Rants and Raves

[SeekingHead]

I'd also be interested. I never hooked up with Elizabeth in the VIP room but that cute little ass got me wondering if she's sharing it with special guests during the COVID lockdown?

Never met a stripper with good money management, & she has to eat? Somebody is paying her bills.

[TMeister]

I cannot help but think of the long-term effects this pandemic may have on the strip club economy. It's not far-fetched in my mind that the industry could die.

From a consumer perspective, it's hard to imagine strip clubs recovering faster than its consumer base's ability to replenish disposable income. Which may happen long after clubs reopen, assuming some don't collapse before they can reopen. From a talent perspective, I'd expect many will get forced out if the upside significantly shrinks due to a much smaller money pool. From an owner perspective, this also means less revenue through cover charges, taxing dancers, and alcohol sales. Do the margins become thin enough to force many of these clubs to close?

I'm likely missing something in this equation. Am I nuts here? Am I over-thinking this?

I think you're over-thinking it. The predicted death toll has already been downgraded from 200,000 to less than 40,000 nationwide, and will likely further decrease as the case numbers decline.

As far as the clubs go, I think the recovery will take until at least Christmas because once everyone goes back to work most people are facing overdue bills of all kinds. Mortage payments, rent payments, car payments, credit card payments, etc. Having fun money to spend at the strip clubs will be in short supply. Also, many employers see the cost savings of a stay-at-home workforce so the majority of them won't return to a full payroll in awhile and a decent chunk of people will remain unemployed. Plus, there is already threats of a rebound pandemic wave hitting us in the fall. So add it all up and it looks rough until December and hopefully a return to normal by early next year.

However, if there is a serious 2nd wave hitting us at the end of the year then all bets are off. Another two-month lock down would be fatal for many businesses. I'd say at least half of all clubs will close permanently if that happens.

[Sgt Soros]

This is directed at both of you. Trust me, no one here is impressed with this BS. Please behave like adults and or carry on with this BS someplace else. Thanks!

OK, I now remember clearly, you were indeed acting like an ass. However it changes nothing because it just confirms you still are a "fucking punk clown fuck" as I mentioned in the message you just posted from 5 or so years ago. It also appears you're just as clueless using the quote syntax here as you are at collating and analyzing data points. Now can we get back to what we were discussing the COVID-19 pandemic and the botched response.

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:



04-03-18 13:10#1127.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is * as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.



04-04-18 03:29#1133.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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Hopefully, I've not deleted the messages you and I exchanged from 5 years ago. I will post as soon as I find them and show the board what an a $$ you are.

[Niteluvr]

I completely agree with everything you've posted. We must as a nation focus on the three T's, testing, tracking and treatment of everyone affected.

I hope that's exactly what the government and healthcare industry are doing.

[NuGuy36]

OK, I now remember clearly, you were indeed acting like an ass. However it changes nothing because it just confirms you still are a "fucking punk clown fuck" as I mentioned in the message you just posted from 5 or so years ago. It also appears you're just as clueless using the quote syntax here as you are at collating and analyzing data points. Now can we get back to what we were discussing the COVID-19 pandemic and the botched response.

We exchanged

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:

[Aaron Hamlet]

Really? I have no clue what you're talking about

Here you go, Jimmy. You're 0 for 3 now, son:



04-03-18 13:10#1127.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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Posts: 1782.

While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is * as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.



04-04-18 03:29#1133.

NuGuy36 NuGuy36 is offline.

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Hopefully, I've not deleted the messages you and I exchanged from 5 years ago. I will post as soon as I find them and show the board what an a $$ you are.

[Sgt Lurker]

I keep hearing people screaming for more testing but keep in mind folks, that is a numbers racket and there is an old saying, "Figures Lie and Liars Figure. " I could be tested today and be negative and come in contact with someone tomorrow and have it by Friday. But I GOT TESTED! Big Deal!

I know how to properly calculate percentages and don't have to multiply by 100. I use the % function on calculator, put in two number sets and hit enter. Works every time.

Tests are to diagnose. Good for sound bites, spread fear, but don't do much as an overall data point. Like you said, test aren't accurate one way or the other. I believe 70% accuracy is deemed acceptable. Who gets tested? Those presenting symptoms, those within a set baseline of symptoms? Those who want to get tested but aren't sick? Where are tests taking place? NY, NJ, La. , Detroit or in the middle of nowhere Idaho, Montana? The death rate from China Virus is nowhere near 4%. To date, 4% of confirmed cases may die, but the number of confirmed cases, that denominator is unknown. That's why I didn't use it as a factor. There could be 30,40, 50% of all carrying the virus and don't even know it.

[NuGuy36]

Speaking of making zero sense. You ever find those PM's you alleged I sent to you related to me doing you dirty regarding some UTR? You popped up out the woodwork a few months ago squawking at me about them. You didn't find them, did you? You know why you didn't find them, Jimmy? Because they don't exist. For some bizarre reason, you came at me with some made up shit. You 0 for 2, son.

Really? I have no clue what you're talking about but I do remember YOU from way back making threats against a bunch of hobbyists who had asked you for contact info on a few ladies you were pimping for and then not showing up. Now getting back to the topic at hand, I still maintain your stats make zero sense, if the COVID-19 tests are not widely available to the populace at large.

[Aaron Hamlet]

make zero sense.

Speaking of making zero sense. You ever find those PM's you alleged I sent to you related to me doing you dirty regarding some UTR? You popped up out the woodwork a few months ago squawking at me about them. You didn't find them, did you? You know why you didn't find them, Jimmy? Because they don't exist. For some bizarre reason, you came at me with some made up shit. You 0 for 2, son.

[NuGuy36]

If less than 1 percent of the USA Populace has been tested, your data crunching based on the sum total of the US population make zero sense.

I know how to properly calculate percentages and don't have to multiply by 100. I use the % function on calculator, put in two number sets and hit enter. Works every time.

Tests are to diagnose. Good for sound bites, spread fear, but don't do much as an overall data point. Like you said, test aren't accurate one way or the other. I believe 70% accuracy is deemed acceptable. Who gets tested? Those presenting symptoms, those within a set baseline of symptoms? Those who want to get tested but aren't sick? Where are tests taking place? NY, NJ, La. , Detroit or in the middle of nowhere Idaho, Montana? The death rate from China Virus is nowhere near 4%. To date, 4% of confirmed cases may die, but the number of confirmed cases, that denominator is unknown. That's why I didn't use it as a factor. There could be 30,40, 50% of all carrying the virus and don't even know it.

Of course, 'don't catch it. ' If you're over 60 and / or obese, diabetic, pre-diabetic, cancer, you need to be careful. Still not death sentence. If you're under 60 and healthy, do what you want. Georgia has had 20 deaths from China virus in those under 60 and healthy. Horrible thing, but 20 out of approx. 9 million isn't a high risk. I'd bet much more die from suicide, murder, car wrecks, accidents, O. D. 's.

Asymptomatic individuals passing the virus to others is a concern if those it's passed to are 60+ and / or bad sick to start with. Even then not a death sentence. Healthy asymptomatic young people passing the virus to other healthy people isn't much of a concern. It's actually a good thing. Healthy person has virus, their body beats it, then they pass along a weakened version of virus. That person beats it, they pass along an even weakened version onto the next, then onto the next and the next and the next. That's how virus' disappear. The healthy among us, those not targeted, defeat them. That's why all humans haven't been killed by previous pandemics. Not yet at least.

Sweden has taken the approach above of letting the young and healthy kill/minimize the virus.Had the sick and elderly shelter, closed universities, but left grade schools open. Businesses, bars, restaurants function as usual. The govt. suggests you don't go out, but at the same time tell Swedes to do what they want. They've had a slightly higher per capita death rate than US, but nowhere near the economic catastrophe.

[Aaron Hamlet]

For example:

I know how to properly calculate percentages and don't have to multiply by 100. I use the % function on calculator, put in two number sets and hit enter. Works every time.

Tests are to diagnose. Good for sound bites, spread fear, but don't do much as an overall data point. Like you said, test aren't accurate one way or the other. I believe 70% accuracy is deemed acceptable. Who gets tested? Those presenting symptoms, those within a set baseline of symptoms? Those who want to get tested but aren't sick? Where are tests taking place? NY, NJ, La. , Detroit or in the middle of nowhere Idaho, Montana? The death rate from China Virus is nowhere near 4%. To date, 4% of confirmed cases may die, but the number of confirmed cases, that denominator is unknown. That's why I didn't use it as a factor. There could be 30,40, 50% of all carrying the virus and don't even know it.

Of course, 'don't catch it. ' If you're over 60 and / or obese, diabetic, pre-diabetic, cancer, you need to be careful. Still not death sentence. If you're under 60 and healthy, do what you want. Georgia has had 20 deaths from China virus in those under 60 and healthy. Horrible thing, but 20 out of approx. 9 million isn't a high risk. I'd bet much more die from suicide, murder, car wrecks, accidents, O. D. 's.

Asymptomatic individuals passing the virus to others is a concern if those it's passed to are 60+ and / or bad sick to start with. Even then not a death sentence. Healthy asymptomatic young people passing the virus to other healthy people isn't much of a concern. It's actually a good thing. Healthy person has virus, their body beats it, then they pass along a weakened version of virus. That person beats it, they pass along an even weakened version onto the next, then onto the next and the next and the next. That's how virus' disappear. The healthy among us, those not targeted, defeat them. That's why all humans weren't killed by previous pandemics.

Sweden has taken the approach above of letting the young and healthy kill/minimize the virus.Had the sick and elderly shelter, closed universities, but left grade schools open. Businesses, bars, restaurants function as usual. The govt. suggests you don't go out, but at the same time tell Swedes to do what they want. They've had a slightly higher per capita death rate than US, but nowhere near the economic catastrophe.

[NuGuy36]

This is all talk, until you have to bury a loved family member that died from this virus. We have no immunity. We have no long term statistics on the effect post infection. We don't know if getting it and recovering makes one immune. Evidence out of China & Korea suggests otherwise.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-re...positive-again

Yes these maybe asymptomatic or mild, but think about that. That means that any vaccine currently being developed will most likely not be effective.

Everyone is so quick to point to stats. Okay here is a few.

Annual influenza kills on average of 36,000 Americans a year (a YEAR). For a death rate of. 1%.

"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that flu-associated deaths in the US ranged from about 3000 to 49,000 annually between 1976 and 2006. The CDC notes that the often-cited figure of 36,000 annual flu-related deaths was derived from years when the predominant virus subtype was H3 N2, which tends to be more lethal than H1 N1. ".

This diease has killed a reported 20,000+ in 2 months. Understand that is reported. Because we have a much better monitoring / reporting system for seasonal flu, deaths from that are general well documented. Deaths from this diease are way under report as many corpses have not been check to see if Covid was the cause or a contributing factor. Either way, the medical community admits to under reporting it.

So let's say we are low side of the casualty count of 60,000 death. That makes this at least 2 x more deadly. And we have yet to see what it does to the a lot of the country.

As note by everyone. Social Distancing is the only reason that the number are lower, and the curve is flattening out. But like the 1918 Spanish Flu, most of the deaths were the following years in 1919 and 1920. Yes it took 3 years before it died down, and we had some actually immunity to it to begin with.

https://www.history.com/news/spanish...ave-resurgence

Guess what, we go back to our pre pandemic ways and round 2 will be a lot fucking worse. And yes there will be a round 2.

So go ahead a ***** about the economy, bemoan the fact that our past time is impacted. But don't think for a second that you can't be the cause of death for your parent, aunt, spouse, or other family member.

I completely agree with everything you've posted. We must as a nation focus on the three T's, testing, tracking and treatment of everyone affected.

[HobbyMan51]

Zero talk. All data. Hard facts. All you did was talk though. US news and world reports? History channel?* We have no immunity? Where's your data? You privy to the results obtained from antibodies testing done on a massive scale? What percent of population has / had virus but didn't / don't know it or suffered from only mild symptoms? 30,40, 50%? We were all on top of one another as virus spread like wildfire. Your data for that? Second wave, Round 2,3,4 going to be worse? Where's your data, Dr. ? Spanish flu from 100 years ago? What effect did the massive global troop movements during WW I have on Spanish Flu second wave? Your data on that? 'Everyone' says social distancing is the only reason numbers are lower? Your data, hard facts on that? You have none. Zero. You spout unsubstantiated bullshit.

0. 00677093% of all Americans have died from China virus. Fact. Hard data. A2 wrote you could pack 100,000 China Virus+ (40) year olds and younger into a stadium and only two would die. Fact. Hard data.

Don't talk to me about burying my family, motherfucker. You one dumb motherfucker. That's not talk. That's a fact. Hard data derived from your meaningless rambling bullshit.

Amen, Aaron. He also conveniently forgot to add that social distancing was already built into the doomsday scenario numbers Fauci and Birks were feeding us. You know, 100 k, 150 k 200 k, 2 million, blah blah blah, were going to die if we didn't practice distancing? Well, the numbers are going to come in far below their "expert" estimates, much to their disappointment. A2 is right. You are right.? Not so much.

[Game Cock Too]

Current US death rates from China Virus:

0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.

NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.

Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.

State of Georgia stats from yesterday:

0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.

0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.

0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.

I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.

Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.

These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.

For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.

Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.

For example:

For the USA, 22,858 (deaths) divided by 564,398 (confirmed cases) = 0. 0404. Then multiply by 100 will give you 4. 04% death rate in the USA. . 0404% is vastly different from 4. 04%. A 4. 04% death rate is still pretty low, BUT who knows if you're going to be that person / victim that falls into that 4%. So, 0. 33% of Georgians have the virus. Of the 13,315 confirmed cases in Georgia, 3. 4% have died (464 deaths). Bottom line, DON'T CATCH IT! I have 3 friends that have had it. One was hospitalized and recovered, one was in bed at home and thought it was the flu, and one had mild symptoms.

The scary thing about this virus is that there is no vaccine to prevent you from catching it, and even if there WAS a vaccine, all vaccine are not 100% efficacious, even for the flu. Also, there are no proven medications available to cure the afflicted. It all comes down to how well YOUR body fights the virus. Without testing, asymptomatic individual will continue to spread the virus.

Additionally, all testing is not accurate. A good test requires accurate "sensitivity and specificity". sensitivity is like your radar detector going off, even though you don't see a cop around. It's the ability to pick up a signal or sign (disease). Specificity is actually seeing that police car hidden in the woods, or correctly saying that you DO have the disease. Low sensitivity on a medical test would miss the disease and low specificity wouldn't be able to tell what disease you had (a cold? Regular flu? Coronavirus?

[Sgt Lurker]

If people would realize the total truth is probably somewhere between the people who are fear-mongering and want to sell out their freedom for a 'perception of safety' and those who say we should pretend the COVID-19 either does not exist or is not lethal to some people. I could just as easily inadvertently kill my mother by having caught the flu but not yet having any symptoms and taking it to her and 200 of her fellow assisted living neighbors. For her, the flu could be deadly also.

However, we have gone way overboard where some places are ticking people for walking on the sidewalk or riding their motorcycle because they are deemed 'non-essential. " A TV commentator he can board his dog due to travel but the kennel cannot trim the dog's nails because the Governor deemed it non-essential. Kentucky governor threatened anyone whose car was on any church property on Easter would have their entire household issued a mandatory quarantine order by the health department.

The pendulum has swung way too far for this virus when, as stated by A2, in the big scheme, it will not prove as deadly as the so-called experts (all sides of the political coin) are calling for.

We (the majority of people) have surrendered using their own common sense and become subjugated to the government when it was intended to be the other way around. One of the things I refused to do whenever I was in a leadership position in the Army and had the situation was to not punish the masses for the guilt or stupidity of the one or few. The guilty were punished, not everyone.

Zero talk. All data. Hard facts. All you did was talk though. US news and world reports? History channel?* We have no immunity? Where's your data? You privy to the results obtained from antibodies testing done on a massive scale? What percent of population has / had virus but didn't / don't know it or suffered from only mild symptoms? 30,40, 50%? We were all on top of one another as virus spread like wildfire. Your data for that? Second wave, Round 2,3,4 going to be worse? Where's your data, Dr. ? Spanish flu from 100 years ago? What effect did the massive global troop movements during WW I have on Spanish Flu second wave? Your data on that? 'Everyone' says social distancing is the only reason numbers are lower? Your data, hard facts on that? You have none. Zero. You spout unsubstantiated bullshit.

0. 00677093% of all Americans have died from China virus. Fact. Hard data. A2 wrote you could pack 100,000 China Virus+ (40) year olds and younger into a stadium and only two would die. Fact. Hard data.