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  1. #1743

    Those sites are scams

    Quote Originally Posted by Iman2765  [View Original Post]
    So, I had / have signed up the above website as a non-paying member and find it oddly comical that I get thousand of women interested in meeting me ASAP, of course I cannot respond as I am a non paying member and I am sure that 95% of then be fake if I were to be able to respond. I get at least 7-8 emails a day from theses girls. LOL.
    All responses are computer generated responses fake & automated.

  2. #1742

    The real issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Spill  [View Original Post]
    This has been debated here hundreds of times. It really isn't that simple.
    I agree, we can't have a blanket policy. However, we can all be cognizant of the difference between GPS and actual quality. If a woman is attractive, energetic, seems to have a pleasant personality, isn't blowing up your cell a week later, doesn't have track marks (at least not obviously) and enjoys and and is into the sex, well, they MIGHT be worth paying extra. The real issue is that in places like Maine, where there is little action, the mediocre can demand outrageous rates, if they look good. They can lack every other quality, but when we don't think with our big head, we are the ones getting screwed.

    So, lets not overpay for average, that's a simple policy.

  3. #1741
    Senior Member


    Posts: 621

    Controlling the rates

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlLovr69  [View Original Post]
    Lets all not overanalyze, it's pretty simple. If we pay the higher price, they can, and will charge whatever we are willing to pay. If they don't get clients paying the bigger money they won't charge it. Lets not price ourselves out of the hobby. JMHO.
    This has been debated here hundreds of times. It really isn't that simple.

  4. #1740

    Last days of K603 ?

    Had a visit this noon with K603, had a great time, she was not just willing, but wanted to try a new sex position I had seen on a video (prone bone, wow, I didn't want to change after I got into it, enjoyed by us both) I am not going to say this is the guaranteed last chance, but, K603 is moving out on Thursday, and hasn't found a local apartment yet. So, she will be unavailable while she lives in NH with her brother. Will she be back? , who knows, hopefully an apartment will become available soon, and she can set up shop locally again. She does need cash for rent and deposits, so is looking for visits from regulars, and senior members here. For those who have seen her, no explanation is needed, but for those who haven't, she is slim, 50, enjoys sex, and has pictures a week or so ago on this forum.

  5. #1739

    Price of services rendered

    Lets all not overanalyze, it's pretty simple. If we pay the higher price, they can, and will charge whatever we are willing to pay. If they don't get clients paying the bigger money they won't charge it. Lets not price ourselves out of the hobby. JMHO.

  6. #1738
    Quote Originally Posted by Iman2765  [View Original Post]
    Loosing one client going from 150 to 250 is a loss no matter how you look at it, she will have to see take (2) regular clients to make an extra 50 overall
    C'Mon. People. In this business if the girl is raising her rates and calls your bluff and flat out rejects the old rate, she IS getting her new rate; just not with you. If the new rate is out of your budget or just not worth it, then time to move on.

    I remember seeing someone from the CL days who started off cheap (100-150 ish back in the day) and once they learned more about the business, became a high end type who traveled to different cities at $500/ hour type rates. I certainly had no expectations she would still see me at the old rate.

  7. #1737
    Quote Originally Posted by DigNickBigger  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to butt in but I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. These girls are working human beings and not a golf course. They're a working class, not the investor class. As such, nobody wants to work more for less money vs work less for more money. If she has the option of fucking 5 guys for $500 vs 2 guys for $500, the latter will always be the smarter option. It's not just about money that increasing their rate will do but it's also about their personal care, leisure time and mental health. By increasing her rate, she maintains her quality service longer before she burns out. In the long term, she will actually make much more money if she is not forced to retire early due all the consequences of being a cheap provider.
    Its human nature, we like to do less work for more money. I'm not her financial advisor and she's entitled to do as she pleases but for these high rates I would expect a much better venue for the event. I wouldn't consider her place a dump or in a bad neighborhood but its definitely not anywhere near upscale enough to command such a high price. Add in the fact that she doesn't offer CG, RCG or greek and her new rates become laughable. If she doesn't honor her original rates for existing customers then I'll move along.

  8. #1736
    Senior Member


    Posts: 787

    Both Right

    Quote Originally Posted by DigNickBigger  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to butt in but I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. These girls are working human beings and not a golf course. They're a working class, not the investor class. As such, nobody wants to work more for less money vs work less for more money. If she has the option of fucking 5 guys for $500 vs 2 guys for $500, the latter will always be the smarter option. It's not just about money that increasing their rate will do but it's also about their personal care, leisure time and mental health. By increasing her rate, she maintains her quality service longer before she burns out. In the long term, she will actually make much more money if she is not forced to retire early due all the consequences of being a cheap provider.
    I think you're both right, but it also depends on the lady herself, first of all. There are some providers who might have 5 regulars a week at a dirt-cheap rate, and if they up the requested donation by $10, all 5 will stop dropping by. On the other hand, there are some providers who could ask for 2. 5 for a half-hour visit and still have more clients than she wants or needs. So there is no question that Alicia is a top-notch provider in many respects, I think most fellas who see her would agree. Not to shill for her, but she offers a wardrobe of lingerie, and porn, and she's not too much of a clock-watcher (although the higher her donation, the more likely she is to become a clock-watcher, of course).

    Another factor is the location: In downtown Boston Alicia would be able to develop more regular clients than in Fitchburg. Fitchburg is not surrounded by too many upper middle class towns and cities, so anyone who wants to see her during the day has to take a long lunch or take time off from his job.

    The last factor is, how much extra "pin money" does she want to earn? If she's find asking for a 2. 5 donation and she sees just 4 or 5 clients a week, that might be more than enough for her needs and wants. It makes little sense (no disrespect intended to anybody) to talk about what makes economic sense for her without talking about her economic objectives.

    All this said, 2. 5 is by any measure a huge sum for a provider based out of Fitchburg. Even though Alicia is easily in the top 5% of all providers who have ever been based out of the 'Burg, it's pretty clear that she's content these days to see, as a guesstimate, maybe 1 or 2 guys a day at most. If that. It might not be me and it might not be you, but someone who's spent time with her before is going to feel that her company and her skills are worth overpaying a little.

    Just my 2 cents.

  9. #1735

    What are you saying? They are "fake"woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Its all a tease. The ladies initiate the conversation, you pay credits to respond, and then silence. Not worth the price.
    No, you must be wrong, I see those photos, and how can we not believe that the most beautiful woman in the world (all) live within 4 miles of our homes? They wouldn't intentionally try and scam us, would they? Like most of us, I have signed up, but never paid, and just don't see how the scam can continue to work for so long. I guess a "sucker is born every minute".

  10. #1734

    Never Had even a hint of meeting.

    Its all a tease. The ladies initiate the conversation, you pay credits to respond, and then silence. Not worth the price.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iman2765  [View Original Post]
    So, I had / have signed up the above website as a non-paying member and find it oddly comical that I get thousand of women interested in meeting me ASAP, of course I cannot respond as I am a non paying member and I am sure that 95% of then be fake if I were to be able to respond. I get at least 7-8 emails a day from theses girls. LOL.

  11. #1733

    Secret Benefits, Ashley Madison, Cheating Wives and similar

    So, I had / have signed up the above website as a non-paying member and find it oddly comical that I get thousand of women interested in meeting me ASAP, of course I cannot respond as I am a non paying member and I am sure that 95% of then be fake if I were to be able to respond. I get at least 7-8 emails a day from theses girls. LOL.

  12. #1732

    Costs

    I sort of agree with your analogy but I hope she doesn't price herself out of my market, I have limited fund and ponying up 2. 5 for hh is bit much.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigNickBigger  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to butt in but I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. These girls are working human beings and not a golf course. They're a working class, not the investor class. As such, nobody wants to work more for less money vs work less for more money. If she has the option of fucking 5 guys for $500 vs 2 guys for $500, the latter will always be the smarter option. It's not just about money that increasing their rate will do but it's also about their personal care, leisure time and mental health. By increasing her rate, she maintains her quality service longer before she burns out. In the long term, she will actually make much more money if she is not forced to retire early due all the consequences of being a cheap provider.

  13. #1731
    Quote Originally Posted by Iman2765  [View Original Post]
    I saw her three or so weeks ago and she was talking about that. I told her that if she did implement those rates she would loose me as a client as I would not be able to afford her. I understand why she's doing it, at least for the tyist site, all the prices are rather steep. Some of the girls possible would be worth it but a most are not IMO. Leigh who I posted about last week is also advertising higher rates than what we mutually agreed prior to meeting. I have always had the opinion that raise cost won't necessarily increase income. Loosing one client going from 150 to 250 is a loss no matter how you look at it, she will have to see take (2) regular clients to make an extra 50 overall
    So based on all the discussion I'm guessing she is not grandfathering in regulars to her original rates? I've reached out to her the past few days and haven't heard back from her.

  14. #1730

    Labor economic

    Quote Originally Posted by Iman2765  [View Original Post]
    Hey Deller, no issue with respect, I'm always up for a discussion. If you increase cost what make you think you'll increase the amount of clients? Here is an example of increase in cost could lower revenue, this is based on a real life example, Let say membership at a golf course that has 1400 members and membership are $750.00, annual revenue $1,050,000 and there are just making the by, so the thought is to raise the member ship the following year by lets say $75.00 to $ 825.00 and due the price increase the membership goes to 1250 members, now your annual revenue $1,031,250 a lost of $ 19 K, so the following year the cost goes up $100 to $925.00 but you only get 1100 members, annul revenue $925,000. 00 another loss of $106 K. I know it is not quite the same business but it does demonstrates that increase cost does not necessarily guaranty increased income.
    Sorry to butt in but I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. These girls are working human beings and not a golf course. They're a working class, not the investor class. As such, nobody wants to work more for less money vs work less for more money. If she has the option of fucking 5 guys for $500 vs 2 guys for $500, the latter will always be the smarter option. It's not just about money that increasing their rate will do but it's also about their personal care, leisure time and mental health. By increasing her rate, she maintains her quality service longer before she burns out. In the long term, she will actually make much more money if she is not forced to retire early due all the consequences of being a cheap provider.

  15. #1729

    Increase

    Hey Deller, no issue with respect, I'm always up for a discussion. If you increase cost what make you think you'll increase the amount of clients? Here is an example of increase in cost could lower revenue, this is based on a real life example, Let say membership at a golf course that has 1400 members and membership are $750.00, annual revenue $1,050,000 and there are just making the by, so the thought is to raise the member ship the following year by lets say $75.00 to $ 825.00 and due the price increase the membership goes to 1250 members, now your annual revenue $1,031,250 a lost of $ 19 K, so the following year the cost goes up $100 to $925.00 but you only get 1100 members, annul revenue $925,000. 00 another loss of $106 K. I know it is not quite the same business but it does demonstrates that increase cost does not necessarily guaranty increased income.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDeller  [View Original Post]
    Iman,

    With all due respect and not to belabor the issue, I am not sure I understand your reasoning. If a provider loses a regular client at 150 due to hike in rates and gains another regular client at 250 she is up 100 each session. Nobody knows when a regular client will disappear or a new regular will appear. Providers will figure out pretty quickly if they have over reached due to a sharp decrease in "sales. " Same thing in any other business.

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