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  1. #1189
    Quote Originally Posted by Timexpired  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't ask too much on the site as I'm sure they monitor for professional girls. I usually just mentioned up front that I'm interested in a ppm (pay per meet) arrangement. If they're interested in that, then it usually generates a phone #.
    And also do not ever pay for a introductory meet (coffee, lunch etc). It seems to be pretty prevelant, which means somebody is falling for it. I always answer that I will treat them to whatever they would like to eat (pay the bill) but I'm not going to pay to talk, unless it's my shrink LOL.

  2. #1188
    Quote Originally Posted by Rkol7  [View Original Post]
    Forgive my ignorance: I've been out of the hobby for several years, but recently signed up at SA. Is it safe to ask, more or less, "how much?" and "what's included?" on the site itself? Do guys typically wait to ask those questions until the conversation has shifted to phone texting? Thanks, and I will post about future SA experiences.
    I wouldn't ask too much on the site as I'm sure they monitor for professional girls. I usually just mentioned up front that I'm interested in a ppm (pay per meet) arrangement. If they're interested in that, then it usually generates a phone #.

  3. #1187

    SA: question

    Forgive my ignorance: I've been out of the hobby for several years, but recently signed up at SA. Is it safe to ask, more or less, "how much?" and "what's included?" on the site itself? Do guys typically wait to ask those questions until the conversation has shifted to phone texting? Thanks, and I will post about future SA experiences.

  4. #1186

    Gloria

    Quote Originally Posted by LowEndPlayer  [View Original Post]
    I saw her twice during her last swing through Chicago. You won't be disappointed.
    Can you PM me about services / damage? I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

  5. #1185
    Quote Originally Posted by Kbear6577  [View Original Post]
    I replied to someones quote yesterday but for some reason it ended up over in Micky's Boxing Club thread? Anyways I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.
    I feel your pain man. Text, called, SC, IG. Nothing.

  6. #1184
    Anyone else had dealings with this service. I sent the contact info over email. Then had to follow up several days later because I received no response. I was specific in the email / contact info of my wants and scheduling. Anyway, got response when I followed up via text. Had to provide a reference. Did so. They never checked it, according to my reference. Then today get a text and asked what time today are you stopping by. Ummm, I told them I need to "schedule" or plan ahead. I can't just drop everything and drive to Philly. After that text, no response. Jude's they don't plan ahead. Or my reply gave them cold feet. They also wouldn't discuss rates / donations.

    Just trying to see if I'm being difficult or if it is just the way they are. Can anyone else provide any insight?

    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Funningunnin  [View Original Post]
    Had a great visit with Mio at ephillym.com. She is the one in the pics. All natural, although it's hard to imagine any woman being so perfectly shaped. Activities were sheer bliss. She is one not to be missed.

  7. #1183

    Savannah

    I replied to someones quote yesterday but for some reason it ended up over in Micky's Boxing Club thread? Anyways I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.

  8. #1182

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    One of the few guys I've seen that understands you talk to them like they are SB's but understands they are hookers and you're a john.

    Breath of fresh air.

    Thanks,

    A2.
    Thanks for the advice. I'll ride this month out and see what it yields.

  9. #1181
    Administrator


    Posts: 5131

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Frasier69  [View Original Post]
    I think you're using SA the wrong way. You have to seek out the women you want to establish an arrangement with. Nearly all of the women that contact you directly are providers. If you're willing to put in the work and are looking for UTR regulars then your efforts will be rewarded. Unfortunately there's more to weed out nowadays because CL and BP are gone. It's best to contact new members since they don't know what to expect about such an arrangement. Those that have a long standing membership are typically looking for the big fish, those willing to dump more money than they should per meetup or for an ongoing arrangement.

    To avoid a lot of pointless chatter you need to keep your first message short and to the point. I typically ask them to reply back to a direct email along with sending a few photos. If they follow through with that my reply is very direct and to the point. You're better off discussing an ongoing arrangement meeting 1-2 x every week with $X allowance. I do that because most will take less because it's an ongoing arrangement. Then after you meet them once you can state you changed you're mind and offer a per meetup rate based on the ongoing rate. Example: $1000 a month to meet 2 x every week would be $125 allowance per meetup. If the person you see is UTR then you have leverage on rate since they'd much rather see someone they've already been with since they're not into see a lot of different men. Likewise they'll hit you up when they're in need of assistance in the future. If done right you'll end up with a nice black book of UTR women that you can contact for a meetup at any time without breaking the bank. But make no mistake, you'll have to put in the work to get those results.
    One of the few guys I've seen that understands you talk to them like they are SB's but understands they are hookers and you're a john.

    Breath of fresh air.

    Thanks,

    A2.

  10. #1180
    Quote Originally Posted by JTerry26  [View Original Post]
    2 weeks in to paid version of Seeking Arrangment and I have to say the site is garbage. You get "interest" from all over the world. Despite filling out a form saying you're. "Man" seeking a "woman", some of those women were born with and still have a dick. The rest is pointless chatter or unreasonable expectations like "luxury lifestyle" and "international travel". Better the more transactional provider. Pay. Fuck. Move on.

    Glad I tried it but save your $90. Not worth it.
    I think you're using SA the wrong way. You have to seek out the women you want to establish an arrangement with. Nearly all of the women that contact you directly are providers. If you're willing to put in the work and are looking for UTR regulars then your efforts will be rewarded. Unfortunately there's more to weed out nowadays because CL and BP are gone. It's best to contact new members since they don't know what to expect about such an arrangement. Those that have a long standing membership are typically looking for the big fish, those willing to dump more money than they should per meetup or for an ongoing arrangement.

    To avoid a lot of pointless chatter you need to keep your first message short and to the point. I typically ask them to reply back to a direct email along with sending a few photos. If they follow through with that my reply is very direct and to the point. You're better off discussing an ongoing arrangement meeting 1-2 x every week with $X allowance. I do that because most will take less because it's an ongoing arrangement. Then after you meet them once you can state you changed you're mind and offer a per meetup rate based on the ongoing rate. Example: $1000 a month to meet 2 x every week would be $125 allowance per meetup. If the person you see is UTR then you have leverage on rate since they'd much rather see someone they've already been with since they're not into see a lot of different men. Likewise they'll hit you up when they're in need of assistance in the future. If done right you'll end up with a nice black book of UTR women that you can contact for a meetup at any time without breaking the bank. But make no mistake, you'll have to put in the work to get those results.

  11. #1179
    Quote Originally Posted by LikeMFlat  [View Original Post]
    It's not for everyone, you have to put in a little time. Although it doesn't have to be a ridiculous amount of time once you get the hang of it. I had something of a mentor on this site, who helped me navigate SA. He described it as the special forces of mongering. It's challenging but offers great rewards. A few quick tips if you want to try again:

    You need to be proactive and message the girls you're interested in. I've had very few arrangements with girls who contacted me first. And yes, when you first sign up you will get lots of scammy messages from girls in Thailand and elsewhere in the world. One way to prevent all this is to keep your profile hidden from search. It's an option for premium members. If you do that, the only people who see your profile are ones you favorite or ones you message. The downside to this is that some girls do it as well. Of the very few girls who contacted me first, two were pretty amazing. But it's a way to be more selective and also more discreet, so I often keep my profile hidden. The scammers tend to gravitate towards new members, so it does get better over time.

    I treat SA like any other dating site. If a girl replies to my initial message, I try to get her number within a few more messages back and forth. If I can't, I move on. She's probably either not serious or not interested. If a girl asks for money up front, or money for a platonic meet and greet, I say no thanks and move on.

    You'll need photos if you're going for the college girls and not the pros on the site. Most 'real' girls aren't going to meet someone without knowing what they look like. You don't have to be a model, although being somewhat in shape and well-groomed definitely helps. I usually have a public photo with my face cropped or blurred. Then some private photos that do show my face. Just 2-3 photos is fine. Obviously, make sure they're photos you don't use anywhere else like on social media. Some of the girls know our tricks of using a reverse image search, and you don't want them finding your real name.

    At this point I only message college students. It tends to weed out the drug addicts and the hardened pros. There are some pros on SA, who migrated after BP went down. Of course if that's what you want, there are plenty of them and they should be willing to get right to the point. I pretty much ignore the tags, they're meaningless. Some girls choose luxury lifestyle and then when I ask them their favorite restaurant for our first date, they say Applebees. So take everything they say with a grain of salt.

    After getting her number, I try to get her to meet for coffee, lunch or drinks within a week. Again, if she won't meet up within a week, it's unlikely it'll ever happen. I'll move on, although in a few cases I have met up with girls after a few weeks or even a few months. They may have found another arrangement but when it doesn't work out or turns out to be short-term, she'll text again. When we meet up I treat it like a date. She's a normal woman or college student and, regardless of the reality, the girls on SA definitely don't see themselves as escorts. So you'll need to dress nicely, make good conversation, be funny and charming, just like on any other date. Then at the end if things go well, I usually mention an allowance. Depending on the girl I'll often offer 250-300 each time. I try not to speak explicitly but I mention that when we meet, we'll have dinner and then go back to my place (or a hotel). I've had lower allowances, but that was in a different part of the country. Here in Philly, I doubt you'll find a caucasian college girl who would be happy with less than 200.

    The reason I start at 250 is because I know a LOT of guys on SA offer 200. It's something of a default lower-end offer. I only meet with girls I'm very interested in, so if I want to make sure it happens, I raise my offer just enough to make it sound like more.

    When I was in the midwest, I saw one girl for 150 and after the first time, she said she'd be happy to meet for 80. I've also dated a few girls I met on SA for free, including a 25-year-old amateur model and a 20-year-old with daddy issues.

    For a while I was on SA constantly, and I lost track of how many girls I met there. Almost all of them were legit college students, 18-24, who were intelligent and fun. In my previous city I had something of a mentor from this forum, he described SA as the special forces of mongering.

    Right now I see a 21 year-old 5'10" college student who's signed with a modeling agency in NYC. She's funny and mature for her age. She gets 300 per meet, which usually involves dinner and often spending the night. And I'm seeing another student for free. We met and initially agreed on 300 per meet. She's beautiful and the sex was great, but her body type wasn't perfect for me, she's a tiny bit curvier than I like. I stopped seeing her, but she kept asking to see me so I told her I couldn't do the allowance anymore. She was fine with that so now we're meeting every few weeks for free.

    I don't work for SA and I honestly hate the way it's run. But it can be a gold mine if you have the time to put in. Over the past few years, I haven't found any escorts who I'm remotely interested in, other than perhaps some high-end girls charging 4-500 or more for an hour. I'd rather get an entire evening or maybe even overnight with a cute, drug-free college girl for 2-300.

    I haven't been active lately but I'd love to see the Philly sugar forum become active, so I'll post some intel there if I can find any girls who are still active.
    Awesome post! . I have met a college girl for 150, another for 200. Both are on a pay per meet arrangement and are low maintenance. Many ask for 300 and I tell them I can do 150, or 200 depending especially if I have to get a room. They have been agreeable. The one girl I see tells me the Temple university area is a hot bed for the site. My meets have been in the burbs however. I have gotten many requests from that area of and. Philly though, just haven't had the time to juggle them.

    You definitely have to do some work, but a little patience and it will pay off. Everyone there is looking for the same thing.

  12. #1178
    Quote Originally Posted by JTerry26  [View Original Post]
    2 weeks in to paid version of Seeking Arrangment and I have to say the site is garbage. You get "interest" from all over the world. Despite filling out a form saying you're. "Man" seeking a "woman", some of those women were born with and still have a dick. The rest is pointless chatter or unreasonable expectations like "luxury lifestyle" and "international travel". Better the more transactional provider. Pay. Fuck. Move on.

    Glad I tried it but save your $90. Not worth it.
    It's not for everyone, you have to put in a little time. Although it doesn't have to be a ridiculous amount of time once you get the hang of it. I had something of a mentor on this site, who helped me navigate SA. He described it as the special forces of mongering. It's challenging but offers great rewards. A few quick tips if you want to try again:

    You need to be proactive and message the girls you're interested in. I've had very few arrangements with girls who contacted me first. And yes, when you first sign up you will get lots of scammy messages from girls in Thailand and elsewhere in the world. One way to prevent all this is to keep your profile hidden from search. It's an option for premium members. If you do that, the only people who see your profile are ones you favorite or ones you message. The downside to this is that some girls do it as well. Of the very few girls who contacted me first, two were pretty amazing. But it's a way to be more selective and also more discreet, so I often keep my profile hidden. The scammers tend to gravitate towards new members, so it does get better over time.

    I treat SA like any other dating site. If a girl replies to my initial message, I try to get her number within a few more messages back and forth. If I can't, I move on. She's probably either not serious or not interested. If a girl asks for money up front, or money for a platonic meet and greet, I say no thanks and move on.

    You'll need photos if you're going for the college girls and not the pros on the site. Most 'real' girls aren't going to meet someone without knowing what they look like. You don't have to be a model, although being somewhat in shape and well-groomed definitely helps. I usually have a public photo with my face cropped or blurred. Then some private photos that do show my face. Just 2-3 photos is fine. Obviously, make sure they're photos you don't use anywhere else like on social media. Some of the girls know our tricks of using a reverse image search, and you don't want them finding your real name.

    At this point I only message college students. It tends to weed out the drug addicts and the hardened pros. There are some pros on SA, who migrated after BP went down. Of course if that's what you want, there are plenty of them and they should be willing to get right to the point. I pretty much ignore the tags, they're meaningless. Some girls choose luxury lifestyle and then when I ask them their favorite restaurant for our first date, they say Applebees. So take everything they say with a grain of salt.

    After getting her number, I try to get her to meet for coffee, lunch or drinks within a week. Again, if she won't meet up within a week, it's unlikely it'll ever happen. I'll move on, although in a few cases I have met up with girls after a few weeks or even a few months. They may have found another arrangement but when it doesn't work out or turns out to be short-term, she'll text again. When we meet up I treat it like a date. She's a normal woman or college student and, regardless of the reality, the girls on SA definitely don't see themselves as escorts. So you'll need to dress nicely, make good conversation, be funny and charming, just like on any other date. Then at the end if things go well, I usually mention an allowance. Depending on the girl I'll often offer 250-300 each time. I try not to speak explicitly but I mention that when we meet, we'll have dinner and then go back to my place (or a hotel). I've had lower allowances, but that was in a different part of the country. Here in Philly, I doubt you'll find a caucasian college girl who would be happy with less than 200.

    The reason I start at 250 is because I know a LOT of guys on SA offer 200. It's something of a default lower-end offer. I only meet with girls I'm very interested in, so if I want to make sure it happens, I raise my offer just enough to make it sound like more.

    When I was in the midwest, I saw one girl for 150 and after the first time, she said she'd be happy to meet for 80. I've also dated a few girls I met on SA for free, including a 25-year-old amateur model and a 20-year-old with daddy issues.

    For a while I was on SA constantly, and I lost track of how many girls I met there. Almost all of them were legit college students, 18-24, who were intelligent and fun. In my previous city I had something of a mentor from this forum, he described SA as the special forces of mongering.

    Right now I see a 21 year-old 5'10" college student who's signed with a modeling agency in NYC. She's funny and mature for her age. She gets 300 per meet, which usually involves dinner and often spending the night. And I'm seeing another student for free. We met and initially agreed on 300 per meet. She's beautiful and the sex was great, but her body type wasn't perfect for me, she's a tiny bit curvier than I like. I stopped seeing her, but she kept asking to see me so I told her I couldn't do the allowance anymore. She was fine with that so now we're meeting every few weeks for free.

    I don't work for SA and I honestly hate the way it's run. But it can be a gold mine if you have the time to put in. Over the past few years, I haven't found any escorts who I'm remotely interested in, other than perhaps some high-end girls charging 4-500 or more for an hour. I'd rather get an entire evening or maybe even overnight with a cute, drug-free college girl for 2-300.

    I haven't been active lately but I'd love to see the Philly sugar forum become active, so I'll post some intel there if I can find any girls who are still active.

  13. #1177
    I reached out to Savannah yesterday morning and she sent me a couple of photos of what I requested and donation requests the same that were stated in email. One of the photos she sent me there was Paula I believe and some guy there also in the photo. Not sure if these 2 have a handler or not but seeing a guy in the photo kinda bugs me a little. Anyway after I received the photos I asked her a few questions and never got another response the rest of the day. Savannah is hot and I still want to see her. I'll try again today to reach her. Stay safe my friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueJjeeper  [View Original Post]
    Springfield DELCO. 110 QV 150 HHR 220 HR. I tried a couple of times, but she doesn't respond on a timely basis, maybe too busy! But Savannah is hot, and I'll try again.

  14. #1176
    Quote Originally Posted by Timexpired  [View Original Post]
    Did she mention donations, or what area she does her in-call? Thanks.
    Springfield DELCO. 110 QV 150 HHR 220 HR. I tried a couple of times, but she doesn't respond on a timely basis, maybe too busy! But Savannah is hot, and I'll try again.

  15. #1175

    SA review

    Quote Originally Posted by JTerry26  [View Original Post]
    I've been on the paid version for about a week. Maybe I lack game but it's a lot of back and forth that goes nowhere. Likely to cancel before the first month is up. Kind of bullshit. I wonder how many of the women are looking for somethings completely unrealistic or are even just bots. That was a major issue on Ashley Madison.
    2 weeks in to paid version of Seeking Arrangment and I have to say the site is garbage. You get "interest" from all over the world. Despite filling out a form saying you're. "Man" seeking a "woman", some of those women were born with and still have a dick. The rest is pointless chatter or unreasonable expectations like "luxury lifestyle" and "international travel". Better the more transactional provider. Pay. Fuck. Move on.

    Glad I tried it but save your $90. Not worth it.

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