Rants and Raves

[Niteluvr]

I'm probably have more education than your entire family combine. You think replying with stupid comments on every other post here make you an educated person. Nah.

Read your post here, you are a resist idiot and that is it.

More education? Nah, you make mistakes an elementary school student wouldn't. Get a library card and use it!

[HaneDales]

This is so true! Dr. Fauci seems credible but man they just can't say "why'all we don't know what in the heck is going on". Just leave it at that.

=Worf359;4828107]With all the conflicting information from Doctors from every side the only doctors that I trust are Dr. Seuss and Dr Pepper.

[ST0808]

First, look at yourself very, very closely. Second, get an education. Third, read the first two points. Your biased, racist diatribe shows exactly what and who you are: nothing worth a molecule of oxygen. Let's everyone take a knee on you so the world can breathe better.

That was the G-rated version. You want the real version? PM me your address, punk.

I'm probably have more education than your entire family combine. You think replying with stupid comments on every other post here make you an educated person. Nah.

Read your post here, you are a resist idiot and that is it.

[TechSticles]

Thank you for the clarity and explanation Mr. Admin2. Succinct and to the point using facts and data. I can think of nothing else that needs to be added to this topic that makes it any easier to understand.

Dude. How's Admin2's dick taste? LOL.

[TechSticles]

Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?

There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.

Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.

What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.

Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.

Are you an epidemiologist in your spare time? The trumpster thing isn't relevant to me. You speak with some sort of expertise that I simply don't think you have beyond being an admin on a forum. Seriously. You either suffer from optimism bias or you simply fail to grasp the reality of the situation. Nice of you to bring up an alternate issue regarding lost income and poverty, which has nothing to do with tamping down a pandemic.

Let me put it simply. Your opinion doesn't mean any more that the dipshit that I replied to below. You should be a bit ashamed of using your admin pulpit to jump in and attack people, as if your bullshit comes with any more legitimacy than anyone else.

BTW, how's that classifieds site thing coming?

[Member #7133]

Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?

There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.

Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.

What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.

Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.

Thank you for the clarity and explanation Mr. Admin2. Succinct and to the point using facts and data. I can think of nothing else that needs to be added to this topic that makes it any easier to understand.

[Niteluvr]

The worst thing Trump did is promote racism like saying there are fine people on on both side. That is fucked up, there are no fine fine people on other side, one side want to enslave colored people and call them less human and other side just trying to survive in this fucking Trump world. Trump took this country back to 60's where some white mother fuckers (majority whites are decent people) could do anything to colored people and get away.

This Trump administration had no idea how to handle the COVID and tried to down play it. They started monitoring this in March and more than 100,000 died in just March, April, and May?? Do the math. If it would have been unchecked then it would be 300,000 or more in a year with all the shutdown and shit. Without shutdown and masks it could be million or more.

On the side note, I'm so amazed that there are lot of racist pigs on this site chasing pussy and praising an orangutan in the White House.

Sorry if I offended the orangutan species.

First, look at yourself very, very closely. Second, get an education. Third, read the first two points. Your biased, racist diatribe shows exactly what and who you are: nothing worth a molecule of oxygen. Let's everyone take a knee on you so the world can breathe better.

That was the G-rated version. You want the real version? PM me your address, punk.

[Admin2]

I'm going to assume you aren't any sort of health professional (or scholar since you don't know what punctuation and paragraphs look like) but you speak with a certainty that's interesting. Then you devolve into who you voted for as if that matters about the corona virus.

You act as if the lives lost to the pandemic were simply inevitable when you make those comparisons. There's plenty of studies (none that you've read) that show that our failure to act early probably contributed and extra 30 K+ deaths.

I thought about spending time refuting your points individually, but it's tiresome. What I'd like you do is go start hugging everyone you know that thinks like you. I see this as an opportunity to Darwin our way out of some stupid fucking shit.

Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?

There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.

Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.

What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.

Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.

[Member #7133]

I'm going to assume you aren't any sort of health professional (or scholar since you don't know what punctuation and paragraphs look like) but you speak with a certainty that's interesting. Then you devolve into who you voted for as if that matters about the corona virus.

You act as if the lives lost to the pandemic were simply inevitable when you make those comparisons. There's plenty of studies (none that you've read) that show that our failure to act early probably contributed and extra 30 K+ deaths.

I thought about spending time refuting your points individually, but it's tiresome. What I'd like you do is go start hugging everyone you know that thinks like you. I see this as an opportunity to Darwin our way out of some stupid fucking shit.

Your right, I don't use correct paragraph form in the spirit of saving space on this site. Not going to be able to grant your "Darwin" wish as I typically don't hug men and at this point don't do handshakes with either sex. If I am in an environment that requires it or around anyone at risk, I wear a facemask. Congratulations on probably reading more studies than I have. The track record of the author's of several of the mathematical models is not the best but absolutely, more masks and more shelter in place means less deaths. So, everyone upset about the unnecessary and preventable "30 K deaths" should go ahead and do an extra 6 months of shelter in place to "flatten the curve" and prevent even one more death that could be stopped. And for those that do, please don't ask for any more handouts during your hibernation or when you emerge as the risk takers and job holders have carried the shelter in place and unemployed by choice crowd about as far as we can stomach. I don't get personal or emotional about contrarian viewpoints. I wish you nothing but the best. Good luck.

[TechSticles]

How Many People Die of Cancer Each Year? In 2020, an estimated 606,520 people will die of cancer in the United States. Lung and bronchus cancer is responsible for the most deaths with 135,720 people expected to die from this disease. Just wanted to throw out those numbers to get some perspective. I don't minimize the number of people that will die from the virus but at some point our countermeasures become worse than the disease as the economy / job lossses are going to be devastating. It would be easy to eliminate most of the lung cancer. We would just ban all smoking. Not sure how Trump becomes the root of all this evil. The US death rate for the virus is lower than most of Western Europe which has similar medical access and treatment. If we really want to drive the numbers down the President could have everyone quarantine for another 6 months. I voted for and liked Obama, voted for Hilary (promise for Prison Reform), and think Trump is doing a decent job trying to balance an economic disaster that will effect 330 million people with a couple hundred thousand deaths. Guess the fact that he does't have a magic wand makes him the devil. Mr. Trump has plenty of faults but he has a bias for action and is light years ahead of many presidents that we have endured over the past 50 years.

I'm going to assume you aren't any sort of health professional (or scholar since you don't know what punctuation and paragraphs look like) but you speak with a certainty that's interesting. Then you devolve into who you voted for as if that matters about the corona virus.

You act as if the lives lost to the pandemic were simply inevitable when you make those comparisons. There's plenty of studies (none that you've read) that show that our failure to act early probably contributed and extra 30 K+ deaths.

I thought about spending time refuting your points individually, but it's tiresome. What I'd like you do is go start hugging everyone you know that thinks like you. I see this as an opportunity to Darwin our way out of some stupid fucking shit.

[ST0808]

How Many People Die of Cancer Each Year? In 2020, an estimated 606,520 people will die of cancer in the United States. Lung and bronchus cancer is responsible for the most deaths with 135,720 people expected to die from this disease. Just wanted to throw out those numbers to get some perspective. I don't minimize the number of people that will die from the virus but at some point our countermeasures become worse than the disease as the economy / job lossses are going to be devastating. It would be easy to eliminate most of the lung cancer. We would just ban all smoking. Not sure how Trump becomes the root of all this evil. The US death rate for the virus is lower than most of Western Europe which has similar medical access and treatment. If we really want to drive the numbers down the President could have everyone quarantine for another 6 months. I voted for and liked Obama, voted for Hilary (promise for Prison Reform), and think Trump is doing a decent job trying to balance an economic disaster that will effect 330 million people with a couple hundred thousand deaths. Guess the fact that he does't have a magic wand makes him the devil. Mr. Trump has plenty of faults but he has a bias for action and is light years ahead of many presidents that we have endured over the past 50 years.

The worst thing Trump did is promote racism like saying there are fine people on on both side. That is fucked up, there are no fine fine people on other side, one side want to enslave colored people and call them less human and other side just trying to survive in this fucking Trump world. Trump took this country back to 60's where some white mother fuckers (majority whites are decent people) could do anything to colored people and get away.

This Trump administration had no idea how to handle the COVID and tried to down play it. They started monitoring this in March and more than 100,000 died in just March, April, and May?? Do the math. If it would have been unchecked then it would be 300,000 or more in a year with all the shutdown and shit. Without shutdown and masks it could be million or more.

On the side note, I'm so amazed that there are lot of racist pigs on this site chasing pussy and praising an orangutan in the White House.

Sorry if I offended the orangutan species.

[Member #7133]

That's very interesting since the latest info today from Johns Hopkins puts the USA Death toll at just under 114 k. I suppose that Trump hatred of yours is worth another 17 k or so? Not to mention the hospitals labeling every death they can lay their hands on as Covid-19 so that they can get more money from the Feds so we really don't know the true figures although you, the all knowing all seeing one, say it's over 130 k so it must be true, right? Also I seem to recall Fauci downplaying the virus as late as February and the Democrats calling Trump a racist for issuing the travel ban on Jan. 30. And now you give us your grand pronouncement that history books will name the virus after him. The only hoax and big joke I see is you. Unfortunately with such a terminal case of TDS that you and so many others have, the truth is most secondary to your testosterone boosting hatred. Hate on, while the country is destroyed around you. I know that I will receive a deranged response from you. Your type is always good for that, so predictable. I will not read it, and I will not respond especially not to someone who just pulls figures out of his ass and demands that we believe him. You are not in pursuit of the truth. You only pursue lies and hatred. Own that.

How Many People Die of Cancer Each Year? In 2020, an estimated 606,520 people will die of cancer in the United States. Lung and bronchus cancer is responsible for the most deaths with 135,720 people expected to die from this disease. Just wanted to throw out those numbers to get some perspective. I don't minimize the number of people that will die from the virus but at some point our countermeasures become worse than the disease as the economy / job lossses are going to be devastating. It would be easy to eliminate most of the lung cancer. We would just ban all smoking. Not sure how Trump becomes the root of all this evil. The US death rate for the virus is lower than most of Western Europe which has similar medical access and treatment. If we really want to drive the numbers down the President could have everyone quarantine for another 6 months. I voted for and liked Obama, voted for Hilary (promise for Prison Reform), and think Trump is doing a decent job trying to balance an economic disaster that will effect 330 million people with a couple hundred thousand deaths. Guess the fact that he does't have a magic wand makes him the devil. Mr. Trump has plenty of faults but he has a bias for action and is light years ahead of many presidents that we have endured over the past 50 years.

[Worf359]

With all the conflicting information from Doctors from every side the only doctors that I trust are Dr. Seuss and Dr Pepper.

[HobbyMan51]

It's not the China Virus but the "Trump Virus". He chose to call it a hoax and allow it to spread like wildfire and kill over 130,000 innocent Americans and still makes it seem like it was a big joke. So now he has to own it and the history books will name it after him.

That's very interesting since the latest info today from Johns Hopkins puts the USA Death toll at just under 114 k. I suppose that Trump hatred of yours is worth another 17 k or so? Not to mention the hospitals labeling every death they can lay their hands on as Covid-19 so that they can get more money from the Feds so we really don't know the true figures although you, the all knowing all seeing one, say it's over 130 k so it must be true, right? Also I seem to recall Fauci downplaying the virus as late as February and the Democrats calling Trump a racist for issuing the travel ban on Jan. 30. And now you give us your grand pronouncement that history books will name the virus after him. The only hoax and big joke I see is you. Unfortunately with such a terminal case of TDS that you and so many others have, the truth is most secondary to your testosterone boosting hatred. Hate on, while the country is destroyed around you. I know that I will receive a deranged response from you. Your type is always good for that, so predictable. I will not read it, and I will not respond especially not to someone who just pulls figures out of his ass and demands that we believe him. You are not in pursuit of the truth. You only pursue lies and hatred. Own that.

[Worf359]

]The first reported case was in China that is a fact. MERS aka middle eastern respiratory syndrome had its first case in the middle east. Wuhan a city in China had the first verifiable case. The origin of the virus is not political it is geographical. Just because you may or may not be a Trump supporter does not change were the virus originated. I was just having fun.