Rants and Raves

**Niteluvr** · 04-24-20 19:00

Originally Posted by Runon99 [View Original Post]

We are over 50 K deaths in the US already, on April 24, only another 10 K between now and September would be an excellent outcome -- seems unlikely though. If I was a betting man, I would take the over.

On CNBC this morning, Dr. Scott Gottlieb (former head of the FDA and still friendly with Trump Administration) said that what Georgia is doing now, opening up these types of places before the state has hit its peak of infections, is a model of "exactly what not to do. ".

Hopefully the MANNER in which these places open up again will show that it isn't such a bad idea as feared. News footage I have seen, while purely anecdotal, does suggest that most of these establishments are taking safety precautions, such as the wearing of face masks and comprehensive disinfecting between customers, even if they can't maintain 6 feet of social distancing. But that's hair salons and tattoo parlors -- massage parlors, which is obviously what we are all most concerned about specifically, are the wild card. Of course, we are looking at this question from the perspective of the types of massages that WE like to get, but there's no reason why both masseuse and customer can't be wearing face masks during a legitimate massage.

Anyway, looking forward to reading accounts of how this is working on the practical level, both in Georgia in general and in our little corner of the hobby specifically.

As for parlors, the feedback I got today from 6 parlors was that nobody was wearing a face mask.

"Welcome to the jungle, we got fun and games. ".

**Runon99** · 04-24-20 18:39

Originally Posted by Mike454 [View Original Post]

Models are only as good as the data that you enter.

The guy that did the "gold standard model" has redid it 7 times and it keeps going down.

Now down to 60 k deaths or less by September. Thats a long way from the 500,000 he had on his first model, that's was used to scare us all into shutting to entire country down.

We are over 50 K deaths in the US already, on April 24, only another 10 K between now and September would be an excellent outcome -- seems unlikely though. If I was a betting man, I would take the over.

On CNBC this morning, Dr. Scott Gottlieb (former head of the FDA and still friendly with Trump Administration) said that what Georgia is doing now, opening up these types of places before the state has hit its peak of infections, is a model of "exactly what not to do. ".

Hopefully the MANNER in which these places open up again will show that it isn't such a bad idea as feared. News footage I have seen, while purely anecdotal, does suggest that most of these establishments are taking safety precautions, such as the wearing of face masks and comprehensive disinfecting between customers, even if they can't maintain 6 feet of social distancing. But that's hair salons and tattoo parlors -- massage parlors, which is obviously what we are all most concerned about specifically, are the wild card. Of course, we are looking at this question from the perspective of the types of massages that WE like to get, but there's no reason why both masseuse and customer can't be wearing face masks during a legitimate massage.

Anyway, looking forward to reading accounts of how this is working on the practical level, both in Georgia in general and in our little corner of the hobby specifically.

**BigDaddyRob** · 04-24-20 17:03

Originally Posted by Bullett64 [View Original Post]

As Georgia has a population of approximately 10.5 million, ". 01 of 1%" equals approximately 1050 people. We have lost 838 as of this writing with little sign of a let up. The Governor's efforts to open the economy early will only cause the death rate to increase, so I think your estimate is wildly optimistic.

Not to mention the 20% that get hospitalized, anyone I have heard of that had it bad felt like they were dying, and on top of that it often takes weeks to recover, so not thanks, I will pass on this came of roulette.

**BigDaddyRob** · 04-24-20 16:53

Originally Posted by MassageAwesome [View Original Post]

Has anyone been hearing reports of rather the Covid19 is declining or increasing? I don't watch much news and not seeing much on social media. I did hear by May should be info of whether it'll all be "back to normal" (hence the quotes).

https://dhpexternal.dph.ga.gov/ncovr...ling_cases.png

https://dhpexternal.dph.ga.gov/ncovr...ing_deaths.png

**SeekingHead** · 04-24-20 13:47

Originally Posted by MrTattoo [View Original Post]

LOL how is a strip club an essential business?

A lot of pent up sexual frustrations need to be released.

**Jims2321** · 04-22-20 10:19

Originally Posted by AaronHamlet [View Original Post]

'But the USC data does offer some reassuring news: COVID-19 death rates may be lower than expected. When experts factor in those additional cases, the mortality rate plummets to less than 0.2 percent. '.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ll-us-n1188721

'which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have been infected. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county at the time of the study in early April. '.

https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody...ngeles-county/

Yes, and when then the CDC can start catching up on the backlog of cadaver tests to see if Covid was a cause of death / contributing factor, we will get a better picture. Honestly, if you want to gamble with your health, by all mean feel free. Just keep at least 6 feet away from anyone when you are out, that it not too big an ask.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...s-15217371.php

**Aaron Hamlet** · 04-22-20 09:22

'But the USC data does offer some reassuring news: COVID-19 death rates may be lower than expected. When experts factor in those additional cases, the mortality rate plummets to less than 0.2 percent. '.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ll-us-n1188721

'which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have been infected. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county at the time of the study in early April. '.

https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody...ngeles-county/

**Mr Tattoo** · 04-17-20 22:57

Originally Posted by BobSugarSmith [View Original Post]

Let us have this one. They can dress as drs and nurses or something. Make it like the scene in the sopranos.

Good luck on that LOL.

**Niteluvr** · 04-17-20 16:34

Originally Posted by TechSticles [View Original Post]

He's also free to stay and try to change things for the better. You could leave

I already bought one-way tickets for both of you to a deserted island in the Pacific.

**TechSticles** · 04-17-20 16:17

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

You're free to leave at any time.

He's also free to stay and try to change things for the better. You could leave.

**STandR** · 04-17-20 16:17

I commend you in your effort in trying to talk sense to the ignorant masses.

Originally Posted by SgtSoros [View Original Post]

Well, President Cuomo, opps sorry I meant NewYork Governor Cuomo, had every reason to be concerned about how fast COVID-19 was spreading in NewYork. See attached chart.

Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.

In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the dying with but not of line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.

**Sgt Soros** · 04-17-20 16:05

Originally Posted by SgtLurker [View Original Post]

When Cuomo cried that he would need 40,000 ventilators or people would die and at most, he used just a tad bit over 5,000; that should prove that people were running more scared and not using common sense.

Well, U.S. President Cuomo, opps sorry I meant NewYork Governor Cuomo, had every reason to be concerned about how fast COVID-19 was spreading in NewYork. See attached chart.

Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.

In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the dying with but not of line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.

**Niteluvr** · 04-17-20 10:00

Originally Posted by TMeister [View Original Post]

Any Native American has the God-given right to walk up to any of us and flip the bird in our face and say: "Get the fuck out of MY country".

They were here first. Finders keepers. We learned that lesson in grade school. Anything else is theft.

You're free to leave at any time.