pushy. Then it does not matter how much $$$ you are offering.

Looks much like Megan with the star tattoos on her tits. Former stripper, wannabe tinder sugar baby. I've even seen her on SA once in a while. Maybe her after some photoshop?

**Member #6575** · 11-24-20 09:22

https://www.seeking.com/member/ae639...9-e4384311b8bc

Drama, drama. I had forgotten about the Jade name LOL She is serious GPS. And if she thinks you are pushy. Then it does not matter how much $$$ you are offering.

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

This last one was kicking around backpage a few years ago. Fantastic body, beautiful face but the service / attitude ranged from barely engaged to coldly mechanical and the clock was always a factor. Now that she's trying to get a SD maybe she has warmed up her act but I'd advise you to not call her "Jade".

**Ernest Ll** · 11-24-20 09:18

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

This last one was kicking around backpage a few years ago. Fantastic body, beautiful face but the service / attitude ranged from barely engaged to coldly mechanical and the clock was always a factor. Now that she's trying to get a SD maybe she has warmed up her act but I'd advise you to not call her "Jade".

Didn't even bother making up a name when I asked what hers was "does it matter"? Was her answer. A few other replies make her seem mechanical. Shame, becasue the face and body are just my type.

**Tidad** · 11-23-20 22:08

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

Getting good messaging traction with.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6a891...a-65c438fa6761

And.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6bc27...e-b83cf20b65d8 -- says she is in RVA but lists Cville which makes me wonder if she isn't a scam.

Also.

https://www.seeking.com/member/61228...f-beef25cabfd9 looking to move to NYC in the spring.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ae639...9-e4384311b8bc

This last one was kicking around backpage a few years ago. Fantastic body, beautiful face but the service / attitude ranged from barely engaged to coldly mechanical and the clock was always a factor. Now that she's trying to get a SD maybe she has warmed up her act but I'd advise you to not call her "Jade".

**Reman3289** · 11-23-20 16:26

Agree completely. Set up a M&G and see where it goes. There is every kind of lady in the sugar bowl. And my sense is most of these women decide within 5-10 minutes of meeting you if they want to do the deed. One lady as much as told me so, we had taken a couple sips of our coffee and I said something like – "I hope you are comfortable with me I am a really good guy" (which is true BTW) or whatever and she just said "I know, I can tell. Do you want to come to my place" - mission accomplished! And goes without saying of course, always show up clean and well dressed, woman like that you know, LOL!

The real SB's (unlike pros or utr semi-pros) definitely run hot and cold as mentioned. Quick example, I did a m&g about a month ago with a lady and told her up front that I was just getting over a cold, but we still agreed to meet for a drink. She walks in the bar and I am just blown away – 5'10" late 30's (perfect for me as I am late 50's) perfect body 10+, well done fake tits and good looking – her pics were nowhere close to what a package she was. One of the hottest SB's I have meet to date, which is north of 20. I sense after about 10 minutes she is ready to go do the deed, no talk of $$, but I know she is ready, and not sure the idea of me having a cold even in this Covid era bothered her?

Unfortunately, I had to get home and I didn't have the time that afternoon – and I was kicking myself for 3 days. Took me another 2 weeks to set up a meet with her, and it was worth it. Unicorn status in my book and can't wait to see her again. If you are not prepared to pull the trigger with them when you meet, you may not get another chance or it will be a PITA to schedule with them again, especially if they are hot. They show up, need your sugar and are maybe even horny – always a bonus, what more do you want? And the poster is spot on, once you develop a physical friendship with them, they will usually meet you again and again. That's how this works!!