"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**JZLizard** · 08-29-18 13:48

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.

I read this and was like -- seriously? I can count my combined lifelong friends (made during high school, college, or early career) that are still alive on one hand. In contrast, I lost count of how many pussies I've had my cock in a long time ago.

I'd never consider betraying a friend for pussy. Pussy is easy to come by and real friends are not.

**FarFarAway** · 08-29-18 12:23

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.

However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!

Well, I'd just consider the psychology. The same mind that deludes itself that can get / is worth that is the mind that decides it would be a good idea to hook up w / a guy twice her age. Some of this goes w / the territory. If you are toward the transactional end of the spectrum, it's true, this type of girl will take a lot of work you don't have patience for. I am on the other end of the spectrum, don't mind cultivating girls for a while, and like the chase, figuring them out. The girl I am always looking for is the one who is truly interested in the kink of being done by a daddy type, for whatever reason. Adopted, submissive, etc. These girls should be paying me, but I've never found one that would. LOL.

**Madaboutmax** · 08-29-18 12:20

If she is lying, which most are, I agree.

I think some are just naive newbies that have unrealistic expectations boosted by media hype. When they see reality they either become disolutioned and disappear or adjust their expectations.

I've had it work out well a few times after a girl has had her expectations reset, but not the standard.

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.

However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!

**EvilTmp** · 08-29-18 12:02

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:

The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.

Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.

This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.

However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!

**BlueFalcon123** · 08-29-18 11:28

I rejoined SA this month to scope out the newbies starting college. I found a rare gem.

She admits, in her profile, seeking only experience SD. We get to chatting terms and getting to know each other.

I'm short, she's a total virgin and wants to be a woman before college started. Sweet girl, slim and highly intelligent. 18 yr.

Yes I checked ID. Haha!

So, she trusted me and I obliged gentleman. And it was glorious. It was a 3 hour endurance test. But she passed with flying colors. By the 2nd round, we discover standing doggie is her fav.

We are both jumping off SA and we will keep to each other for now.

It's out here bros! Having a ball in the sugar bowl!

**TomDickNHarry** · 08-29-18 11:18

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:

1. How I reply?

I always reply politely that I'm sorry if I offended them and that I am not trying to tell them how much they are worth or what they may need, but only what my budget allows me to offer. I respect if that does not meet their expectations or needs and wish them well on their search.

It doesn't do any good to argue with them. It works best if girls learn reality from others. I've had them come back after a few days or weeks and start up discussions with me again because I was polite and not a creep after they've learned what their options really are.

2. Why do they think I'm cheap?

Some are just naive and believe all the hype put out by SA and on social media about large jackpots for platonic relationships. Others use it is a negotiating ploy to get you to raise your offer. Some may have had big offers that never panned out, but still belief it is their market price. I think very few actually get that on a consistent basis.

3. What do I think is reality with respect to what other SD's provide?

I don't believe there are many SDs that provide $2k per month allowance for very long to the same girl. There are some for sure, but they are either creepy, weird or getting the cream of the crop (which the girl you showed clearly is not).

I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. I also think there are some genuinely big spenders that get the cream of the crop, but they are rarely satisfied with one girl for long.

The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.

Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.

Masterpiece of a post. This is the money shot: "I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking. ".

There are generally two broad groups I've found that will deliver some major cheese, not ongoing but for a meet or two, and I'm not even talking a grand I'm talking half a grand for a meet. The first is the guys that prey on the newbies, in order to be the first to get a new girl who shows up on the site. There are definitely a few guys in my market who specialize in this, and clearly unless the girl knocks their socks off they move on to the next newbie and if she's great I suspect they keep seeing her but walk her down. The other is the out of towner type or newbie on our end type, who will drop 4 or 5 one night on them after dinner and drinks--again it's not ongoing but if they meet someone like this early on it spoils them and they think it's the norm.

It can also work in reverse for the newbies BTW, I've heard multiple stories of them getting ripped off. There is at least one person in my market who tries to meet 18-20 newbies on their very first day on the site, particularly the naive, shy, reserved type, who are uncertain how it's supposed to work and hesitant to ask for anything, where they just have a general expectation they will be rewarded. He FC's them and then just says goodbye without providing a penny. So it can go both ways for them early on.

But I can promise you guys ponying up even 2 k a month for one girl on an ongoing basis (more than a month or two) are the equivalent of a black swan. It exists but is exceedingly rare and they could talk to 1000 guys on there w / o finding it. And when one of these girls tells you they had found it, they were likely either just led to believe by the site's marketing that it does, or they're lying. For example, have you ever met a girl on the site who admitted she's done this before and said she had this great arrangement but "the guy moved"? If I've heard it once I've heard it 1 k times. Apparently every single long term, super generous, reliable, wonderful daddy eventually moves out of town. Every single one LOL.

**Madaboutmax** · 08-29-18 09:56

This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:

1. How I reply?

I always reply politely that I'm sorry if I offended them and that I am not trying to tell them how much they are worth or what they may need, but only what my budget allows me to offer. I respect if that does not meet their expectations or needs and wish them well on their search.

It doesn't do any good to argue with them. It works best if girls learn reality from others. I've had them come back after a few days or weeks and start up discussions with me again because I was polite and not a creep after they've learned what their options really are.

2. Why do they think I'm cheap?

Some are just naive and believe all the hype put out by SA and on social media about large jackpots for platonic relationships. Others use it is a negotiating ploy to get you to raise your offer. Some may have had big offers that never panned out, but still belief it is their market price. I think very few actually get that on a consistent basis.

3. What do I think is reality with respect to what other SD's provide?

I don't believe there are many SDs that provide $2k per month allowance for very long to the same girl. There are some for sure, but they are either creepy, weird or getting the cream of the crop (which the girl you showed clearly is not).

I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. I also think there are some genuinely big spenders that get the cream of the crop, but they are rarely satisfied with one girl for long.

The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.

Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.

Originally Posted by EasyeOne [View Original Post]

Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520...e-30a2d98bbdc7

**EvilTmp** · 08-29-18 09:25

Don't you know that all the girls get thousands just to talk to guys (no sex)? Also, every girl is unique and an original snowflake. She's better than all the other girls.

If you hand control of your wallet to a bland 18 year old You deserve whatever happens after that. She's obviously trolling for a whale of a sucker that will believe whatever nonsense she can dream up. Only you can decide if you're that sucker or not.

So to answer your original question nobody, not a single person, is paying 2 k a date. Tell her she's a terrible liar and leave at that.

P.S. just looked at her profile. Sweet jesus, she's a 3/10 at best (ugly face, meh body) and for an 18 yo she's very much below average. So according to her, what are the hot girls getting? A bazillion and a half dollars?

Originally Posted by EasyeOne [View Original Post]

Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520...e-30a2d98bbdc7

**EasyeOne** · 08-28-18 23:54

Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520...e-30a2d98bbdc7

**Tidad** · 08-28-18 22:35

Originally Posted by LoveSmallPerky [View Original Post]

It does sound like she is interested but go slow. Ask her what she is thinking about for the mall and try some vague personal questions, word them as a curious friend that can also be taken as an interested guy. You can gauge it on how she responds, be ready to explain that your just curious and want to help her succeed / be careful if she seems a bit flustered. If she is interested, she may open up to you and you can go from there. As many younger women say, don't be creepy. Showing an interest can go well but it can be a bit difficult without crossing the line before she is ready.

Nah,

As I was telling someone else, best case for me is she starts bringing her college girlfriends to my lake house to use the boat; drinks flowing, goodtimes being had. Hopefully one or two of them don't object to a cock 20 years their senior. And hopefully they have a good time and tell their friends.

**3Putt** · 08-28-18 18:47

Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]

Seems like the mobile app (not the site) still lets you do a single month of premium at a time without auto-renew.

Its easy to cancel just go to settings and switch to do not renew. When your months its up.

**LoveSmallPerky** · 08-28-18 13:28

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.

It does sound like she is interested but go slow. Ask her what she is thinking about for the mall and try some vague personal questions, word them as a curious friend that can also be taken as an interested guy. You can gauge it on how she responds, be ready to explain that your just curious and want to help her succeed / be careful if she seems a bit flustered. If she is interested, she may open up to you and you can go from there. As many younger women say, don't be creepy. Showing an interest can go well but it can be a bit difficult without crossing the line before she is ready.

**LoveSmallPerky** · 08-28-18 13:04

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

Anybody tried cancelling Seeking's auto renew yet? I had a devil of a time with the old SD4 Me site trying to cancel that a few years back. That place sucked big time. I am almost to the point of not bothering with Seeking anymore. The new changes they keep doing makes it less worthwhile with all the GPS and Platonic.

These are the directions that SA gave me in reply to my inquiry about it.

To cancel your auto-renewing subscription:

1. Navigate to your Settings page by clicking on your username in the top right corner then choosing Settings from the drop-down menu that appears.

2. You will see the Payments section at the bottom left of the settings list. Here you can find the Cancel Auto-Renew option.

**Ernest Ll** · 08-28-18 10:17

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.

But they do pass her on to anonymous ***** mongers on message boards. Deets, man, deets!

**Tidad** · 08-28-18 08:13

My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.