Non Pro's

[MaCross19]

Sassyb225:

https://www.seeking.com/member/bd291...5-e51a09f84996

Says Marysville but actually out in the sticks in Arlington. Has 3 kids and the saggy tits to prove it. Not fat though. Definitely has had a rough life, not sure if she is on anything but wouldn't be surprised. Had to pay cash because she didn't have a bank account. Apartment was pretty cheap and the mattress was on the floor. Went 3 rounds bare and loaded her up each time. Overall decent skills but definitely more the shy girlfriend type than the uninhibited sex kitten. Will not repeat, especially for 2. 5 but if you are up north and want a good volume play she might be worth it. Have videos if anyone wants to trade.

PNWbaabe:

https://www.seeking.com/member/fefcf...5-62429ae5562d

Lynnwood location and actually pretty cute. Definitely try and see her at night and ask for her to get dressed up. A few tattoos but nothing trashy. She wants an allowance plus you to pay for her beauty supplies / hair makeup / mani pedi. If you are looking more long term I bet she could be had for $300-400 per week. Decent skills but didn't get totally into it. After a few meetings decided it wasn't what I wanted.

[Paradigum]

I agree that it's more accelerated on SA and a lot of this advice is generalization and it depends on what you are looking for. I don't consider the meet and greet a true first date since I don't provide an allowance for a m&g either. I just want a chance to see what she looks like, see what her personality is like and to verify that she will actually show up. All of the SB's I've had good relationships with have welcomed a chance to just do a m&g first and they all put out on the first date where they got an allowance. The ones that want to hook up right seem to work more like providers and they definitely are just about the money and tend to be more flakey. I'm sure everyone has their own strategies on vetting potential SBs. I know what I want in an SB and this seems to work best for me.

++! Could not have said it better myself.

[Paradigum]

I usually do meet and greet at a local coffee shop so I can just acquainted with them. Make sure they're not psychotic. In my personal experience I can usually tell if they're psychos by how they dress. Even if they dress good because they want to show you that they look good, it won't be over the line whorish, and usually after we have some coffee and take them back to said place. Works real well and I think it's good to make sure they aren't weird. Met a couple that I didn't do that with and I was very disappointed in myself.

Do not bring them straight to your place or hotel. Absolutely not! Agree 100%. Need to meet somewhere public to gauge normalcy. I tend to prefer dinner as I am not a fan of coffee shops but I like to make sure they know no allowance provided for just dinner but they can walk afterwards if desired no qualms. Sounds like we are very similar. Dinner vs coffee being the difference. End basically the same if things go well.

[Member #6729]

Thought I'd share since I'm off SA again. She allowed bbcip, bbcia, super good dt, loved getting called *****, **** and everything else dirty. Super good kisser is you like that. She's super kinky and loves getting told what to do. She's not fat but she's also not skinny, a little bigger than average. Mom tummy I would say. Either way, she was fun. Damage was 3.

https://www.seeking.com/member/aff10...6-b3bd84907e4b

[MaCross19]

I know who you are talking about, "Hannah". I gave 300 on each meeting. Sometimes she would show up needing to take a shower. The teeth was something to be watchful for

Saw her once and did a video with her for 3. She does get around. Definitely a zpac girl if you catch my drift. Plus the whole faking that it hurts thing is annoying. Would not recommend.

I have a couple potential irons in the fire. Will report back the hits and misses.

[BurnerMale]

So I'm thinking of pulling the. Trigger and signing up on a sugar / arrangements site. Is there anyway to have this not show up on your credit card? Which site is better? Seeking arrangements or secret benefits.

[MyNickname]

I know who you are talking about, "Hannah". I gave 300 on each meeting. Sometimes she would show up needing to take a shower. The teeth was something to be watchful for.

Sad (dly?) I know exactly who you are referring to and now I know I overpaid. 5 Bills for 1 BBFSCIP is why I will not be seeing her again not to mention she is a little bigger than I had hoped. But the 24 yo made it onto the wall of shame (in the alcohol of fame). She did always have a big smile thus the story for the lost teeth (I was worried when I noticed.).

I've always wondered about this whole trade thing so I started to keep track. I have been with a total of 67 women off of the site. Half of them local and the other half while travelling. Is trading a thing?

[Member #6729]

Is that amount of effort paying off for you? My own personal experience is that sugar dating is a little more accelerated. Ones that have not wanted to put out on the first date are not very likely to on the following dates and are simply looking for the ATM to meet before they head to the mall. Also why I do not offer any allowance on an initial meet and greet if they say that is all they want as it's a major red flag to me that they are not looking for similar things.

I usually do meet and greet at a local coffee shop so I can just acquainted with them. Make sure they're not psychotic. In my personal experience I can usually tell if they're psychos by how they dress. Even if they dress good because they want to show you that they look good, it won't be over the line whorish, and usually after we have some coffee and take them back to said place. Works real well and I think it's good to make sure they aren't weird. Met a couple that I didn't do that with and I was very disappointed in myself.

[Twister100]

Yes / Yes / yes / etc / etc.

It started by my lawyer saying "just pay the *****" when she demanded another month of allowance. But now I stick to my guns a lot more. It's a risk of the SB dating scene and I have needed to call security / cops to have a SB removed from my hotel room multiple times. Outting I'm not too worried about as not married / not a big wig or anything. If anything I think a 19 yo SB with billboards posted around her university in an extortion scheme may be more demeaning than what could happen to me. I dunno. I dream what I would do if one ever tried to follow through on it.

But I won't ever run for public office as I'd be screwed. LOL.

Yes but I'm very careful with my personal info even with SB's I've seen multiple times so I've been able to avoid any major hassles.

[Twister100]

Is that amount of effort paying off for you? My own personal experience is that sugar dating is a little more accelerated. Ones that have not wanted to put out on the first date are not very likely to on the following dates and are simply looking for the ATM to meet before they head to the mall. Also why I do not offer any allowance on an initial meet and greet if they say that is all they want as it's a major red flag to me that they are not looking for similar things.

I agree that it's more accelerated on SA and a lot of this advice is generalization and it depends on what you are looking for. I don't consider the meet and greet a true first date since I don't provide an allowance for a m&g either. I just want a chance to see what she looks like, see what her personality is like and to verify that she will actually show up. All of the SB's I've had good relationships with have welcomed a chance to just do a m&g first and they all put out on the first date where they got an allowance. The ones that want to hook up right seem to work more like providers and they definitely are just about the money and tend to be more flakey. I'm sure everyone has their own strategies on vetting potential SBs. I know what I want in an SB and this seems to work best for me.

[Paradigum]

Nothing new having women flake out on you on SA but it seems to be more prevalent these days which is why I don't even bother trying to hook up on the first meeting any more. I just ask for a simple meet and greet and I confirm the morning of and again just before I have to leave and if I don't get a prompt response, I'll send a note saying since I haven't heard back from you I'm assuming you're no longer interested.

Is that amount of effort paying off for you? My own personal experience is that sugar dating is a little more accelerated. Ones that have not wanted to put out on the first date are not very likely to on the following dates and are simply looking for the ATM to meet before they head to the mall. Also why I do not offer any allowance on an initial meet and greet if they say that is all they want as it's a major red flag to me that they are not looking for similar things.

[Paradigum]

WTF. The first rule of usasexguide is you don't talk about usasexguide

I think SB's have their own site that they do the same damn thing based on username and phone number. Rotate!

[Paradigum]

Random question: Has any of you guys been burned by sb as in trying to extort you when you call it quits with them.
Ex: False accusations, outing you, pregnancy scares, knowing where you work and live (getting too comfy). Women are just crazy these days, how to weed them out?

Yes / Yes / yes / etc / etc.

It started by my lawyer saying "just pay the *****" when she demanded another month of allowance. But now I stick to my guns a lot more. It's a risk of the SB dating scene and I have needed to call security / cops to have a SB removed from my hotel room multiple times. Outting I'm not too worried about as not married / not a big wig or anything. If anything I think a 19 yo SB with billboards posted around her university in an extortion scheme may be more demeaning than what could happen to me. I dunno. I dream what I would do if one ever tried to follow through on it.

But I won't ever run for public office as I'd be screwed. LOL.

[Paradigum]

I've got one I wasn't sure I wanted to give up, but I think I'm moving on.

She's a white mid 20's, a bikini barista with a great body. I've met up with her a few times, she said she could sometimes host but she never was able when we tried to meet. She loves giving BBBJ with lots of DT, face fucking, eye contact, spit, and will let you finish on her face, tits, or in her mouth. BBFSCIP was totally open for me, but as usual YMMV. 350 and we'd usually spend 3-4 hours together. She doesn't do greek, but was basically excited and down for anything else.

There are two potential small issues. She is super tight and orgasms very easily. This means she can't take a pounding for a very long time. Also, I'm only slightly bigger than average and she had a little bit of trouble taking me so if you are bigger she might not be that into it. The other one is that she was in a car accident a few months ago. As a result she has a leg injury that makes it difficult to for her to be on top for very long, and also her bottom row of teeth is a little bit fucked up towards the back of her mouth. Noticeable, but not terrible. She said she is getting dental work done to fix it soon.

I'm willing to trade for intel on an SB who is good looking, 28 or under, not a pro, not expensive, and willing to do bbgreek. Only PM me if you are a senior member.

Sad (dly?) I know exactly who you are referring to and now I know I overpaid. 5 Bills for 1 BBFSCIP is why I will not be seeing her again not to mention she is a little bigger than I had hoped. But the 24 yo made it onto the wall of shame (in the alcohol of fame). She did always have a big smile thus the story for the lost teeth (I was worried when I noticed.).

I've always wondered about this whole trade thing so I started to keep track. I have been with a total of 67 women off of the site. Half of them local and the other half while travelling. Is trading a thing?

[SeattleSi]

Let me know how that goes. I need a new house cleaner, this just seems like a no brained to me. Haha

Just saw this post on Craigslist for a 23 year old Chinese girl (who is a professional data scientist) who will clean your house fully nude for $130/ hour.

In the ad it says, "Touching my body is never acceptable without my explicit permission," which to me says that it's a definite possibility (otherwise "without my explicit permission" wouldn't be there).

Has anyone here tried her? Anything to report? Please let me know if this is the wrong thread for this.

Link to ad: https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/h...148364980.html.

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