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Seekingbabbbyy. Definitely looks like photos were probably taken from somewhere else on the Internet. I'm skeptical she's real at all.
MissingArizona. This one screams "fake profile".
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That certainly is true in theory.
 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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A SB would be not be looking for two guys to do her at the same time for a bunch of money. That's an escort. A SB would be looking at a longer-term relationship where she's taken care of for 6 months to a year or longer.
In practice I've rarely committed to any long-term kind of deal with any of these girls. Usually it is meeting by meeting. My own observation is that very few girls on those sites are actually adult enough to be able to handle a long-term commitment.
For a few months in the early 2010's I had a $5 k / month arrangement with a beautiful girl who was also a major freak. The arrangement was that she'd spend at least two weeks a month with me and that there weren't many boundaries (we discussed them beforehand, basically no permanent damage or injury was permitted, she got an IUD at my expense so no bastards, &c) during our time together. She agreed and actually was okay with it, but in the end I became bored with her (even though the fucking was great) and she also had a serious maturity problem which made any public situation kind of fraught. But all in all it was money I was okay spending.
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She said an arrangement with those 2 guys (I understood the 2 guys knew each other and were friends but not her friends) was for good money and higher than what I offered.
So its was like a SB looking for an arrangement but in her case it was with 2 guys to have sex at same time.
Originally Posted by Michael1967
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A SB would be not be looking for two guys to do her at the same time for a bunch of money. That's an escort. A SB would be looking at a longer-term relationship where she's taken care of for 6 months to a year or longer.
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Originally Posted by Michael1967
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A SB would be not be looking for two guys to do her at the same time for a bunch of money. That's an escort. A SB would be looking at a longer-term relationship where she's taken care of for 6 months to a year or longer.
That's funny because I contacted that chick and rejected me because my profile said I was looking for something "casual" as opposed to "serious".
Hard to pinpoint what her angle is.
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The first one is fake and scammer. Has a sob story and just asks for money before meet. Will not meet you! Beware.
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Originally Posted by MyNickname
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I think she is a tease or going for the highest arrangement offer. She is probably still in SA to see if she can get a higher arrangement.
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A SB would be not be looking for two guys to do her at the same time for a bunch of money. That's an escort. A SB would be looking at a longer-term relationship where she's taken care of for 6 months to a year or longer.
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Originally Posted by KuatoKuato
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So after reading this forum I decided to spring for a premium membership on SA. It's been interesting. Lot of South American girls reaching out. I ask to see private photos but otherwise don't waste my time as I only want local.
What do those of you with SA experience think about this situation? She says she's a student at a local university and working part time. We moved off of SA and onto text message for "getting to know you" discussion, and after making it clear the specific activities I'm expecting to do during meetings when we physically get together we agreed to set up a meeting to test the waters. So, while I'm pleased with where we're at in terms of expectations, the things we'd do physically, there are a number of things that I'm chewing on.
1. She is pretty, her photos are. 7/10. She favorited me, not the other way around. My account is new. I'm not a catch. Other than my salary and net worth. Like the old Groucho Marx joke, "I don't want to be a member of any club that would have me".
2. During our chatting she would often refer to me as "babe. " What college aged woman calls people "babe"? Odd.
3. Her messages were always cheerful. Not too weird I suppose, but there's also lots of "I"m down with that" or "Yes no problems with that" or "Whatever / however you like it" when talking about activities and never any push back or clarifications (pretty much "regular" things, no anal, no BDSM, no fetish, etc but I did specify lots of oral). I explained that given my schedule there will be a lot of same day short notice situations where she will need to be ready to meet. Also when discussing allowances she never said how much. It was "whatever you feel comfortable with" or "I'll rely on your experience for how much" etc. So when I would say a $ amount there was never any push back. How does someone who is agreeing to meeting on the regular to pleasure me not have an expectation for a specific $ ballpark in terms of allowances? She pretty much rubber-stamp agreed to everything.
4. After we agreed to meet to test the waters, she came back with "are you available to meet (tomorrow) or (another day)?" which is weird because we just spent the previous 30 minutes talking about how I don't have schedule flexibility and won't be available until this weekend. Her question was like she wasn't even in the previous conversation. Very strange.
5. Very soon after changed the subject with a proposal to sell me pics / vids, etc for a donation. While I'm ok with offers to sell pics / vids I'd never pay given how much free is available out there. Anyway what was so odd was she went there after we agreed that we're going to meet soon. I told here that if she sent I'd add it to the reward for our first date. She asked me to pay for a bill that was due. I declined, explained that she was free to send may whatever she wanted but no allowances of any kind would happen until after we had our first date to test the waters, which she understood and was ok with. I wouldn't call this a red flag but rather simply awkward.
Anyway, when I add it all up I'm 60/40 on this in terms of believing that it is really her instead of some fat greasy dude in an RV park. At this point I'm wonder whether it's LEO running a honey pot sting, but why would they bother on SA? What do you think?
There are some real chicks on there who try and test and see what they can get away with, but might actually meet up with you. And there are some legit chicks on there who are really passive and agree to do whatever for whatever allowance. But the chicks who are trying to test you and get you to pay for stuff before meeting are not the same chicks who are passively agreeing to whatever. My hunch is that if you ever actually try and meet she'll come up with a reason why she needs some money before hand, she'll say her car has broken down or she's suddenly in some trouble or whatever.
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I think she is a tease or going for the highest arrangement offer. She is probably still in SA to see if she can get a higher arrangement.
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SA scammers have become more role players and elaborated. They try to connect and gather information on you. They will ask for money in different attempts like need transportation or a bill to pay and ultimately sell you online arrangement or photos until you meet. Worst case scenario you decline all and they sell all the information you shared about yourself to a scam / blackmail website that will publish your information in a web site like predator or john hiring hookers etc and later you will be contacted to pay to get your information out of that web site.
Originally Posted by KuatoKuato
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So after reading this forum I decided to spring for a premium membership on SA. It's been interesting. Lot of South American girls reaching out. I ask to see private photos but otherwise don't waste my time as I only want local.
What do those of you with SA experience think about this situation? She says she's a student at a local university and working part time. We moved off of SA and onto text message for "getting to know you" discussion, and after making it clear the specific activities I'm expecting to do during meetings when we physically get together we agreed to set up a meeting to test the waters. So, while I'm pleased with where we're at in terms of expectations, the things we'd do physically, there are a number of things that I'm chewing on.
1. She is pretty, her photos are. 7/10. She favorited me, not the other way around. My account is new. I'm not a catch. Other than my salary and net worth. Like the old Groucho Marx joke, "I don't want to be a member of any club that would have me".
2. During our chatting she would often refer to me as "babe. " What college aged woman calls people "babe"? Odd.
3. Her messages were always cheerful. Not too weird I suppose, but there's also lots of "I"m down with that" or "Yes no problems with that" or "Whatever / however you like it" when talking about activities and never any push back or clarifications (pretty much "regular" things, no anal, no BDSM, no fetish, etc but I did specify lots of oral). I explained that given my schedule there will be a lot of same day short notice situations where she will need to be ready to meet. Also when discussing allowances she never said how much. It was "whatever you feel comfortable with" or "I'll rely on your experience for how much" etc. So when I would say a $ amount there was never any push back. How does someone who is agreeing to meeting on the regular to pleasure me not have an expectation for a specific $ ballpark in terms of allowances? She pretty much rubber-stamp agreed to everything.
4. After we agreed to meet to test the waters, she came back with "are you available to meet (tomorrow) or (another day)?" which is weird because we just spent the previous 30 minutes talking about how I don't have schedule flexibility and won't be available until this weekend. Her question was like she wasn't even in the previous conversation. Very strange.
5. Very soon after changed the subject with a proposal to sell me pics / vids, etc for a donation. While I'm ok with offers to sell pics / vids I'd never pay given how much free is available out there. Anyway what was so odd was she went there after we agreed that we're going to meet soon. I told here that if she sent I'd add it to the reward for our first date. She asked me to pay for a bill that was due. I declined, explained that she was free to send may whatever she wanted but no allowances of any kind would happen until after we had our first date to test the waters, which she understood and was ok with. I wouldn't call this a red flag but rather simply awkward.
Anyway, when I add it all up I'm 60/40 on this in terms of believing that it is really her instead of some fat greasy dude in an RV park. At this point I'm wonder whether it's LEO running a honey pot sting, but why would they bother on SA? What do you think?
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Originally Posted by MyNickname
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She is a big tease. We had a meeting scheduled that she kept postponing for days and she ended up cancelling day before saying she had found two guys to do her at same time and for more money than arrangement we agreed. I see she is still on SA and given that she recently told me she got into the 2 guys arrangement then I don't know what her deal is.
So, basically, she's an escort, not a SB.
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She is a big tease. We had a meeting scheduled that she kept postponing for days and she ended up cancelling day before saying she had found two guys to do her at same time and for more money than arrangement we agreed. I see she is still on SA and given that she recently told me she got into the 2 guys arrangement then I don't know what her deal is.
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Originally Posted by Michael1967
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Oh, so much to say and so little time. I'll keep this one simple. Move on, probably is a guy.
A quick rule. If a woman contacts you first, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's basically contacting everyone. If a woman favorites you, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's favoriting anyone.
I do not respond to messages that just say "hey". I do not respond to messages that don't have at least two sentences in it and says something about my profile. Like any type of dating service, you will need to be the aggressor. If you sit back and wait for people to contact you, you will only get scammers.
Weird that you say this. She did view my profile before favoriting me. I checked. She also reached out with a real message, not just Hey. Weird?
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Originally Posted by Michael1967
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Oh, so much to say and so little time. I'll keep this one simple. Move on, probably is a guy.
A quick rule. If a woman contacts you first, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's basically contacting everyone. If a woman favorites you, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's favoriting anyone.
I do not respond to messages that just say "hey". I do not respond to messages that don't have at least two sentences in it and says something about my profile. Like any type of dating service, you will need to be the aggressor. If you sit back and wait for people to contact you, you will only get scammers.
One caveat- women with premium profiles can hide that they viewed the profile. But if they aren't showing a premium profile they are spamming.
One thing that always works- have them take a picture with something specific- my favourite is car keys and their face- if they cannot produce the picture they are a scammer.
Also LEO has way better things to do than do seeking stings, I have never heard of a LEO sting off of seeking.
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Originally Posted by KuatoKuato
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... Is there something that people should know?
I can't say one or the other is better. I have met girls off of Secret Benefits so at least some of their profiles are real.
There are a lot fewer of the weird rules on Secret Benefits and so you are somewhat more free to pursue whatever kind of deal you'd like. While I suspect messages are still monitored they aren't as aggressively monitored as SA.
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Originally Posted by KuatoKuato
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So after reading this forum I decided to spring for a premium membership on SA. It's been interesting. Lot of South American girls reaching out. I ask to see private photos but otherwise don't waste my time as I only want local.
What do those of you with SA experience think about this situation? She says she's a student at a local university and working part time. We moved off of SA and onto text message for "getting to know you" discussion, and after making it clear the specific activities I'm expecting to do during meetings when we physically get together we agreed to set up a meeting to test the waters. So, while I'm pleased with where we're at in terms of expectations, the things we'd do physically, there are a number of things that I'm chewing on.
1. She is pretty, her photos are. 7/10. She favorited me, not the other way around. My account is new. I'm not a catch. Other than my salary and net worth. Like the old Groucho Marx joke, "I don't want to be a member of any club that would have me".
2. During our chatting she would often refer to me as "babe. " What college aged woman calls people "babe"? Odd.
3. Her messages were always cheerful. Not too weird I suppose, but there's also lots of "I"m down with that" or "Yes no problems with that" or "Whatever / however you like it" when talking about activities and never any push back or clarifications (pretty much "regular" things, no anal, no BDSM, no fetish, etc but I did specify lots of oral). I explained that given my schedule there will be a lot of same day short notice situations where she will need to be ready to meet. Also when discussing allowances she never said how much. It was "whatever you feel comfortable with" or "I'll rely on your experience for how much" etc. So when I would say a $ amount there was never any push back. How does someone who is agreeing to meeting on the regular to pleasure me not have an expectation for a specific $ ballpark in terms of allowances? She pretty much rubber-stamp agreed to everything.
4. After we agreed to meet to test the waters, she came back with "are you available to meet (tomorrow) or (another day)?" which is weird because we just spent the previous 30 minutes talking about how I don't have schedule flexibility and won't be available until this weekend. Her question was like she wasn't even in the previous conversation. Very strange.
5. Very soon after changed the subject with a proposal to sell me pics / vids, etc for a donation. While I'm ok with offers to sell pics / vids I'd never pay given how much free is available out there. Anyway what was so odd was she went there after we agreed that we're going to meet soon. I told here that if she sent I'd add it to the reward for our first date. She asked me to pay for a bill that was due. I declined, explained that she was free to send may whatever she wanted but no allowances of any kind would happen until after we had our first date to test the waters, which she understood and was ok with. I wouldn't call this a red flag but rather simply awkward.
Anyway, when I add it all up I'm 60/40 on this in terms of believing that it is really her instead of some fat greasy dude in an RV park. At this point I'm wonder whether it's LEO running a honey pot sting, but why would they bother on SA? What do you think?
Oh, so much to say and so little time. I'll keep this one simple. Move on, probably is a guy.
A quick rule. If a woman contacts you first, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's basically contacting everyone. If a woman favorites you, check to see if she viewed your profile. If not, she's favoriting anyone.
I do not respond to messages that just say "hey". I do not respond to messages that don't have at least two sentences in it and says something about my profile. Like any type of dating service, you will need to be the aggressor. If you sit back and wait for people to contact you, you will only get scammers.
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