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  1. #11095

    This is exactly the right reason to join the pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Akadart  [View Original Post]
    My view is it aint going to fly on my end. I dipped my toe in the water and sent Christy of Akron a small amount for pics. I figured a good way to see how legit she was. Yea right. No response and no pics. Once the money is sent is no recourse.

    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...e/658288155972
    You sent the donation blindly. What if it were tied to a date? Kind of an all or nothing deal and this is exactly why I chose a local gal. Would I vote to purchase pix / vids from an email address post on STG? Hell no. But a local that I'm interested in seeing like you wanted to do? Yeah. Now you the monger hold the power, power of wallet. OK miss provider, I want the vid we agreed upon and the date we agreed upon. No vid? Well I'm sorry sweetheart, no date either. So your 5 carnation pool donation just bought you access to the 40 roses video. OR better yet, you have the ca-hones to TOFTT (you buy it, you review it) the pool pays you 20 carnations for the 411 AND you bring the pix / vids the pool pre-approved and you get that paid back from the pool as well.

    I'm sure the pool will get burned every once in a while. All our little heads will fuck us over every now and then. We're guys, we're stupid at times. But the way I see it hopefully working is a monger proposes a purchase. The pool votes to approve or deny the reimbursement. The monger takes the risk and pays for the purchase out of his pocket. The monger returns and presents to the pool the agreed upon purchase and gets the reimbursement. Now everyone is motivated to fulfill the deal. Miss provider is motivated because she wants the extra roses, Mr monger is motivated to get reimbursed for taking the risk AND cuming through, the pool members are motivated by having a lower cost access to the material / info they want.

    Just call me Monty "Let's Make A Deal Tig" Hall. I feel like Monty Hall but I look like Drew Carry and that's why I HAVE to pay for it.
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  3. #11093

    Make sense but.

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwize  [View Original Post]
    The main reason you are seeing the trend towards deposits, besides the availability of digital transfers, is very frequently the girl gets burned on the Outcalls. Either wrong address, they change mind and don't open the door, or whatever. Not only is the girl out of the gas, but very possibly passed on a legitimate date. 50 is high for a deposit. But I think an upfront payment of 20 as a show of good faith is reasonable. And worst case scenario, you're only out a relatively small amount. Odds are a deposit wouldn't be asked for on a 2nd date either.

    Stay safe.
    There is also risk we have to take of losing money for nothing. This is why I prefer incall.

    Thank you for your insights.

  4. #11092

    That is what I have thought also

    Quote Originally Posted by XmasBeagle  [View Original Post]
    The STG admins have no incentive to remove the BS ads. I've emailed them mos ago. While they respond quickly and are friendly, I think they're just overwhelmed, or like I said, don't care.
    It feels like they just don't care and too much.

  5. #11091

    Deposits

    My view is it aint going to fly on my end. I dipped my toe in the water and sent Christy of Akron a small amount for pics. I figured a good way to see how legit she was. Yea right. No response and no pics. Once the money is sent is no recourse.

    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...e/658288155972

  6. #11090

    Deposits

    The main reason you are seeing the trend towards deposits, besides the availability of digital transfers, is very frequently the girl gets burned on the Outcalls. Either wrong address, they change mind and don't open the door, or whatever. Not only is the girl out of the gas, but very possibly passed on a legitimate date. 50 is high for a deposit. But I think an upfront payment of 20 as a show of good faith is reasonable. And worst case scenario, you're only out a relatively small amount. Odds are a deposit wouldn't be asked for on a 2nd date either.

    Stay safe.

  7. #11089
    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    LOL.

    I agree with you on picking up your game, hygiene, and appearance. That's half the battle. But the reality is you're here on this board and you're still paying for it. Or, wait a minute, are the providers paying you? LOL. Join the pool I proposed and you could be paid for it.

    Tig.
    Yes I'm on here and yes I pay for it on occasion, but I also have sex with ten girls plus a week due to my own "addiction" using various sources of social media. I've never had to resort to any of this nonsense.

    Half the girls on STG will do it for. 6 that are asking $. 5.

  8. #11088

    Utr

    Anyone have a girl that will come to Ashland Ohio hotel. If so Pm me please.

  9. #11087
    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    How do you suggest to rid us mongers of this BS?

    Tig.
    The STG admins have no incentive to remove the BS ads. I've emailed them mos ago. While they respond quickly and are friendly, I think they're just overwhelmed, or like I said, don't care.

  10. #11086

    STG isn't getting rid of the deposit and vid posts so

    Quote Originally Posted by DigDuck1945  [View Original Post]
    It is not the place to sell their bs pics and videos and asking for 'deposit.
    How do you suggest to rid us mongers of this BS?

    Tig.

  11. #11085

    I don't like the deposit idea either but

    Quote Originally Posted by DigDuck1945  [View Original Post]
    I know a lot of times our 2nd head takes over the 1st hea, but seriously no one should 'deposit' for the service beforehand.
    If that trend grows it might be something we have to deal with. All I'm saying is if, and it's a big IF, IF there was a provider unicorn that came along that wanting a deposit that seemed to pass all tests a 5 would at least sting less than 50. I don't like the idea of deposits, but how else can you mitigate it if it comes to pass? Oh that's right, I'm just going to up my game, shit, shower, shave and I'm in. At least that's what I've been told.

    Tig.

  12. #11084

    Video sales has to go

    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceFair  [View Original Post]
    If these girls acted rationally they wouldn't suck dick for drug money. Probably won't work. The straight up scam ads with fake pics and emails only aren't locals and are the most annoying thing in the hobby right now. But hey do what you want.

    I agree tho. Offer your rate and take it or leave it.
    It is not the place to sell their bs pics and videos and asking for 'deposit.

  13. #11083

    Fake

    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...a/152823443183

    Image found on the other random sites.

  14. #11082

    I really don't understand

    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    Supply and demand. Monger demand outweighs supply of providers. Trying to drive down the price just won't last. Jimmy, you're on the mark. Set your limit and you get it or you walk away. If you got to have it then you have to pay the market price. One big change I've seen over the years is the increase in cash-and-dash and set ups. Jimmy is on the mark again, report it on this forum!! I think today's medication is so much more dangerous and addictive than in days past and thus the decline of provider quality. This coupled with it seems like the provider / manager ratio is 1 to 1. In the past managers took care of multiple providers and diversified the risk. Today it seems like every provider has their one bf / manager / pharmacist living with them and addicted to candy. This causes higher rates to fulfill the addiction and when that's not enough they turn into Bonny and Clyde with setting up mongers.

    The only saving grace is every once in a while I do get a provider that txt's me with a sale every now and then. But it NEVER fails, they get into my car and the up sell starts. I immediately pull over, stop, and get the quoted sale or it's game over.

    My final thought on the "Deposit Required" providers. I've got a Venmo account. Great for anonymous $ xfer. Throw a 5 spot in my Venmo and you join the pool. We build a balance and we choose a possible "Deposit Required" provider. Now I am no fool, I know 99.999999999999% of them are fakes. But I do think there is a unicorn out there every once in a while. There are a LOT of smart mongers on here that can see through the fakes and possibly recognize a gem. The pool builds $50 and for every 5 you toss in you get 1 vote. Yeah you could buy the vote but that would be stupid, you can just as easily send a deposit to any provider you want. The goal here is to diversify the risk to the group. Or if you just got to have those super hot Christy vids she's advertising we pool the $ for those. The benefits of a local provider is this type of video deal can be guaranteed as part of the provider service, ie video delivered in person by provider or no service and therefore no $ for provider. We put the video on a Google drive and only share to the pool. I can only say I've had great success dangling dead presidents in front of providers alone in a room. It does motivate them. Or are you a monger that's proud of some video work you've done with a provider? Put together a 10 second sample clip and if the pool wants to buy it YOU get the pool $ for a 5 min vid. Hell, even a TOFTT fund. If someone in the pool TOFTT they can claim $20. The pool agrees on the provider and how the claim is verified. Look at it this way you are the monger that takes the risk and get's $20. The report is for the pool first for 30 days, then it is released to the rest of the board. This could be very lucrative to the new UTR's. Why get thrown to the wolves on the board right away? A possible UTR could get vetted by the pool first.

    I don't know. Just spit balling ideas to help control the costs of mongering. PM me if your interested in pursuing any of these crazy ideas.

    Tig.
    I know a lot of times our 2nd head takes over the 1st hea, but seriously no one should 'deposit' for the service beforehand.

  15. #11081
    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceFair  [View Original Post]
    If these girls acted rationally they wouldn't suck dick for drug money. Probably won't work. The straight up scam ads with fake pics and emails only aren't locals and are the most annoying thing in the hobby right now. But hey do what you want.

    I agree tho. Offer your rate and take it or leave it.
    I agree with you. Have a price in mind that you want to spend. Seems like you can get FS from $100- $180, stick to it. Confirm through this Forum the provider is legit and will do what they say they will do. No bullshit. Confirm with the provider same before you hand over the cash. Deposit first is BS. Do not do it! Do not go with anything that is not what you / they agreed too. If you have a situation that goes South. Make sure to post it on this forum! Do not give them a second chance. Do not buy into their shit. Once a crook always a crook.

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