Rants and Raves

[HobbyMan51]

Testing is the key for sure but nobody will convince me that the estimated body count went from 10,000,000 deaths to 60,000 deaths because some people stayed home.

When people say "do the math and see what happens" it seems to me that they are saying that the virus will continue to kill everybody like it did the people with underlying conditions at the beginning until there are millions and millions of dead. That's not happening in Sweden. They are taking a middle ground that regardless of how the super lefty press (I am a lifelong lefty) wants to persuade people is blowing up in their face is working really well. They are encouraging people to work from home if they can, they have limited school to two days a week, are providing all the help those in high risk groups need to self isolate but as to the rest they are trying to keep life as normal as possible.

Belgium has been in total lockdown for a month, they have 10,000,000 people in their population and they have 4,000 deaths, Sweden is taking a middle route, have 10,000,000 population and have had 1000 deaths.

This stringent social distancing along with the sever economic toll is going to have a bigger body count. 38,000 people die with each percent increase in joblessness. 10,000,000 people just lost their jobs, another 10-30,000,000 retirees just saw 40% of their retirement saving disappear, that's going to cause 200,000 deaths from poverty and homelessness.

Got to be something in the middle sir, something between nothing and burning down the economy.

Testing is the key, specifically antibody testing to start getting an idea how many asymptomatic people there are because once we do I'm betting that mortality rate drops to. 0 something percent. Once people see that then the risk groups can self isolate, and those that won't die from it can keep life going.

Just my opinion, really not trying to start a fight, really trying to get a dialog that gets people unstuck from the extremes and start looking for something that works for everybody.

A2.

Yes, there has got to be something in the middle. There is something in the middle. We were just too lazy and media-frightened to find that middle ground. Burning down the economy, as you put it, is no solution at all and as has been said before, the cure that is far worse than the disease itself. There has got to be a better way than this and next time there had better be a better way. Or else.

[Game Cock Too]

I know how to properly calculate percentages and don't have to multiply by 100. I use the % function on calculator, put in two number sets and hit enter. Works every time.

Tests are to diagnose. Good for sound bites, spread fear, but don't do much as an overall data point. Like you said, test aren't accurate one way or the other. I believe 70% accuracy is deemed acceptable. Who gets tested? Those presenting symptoms, those within a set baseline of symptoms? Those who want to get tested but aren't sick? Where are tests taking place? NY, NJ, La. , Detroit or in the middle of nowhere Idaho, Montana? The death rate from China Virus is nowhere near 4%. To date, 4% of confirmed cases may die, but the number of confirmed cases, that denominator is unknown. That's why I didn't use it as a factor. There could be 30,40, 50% of all carrying the virus and don't even know it.

Of course, 'don't catch it. ' If you're over 60 and / or obese, diabetic, pre-diabetic, cancer, you need to be careful. Still not death sentence. If you're under 60 and healthy, do what you want. Georgia has had 20 deaths from China virus in those under 60 and healthy. Horrible thing, but 20 out of approx. 9 million isn't a high risk. I'd bet much more die from suicide, murder, car wrecks, accidents, O. D. 's.

Asymptomatic individuals passing the virus to others is a concern if those it's passed to are 60+ and / or bad sick to start with. Even then not a death sentence. Healthy asymptomatic young people passing the virus to other healthy people isn't much of a concern. It's actually a good thing. Healthy person has virus, their body beats it, then they pass along a weakened version of virus. That person beats it, they pass along an even weakened version onto the next, then onto the next and the next and the next. That's how virus' disappear. The healthy among us, those not targeted, defeat them. That's why all humans weren't killed by previous pandemics

To date 608,458 CONFIRMED case in the USA, and 25,992 deaths equals 0. 0427178 or 4. 271%. And 0. 0427178 is vastly different than 0. 0427178%.

Some of the things that you say are logical. The bottom line is, we don't have a clue regarding this virus. It IS similar to the flu, but it's attack on the cells of the lungs are more vicious. The flu has many strands, so who's to say that the corornavirus doesn't have different strands. Viruses are spread when they are active. One person doesn't weaken it for the next person. When your kid gets the chicken pox, expect them to be afflicted for at least a week. But if they get the chicken pox vaccine, and if they DO get the chicken pox, the case may be less severe.

[Admin2]

The key here is testing! The U.S. now leads the world in COVID-19 cases/deaths. We have tested less than 1 percent of the U.S. population of 328 million. The 2.67 million people tested so far show 560,000 cases of COVID-19 with 22,000 deaths. Do the math and see what would happen if we dont have stringent social distancing measures in place.

Testing is the key for sure but nobody will convince me that the estimated body count went from 10,000,000 deaths to 60,000 deaths because some people stayed home.

When people say "do the math and see what happens" it seems to me that they are saying that the virus will continue to kill everybody like it did the people with underlying conditions at the beginning until there are millions and millions of dead. That's not happening in Sweden. They are taking a middle ground that regardless of how the super lefty press (I am a lifelong lefty) wants to persuade people is blowing up in their face is working really well. They are encouraging people to work from home if they can, they have limited school to two days a week, are providing all the help those in high risk groups need to self isolate but as to the rest they are trying to keep life as normal as possible.

Belgium has been in total lockdown for a month, they have 10,000,000 people in their population and they have 4,000 deaths, Sweden is taking a middle route, have 10,000,000 population and have had 1000 deaths.

This stringent social distancing along with the sever economic toll is going to have a bigger body count. 38,000 people die with each percent increase in joblessness. 10,000,000 people just lost their jobs, another 10-30,000,000 retirees just saw 40% of their retirement saving disappear, that's going to cause 200,000 deaths from poverty and homelessness.

Got to be something in the middle sir, something between nothing and burning down the economy.

Testing is the key, specifically antibody testing to start getting an idea how many asymptomatic people there are because once we do I'm betting that mortality rate drops to. 0 something percent. Once people see that then the risk groups can self isolate, and those that won't die from it can keep life going.

Just my opinion, really not trying to start a fight, really trying to get a dialog that gets people unstuck from the extremes and start looking for something that works for everybody.

A2.

[STandR]

Real mature guy. Comes off as a real POS on the forums for sure. That just proves it. I'm new here, and I hope the mongering community here has more to offer than that idiot.

This is the private mail message I just received from this little prick.

[Niteluvr]

Get caught in one of those lock down parties if you want to. You will be thrown in gen pop where covid is running rampid right now. How do I know, I saw a house party get broken up and they carried everyone one of them up out of there. Play games if you want to.

Good. I hope the popo does just that.

[Low Key69]

Get caught in one of those lock down parties if you want to. You will be thrown in gen pop where covid is running rampid right now. How do I know, I saw a house party get broken up and they carried everyone one of them up out of there. Play games if you want to.

[SeekingHead]

I'd also be interested. I never hooked up with Elizabeth in the VIP room but that cute little ass got me wondering if she's sharing it with special guests during the COVID lockdown?

Never met a stripper with good money management, & she has to eat? Somebody is paying her bills.

[TMeister]

I cannot help but think of the long-term effects this pandemic may have on the strip club economy. It's not far-fetched in my mind that the industry could die.

From a consumer perspective, it's hard to imagine strip clubs recovering faster than its consumer base's ability to replenish disposable income. Which may happen long after clubs reopen, assuming some don't collapse before they can reopen. From a talent perspective, I'd expect many will get forced out if the upside significantly shrinks due to a much smaller money pool. From an owner perspective, this also means less revenue through cover charges, taxing dancers, and alcohol sales. Do the margins become thin enough to force many of these clubs to close?

I'm likely missing something in this equation. Am I nuts here? Am I over-thinking this?

I think you're over-thinking it. The predicted death toll has already been downgraded from 200,000 to less than 40,000 nationwide, and will likely further decrease as the case numbers decline.

As far as the clubs go, I think the recovery will take until at least Christmas because once everyone goes back to work most people are facing overdue bills of all kinds. Mortage payments, rent payments, car payments, credit card payments, etc. Having fun money to spend at the strip clubs will be in short supply. Also, many employers see the cost savings of a stay-at-home workforce so the majority of them won't return to a full payroll in awhile and a decent chunk of people will remain unemployed. Plus, there is already threats of a rebound pandemic wave hitting us in the fall. So add it all up and it looks rough until December and hopefully a return to normal by early next year.

However, if there is a serious 2nd wave hitting us at the end of the year then all bets are off. Another two-month lock down would be fatal for many businesses. I'd say at least half of all clubs will close permanently if that happens.

[Sgt Soros]

This is directed at both of you. Trust me, no one here is impressed with this BS. Please behave like adults and or carry on with this BS someplace else. Thanks!

OK, I now remember clearly, you were indeed acting like an ass. However it changes nothing because it just confirms you still are a "fucking punk clown fuck" as I mentioned in the message you just posted from 5 or so years ago. It also appears you're just as clueless using the quote syntax here as you are at collating and analyzing data points. Now can we get back to what we were discussing the COVID-19 pandemic and the botched response.

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:



04-03-18 13:10#1127.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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Posts: 1782.

While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is * as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.



04-04-18 03:29#1133.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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Hopefully, I've not deleted the messages you and I exchanged from 5 years ago. I will post as soon as I find them and show the board what an a $$ you are.

[Niteluvr]

I completely agree with everything you've posted. We must as a nation focus on the three T's, testing, tracking and treatment of everyone affected.

I hope that's exactly what the government and healthcare industry are doing.

[NuGuy36]

OK, I now remember clearly, you were indeed acting like an ass. However it changes nothing because it just confirms you still are a "fucking punk clown fuck" as I mentioned in the message you just posted from 5 or so years ago. It also appears you're just as clueless using the quote syntax here as you are at collating and analyzing data points. Now can we get back to what we were discussing the COVID-19 pandemic and the botched response.

We exchanged

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:

[Aaron Hamlet]

Really? I have no clue what you're talking about

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:



04-03-18 13:10#1127.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

Senior Member.

Posts: 1782.

While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is * as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.



04-04-18 03:29#1133.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

Senior Member.

Hopefully, I've not deleted the messages you and I exchanged from 5 years ago. I will post as soon as I find them and show the board what an a $$ you are.

[Sgt Lurker]

I keep hearing people screaming for more testing but keep in mind folks, that is a numbers racket and there is an old saying, "Figures Lie and Liars Figure. " I could be tested today and be negative and come in contact with someone tomorrow and have it by Friday. But I GOT TESTED! Big Deal!

I know how to properly calculate percentages and don't have to multiply by 100. I use the % function on calculator, put in two number sets and hit enter. Works every time.

Tests are to diagnose. Good for sound bites, spread fear, but don't do much as an overall data point. Like you said, test aren't accurate one way or the other. I believe 70% accuracy is deemed acceptable. Who gets tested? Those presenting symptoms, those within a set baseline of symptoms? Those who want to get tested but aren't sick? Where are tests taking place? NY, NJ, La. , Detroit or in the middle of nowhere Idaho, Montana? The death rate from China Virus is nowhere near 4%. To date, 4% of confirmed cases may die, but the number of confirmed cases, that denominator is unknown. That's why I didn't use it as a factor. There could be 30,40, 50% of all carrying the virus and don't even know it.

[NuGuy36]

Speaking of making zero sense. You ever find those PM's you alleged I sent to you related to me doing you dirty regarding some UTR? You popped up out the woodwork a few months ago squawking at me about them. You didn't find them, did you? You know why you didn't find them, Jimmy? Because they don't exist. For some bizarre reason, you came at me with some made up shit. You 0 for 2, son.

Really? I have no clue what you're talking about but I do remember YOU from way back making threats against a bunch of hobbyists who had asked you for contact info on a few ladies you were pimping for and then not showing up. Now getting back to the topic at hand, I still maintain your stats make zero sense, if the COVID-19 tests are not widely available to the populace at large.

[Aaron Hamlet]

make zero sense.

Speaking of making zero sense. You ever find those PM's you alleged I sent to you related to me doing you dirty regarding some UTR? You popped up out the woodwork a few months ago squawking at me about them. You didn't find them, did you? You know why you didn't find them, Jimmy? Because they don't exist. For some bizarre reason, you came at me with some made up shit. You 0 for 2, son.