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  1. #11087

    Deposits

    The main reason you are seeing the trend towards deposits, besides the availability of digital transfers, is very frequently the girl gets burned on the Outcalls. Either wrong address, they change mind and don't open the door, or whatever. Not only is the girl out of the gas, but very possibly passed on a legitimate date. 50 is high for a deposit. But I think an upfront payment of 20 as a show of good faith is reasonable. And worst case scenario, you're only out a relatively small amount. Odds are a deposit wouldn't be asked for on a 2nd date either.

    Stay safe.

  2. #11086
    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    LOL.

    I agree with you on picking up your game, hygiene, and appearance. That's half the battle. But the reality is you're here on this board and you're still paying for it. Or, wait a minute, are the providers paying you? LOL. Join the pool I proposed and you could be paid for it.

    Tig.
    Yes I'm on here and yes I pay for it on occasion, but I also have sex with ten girls plus a week due to my own "addiction" using various sources of social media. I've never had to resort to any of this nonsense.

    Half the girls on STG will do it for. 6 that are asking $. 5.

  3. #11085

    Utr

    Anyone have a girl that will come to Ashland Ohio hotel. If so Pm me please.

  4. #11084
    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    How do you suggest to rid us mongers of this BS?

    Tig.
    The STG admins have no incentive to remove the BS ads. I've emailed them mos ago. While they respond quickly and are friendly, I think they're just overwhelmed, or like I said, don't care.

  5. #11083

    STG isn't getting rid of the deposit and vid posts so

    Quote Originally Posted by DigDuck1945  [View Original Post]
    It is not the place to sell their bs pics and videos and asking for 'deposit.
    How do you suggest to rid us mongers of this BS?

    Tig.

  6. #11082

    I don't like the deposit idea either but

    Quote Originally Posted by DigDuck1945  [View Original Post]
    I know a lot of times our 2nd head takes over the 1st hea, but seriously no one should 'deposit' for the service beforehand.
    If that trend grows it might be something we have to deal with. All I'm saying is if, and it's a big IF, IF there was a provider unicorn that came along that wanting a deposit that seemed to pass all tests a 5 would at least sting less than 50. I don't like the idea of deposits, but how else can you mitigate it if it comes to pass? Oh that's right, I'm just going to up my game, shit, shower, shave and I'm in. At least that's what I've been told.

    Tig.

  7. #11081

    Video sales has to go

    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceFair  [View Original Post]
    If these girls acted rationally they wouldn't suck dick for drug money. Probably won't work. The straight up scam ads with fake pics and emails only aren't locals and are the most annoying thing in the hobby right now. But hey do what you want.

    I agree tho. Offer your rate and take it or leave it.
    It is not the place to sell their bs pics and videos and asking for 'deposit.

  8. #11080

    Fake

    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...a/152823443183

    Image found on the other random sites.

  9. #11079

    I really don't understand

    Quote Originally Posted by MeTigger  [View Original Post]
    Supply and demand. Monger demand outweighs supply of providers. Trying to drive down the price just won't last. Jimmy, you're on the mark. Set your limit and you get it or you walk away. If you got to have it then you have to pay the market price. One big change I've seen over the years is the increase in cash-and-dash and set ups. Jimmy is on the mark again, report it on this forum!! I think today's medication is so much more dangerous and addictive than in days past and thus the decline of provider quality. This coupled with it seems like the provider / manager ratio is 1 to 1. In the past managers took care of multiple providers and diversified the risk. Today it seems like every provider has their one bf / manager / pharmacist living with them and addicted to candy. This causes higher rates to fulfill the addiction and when that's not enough they turn into Bonny and Clyde with setting up mongers.

    The only saving grace is every once in a while I do get a provider that txt's me with a sale every now and then. But it NEVER fails, they get into my car and the up sell starts. I immediately pull over, stop, and get the quoted sale or it's game over.

    My final thought on the "Deposit Required" providers. I've got a Venmo account. Great for anonymous $ xfer. Throw a 5 spot in my Venmo and you join the pool. We build a balance and we choose a possible "Deposit Required" provider. Now I am no fool, I know 99.999999999999% of them are fakes. But I do think there is a unicorn out there every once in a while. There are a LOT of smart mongers on here that can see through the fakes and possibly recognize a gem. The pool builds $50 and for every 5 you toss in you get 1 vote. Yeah you could buy the vote but that would be stupid, you can just as easily send a deposit to any provider you want. The goal here is to diversify the risk to the group. Or if you just got to have those super hot Christy vids she's advertising we pool the $ for those. The benefits of a local provider is this type of video deal can be guaranteed as part of the provider service, ie video delivered in person by provider or no service and therefore no $ for provider. We put the video on a Google drive and only share to the pool. I can only say I've had great success dangling dead presidents in front of providers alone in a room. It does motivate them. Or are you a monger that's proud of some video work you've done with a provider? Put together a 10 second sample clip and if the pool wants to buy it YOU get the pool $ for a 5 min vid. Hell, even a TOFTT fund. If someone in the pool TOFTT they can claim $20. The pool agrees on the provider and how the claim is verified. Look at it this way you are the monger that takes the risk and get's $20. The report is for the pool first for 30 days, then it is released to the rest of the board. This could be very lucrative to the new UTR's. Why get thrown to the wolves on the board right away? A possible UTR could get vetted by the pool first.

    I don't know. Just spit balling ideas to help control the costs of mongering. PM me if your interested in pursuing any of these crazy ideas.

    Tig.
    I know a lot of times our 2nd head takes over the 1st hea, but seriously no one should 'deposit' for the service beforehand.

  10. #11078
    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceFair  [View Original Post]
    If these girls acted rationally they wouldn't suck dick for drug money. Probably won't work. The straight up scam ads with fake pics and emails only aren't locals and are the most annoying thing in the hobby right now. But hey do what you want.

    I agree tho. Offer your rate and take it or leave it.
    I agree with you. Have a price in mind that you want to spend. Seems like you can get FS from $100- $180, stick to it. Confirm through this Forum the provider is legit and will do what they say they will do. No bullshit. Confirm with the provider same before you hand over the cash. Deposit first is BS. Do not do it! Do not go with anything that is not what you / they agreed too. If you have a situation that goes South. Make sure to post it on this forum! Do not give them a second chance. Do not buy into their shit. Once a crook always a crook.

  11. #11077
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1285

    A True White Knight:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aslinger  [View Original Post]
    I think you guys are a bunch of pigs. Most of you would be lucky to even get laid in real life.

    You want some girl to suck your nasty dick for $20. Guys like y'all that treat these girls like trash are the reason most of these girls got on drugs anyways.

    If you are tired of the dope girls, pick your game up and spend some real Jack on a clean girl on SA.

    Oh that's right, your broke ass only has $40 to spend.

    What you don't understand is if YOUR appearance was better, and you had enough personality to communicate like a human to these girls, you COULD bang them for their $40 fix, I know because I get too. I get drastically reduced rates all the time, especially on my second visit.
    It must be wonderful to be so perfect and be so lucky. Solldier on my man you seem to way ahead of the rest of us.

    Jimmy:

  12. #11076
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1285

    I Like The Union Label:

    Monger Union is a great idea, LOL. This topic really stired up some lively discussions!

    Jimmy:

  13. #11075

    Boycott

    If these girls acted rationally they wouldn't suck dick for drug money. Probably won't work. The straight up scam ads with fake pics and emails only aren't locals and are the most annoying thing in the hobby right now. But hey do what you want.

    I agree tho. Offer your rate and take it or leave it.

  14. #11074

    Oink Oink White Knight

    Quote Originally Posted by Aslinger  [View Original Post]
    I think you guys are a bunch of pigs. Most of you would be lucky to even get laid in real life.

    You want some girl to suck your nasty dick for $20. Guys like y'all that treat these girls like trash are the reason most of these girls got on drugs anyways.

    If you are tired of the dope girls, pick your game up and spend some real Jack on a clean girl on SA.

    Oh that's right, your broke ass only has $40 to spend.

    What you don't understand is if YOUR appearance was better, and you had enough personality to communicate like a human to these girls, you COULD bang them for their $40 fix, I know because I get too. I get drastically reduced rates all the time, especially on my second visit.
    LOL.

    I agree with you on picking up your game, hygiene, and appearance. That's half the battle. But the reality is you're here on this board and you're still paying for it. Or, wait a minute, are the providers paying you? LOL. Join the pool I proposed and you could be paid for it.

    Tig.

  15. #11073

    Capitalism at it's finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy5  [View Original Post]
    I second the motion. Things have gotten way out of control price wise and service wise. A temporary boy-cot would serve as a reminder who the customer is and what we expect. As I have said in the past so many of the providers have the 'Golden Pussy" syndrom and it has gotten out of control. Some of the rates for an HR are just rediculous! If you name a price and they reject it then just tell them that is all you will pay take it or leave it. You would be suprised how many will take it as they need the money. If they reject your offer then move on there are plenty more that will be glad to help you. I do not mean to cheapen any of the girls but some of these prices, physical cleanlyness and robbery attempts are just out of control. This was never heard of in the past. This hobby used to be fun, safe and reasonable. We need to act together and put these providers on notice that enough is enough. A temporary boy-cot even for a week would send a clear message. Also not agreeing to hight prices would scale back the rates that some are charging. Lastly anyone that is scammed, robbed or cash and dashed please report it so that all of us can boy-cot that provider. That is one of the reasons for this forum. Have fun, stay safe and best wises.

    Jimmy:
    Supply and demand. Monger demand outweighs supply of providers. Trying to drive down the price just won't last. Jimmy, you're on the mark. Set your limit and you get it or you walk away. If you got to have it then you have to pay the market price. One big change I've seen over the years is the increase in cash-and-dash and set ups. Jimmy is on the mark again, report it on this forum!! I think today's medication is so much more dangerous and addictive than in days past and thus the decline of provider quality. This coupled with it seems like the provider / manager ratio is 1 to 1. In the past managers took care of multiple providers and diversified the risk. Today it seems like every provider has their one bf / manager / pharmacist living with them and addicted to candy. This causes higher rates to fulfill the addiction and when that's not enough they turn into Bonny and Clyde with setting up mongers.

    The only saving grace is every once in a while I do get a provider that txt's me with a sale every now and then. But it NEVER fails, they get into my car and the up sell starts. I immediately pull over, stop, and get the quoted sale or it's game over.

    My final thought on the "Deposit Required" providers. I've got a Venmo account. Great for anonymous $ xfer. Throw a 5 spot in my Venmo and you join the pool. We build a balance and we choose a possible "Deposit Required" provider. Now I am no fool, I know 99.999999999999% of them are fakes. But I do think there is a unicorn out there every once in a while. There are a LOT of smart mongers on here that can see through the fakes and possibly recognize a gem. The pool builds $50 and for every 5 you toss in you get 1 vote. Yeah you could buy the vote but that would be stupid, you can just as easily send a deposit to any provider you want. The goal here is to diversify the risk to the group. Or if you just got to have those super hot Christy vids she's advertising we pool the $ for those. The benefits of a local provider is this type of video deal can be guaranteed as part of the provider service, ie video delivered in person by provider or no service and therefore no $ for provider. We put the video on a Google drive and only share to the pool. I can only say I've had great success dangling dead presidents in front of providers alone in a room. It does motivate them. Or are you a monger that's proud of some video work you've done with a provider? Put together a 10 second sample clip and if the pool wants to buy it YOU get the pool $ for a 5 min vid. Hell, even a TOFTT fund. If someone in the pool TOFTT they can claim $20. The pool agrees on the provider and how the claim is verified. Look at it this way you are the monger that takes the risk and get's $20. The report is for the pool first for 30 days, then it is released to the rest of the board. This could be very lucrative to the new UTR's. Why get thrown to the wolves on the board right away? A possible UTR could get vetted by the pool first.

    I don't know. Just spit balling ideas to help control the costs of mongering. PM me if your interested in pursuing any of these crazy ideas.

    Tig.

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